Techland's incompetence ruined my ENTIRE game 60h in - truly incompetent developers

[shiftygemini]

Got to the Harkon fight - didn't want to kill him - just kept defending trying to find a trigger or something to NOT kill him. He ends up dying to my triggered weapon buff on defending?!?!?! NO WAY TO ROLL BACK THE INSTANT SAVE. Almost at 70 hours in. I am not replaying the entire game and redoing the entire main story due to Techland's incompetence. I was going to buy all the DLC - now, i'm selling the game and walking away.

[Fraktal]

Are you able to NOT kill him?

Oh and spoilers.

[Shoany]

Did you...see what happens right after? Like, literally 2 minutes after?

[Malthar]

keep going? he only dies if you make the wrong choice in dialogue

[Zorpen]

It is scripted event. If you leave him to die at the begining, then you are forced to kill him later on. If you helped him at the begining then later on in the church you will "kill" him, but when you try to leave the church, cutscene will launch when he is barely, but alive, and Lawan will come and try to kill him for good. You then can decide if you let her do that, or talk her out of her revenge path.

[shiftygemini]

I tried leaving the church, he's just dead. I chose to save him at his house and i chose the "i don't want to fight you" options. There is no cut scene, no follow on, none of the things described above.

[Fraktal]

Harkon is a snake. Why try to save him.

[Zorpen]

İlk olarak The Orange and Blue Ninja tarafından gönderildi:

Harkon is a snake. Why try to save him.

Don't kill him and you will learn that he is not so much of a snake ;)

[shiftygemini]

It's fine, i'm just going to use a mod to modify my save file. I guess i'll just have to forgo the rest of my achievements to fix Techland's incompetence. They're not getting any more of my money now though. Yeah i confirmed, i made the right choices so he shouldn't have died. I don't know if it's a bug or glitch or what, but to have a major choice in the game break like that? Without a way to reload a previous save? That's some CONSOLE level stupidity.

[Skillet981]

Hey Shiffty.

Spoiler Alert

After the Water Tower you meet up with Hakon before going to the central loop.
When you arrive, you'll suddenly be under attack at the same time you learn about Hakon's dirty little secret. Aiden will then have to make a choice about how he feels about Hakon and how you deal with the sudden ambush.

Help Hakon with his wound

Beyond the potential to be very mad at Hakon, this choice has more far-reaching implications than you'd expect. Both choices will end up with you leaving Hakon to forge on alone, but you'll either depart on so-so terms or really bad terms.
Helping Hakon with his wound will earn his gratitude, even if Aiden makes it clear he's done teaming up. Hakon will give you some additional tips and info about the sniper you're facing, as well as some additional tips.

Leaving Hakon to his fate

Leaving Hakon to his fate will put a huge dent in your relationship, after everything you've done together, and you won't bother to help him at all.
Regardless of your choice, you'll meet Hakon again much later in the story, when he's back to working for the Renegades. If you were nice to him previously, you can convince him not to fight with you, but if you left him to die, he'll try to kill you and all conversations will fall on deaf ears.

The true importance of this comes at the end of the game, as you'll need to make a choice whether to save someone from blowing up at the cost of the city, or let them sacrifice themselves. If Hakon still lives, he'll rescue the person for you and they'll both survive - as will the city. It's also worth noting that you're forced to meet Hakon later in the story if you help Frank with the GNC Tower, but if you help Jean instead, you'll get a side quest where Hakon shows up. If you skip the side quest, you'll only see him at the very end of the game, and he'll forgive you for abandoning him, which means he'll help with the last minute rescue.

It not techland incompetence

It was the design of the game.

The choices you make will have an impact on the end of game.

[offline]

İlk olarak The Orange and Blue Ninja tarafından gönderildi:

Harkon is a snake. Why try to save him.

SPOILERS:
Saving him can give you the best possible ending in the game

[shiftygemini]

İlk olarak Skillet981 tarafından gönderildi:

Hey Shiffty.

Spoiler Alert

After the Water Tower you meet up with Hakon before going to the central loop.
When you arrive, you'll suddenly be under attack at the same time you learn about Hakon's dirty little secret. Aiden will then have to make a choice about how he feels about Hakon and how you deal with the sudden ambush.

Help Hakon with his wound

Beyond the potential to be very mad at Hakon, this choice has more far-reaching implications than you'd expect. Both choices will end up with you leaving Hakon to forge on alone, but you'll either depart on so-so terms or really bad terms.
Helping Hakon with his wound will earn his gratitude, even if Aiden makes it clear he's done teaming up. Hakon will give you some additional tips and info about the sniper you're facing, as well as some additional tips.

Leaving Hakon to his fate

Leaving Hakon to his fate will put a huge dent in your relationship, after everything you've done together, and you won't bother to help him at all.
Regardless of your choice, you'll meet Hakon again much later in the story, when he's back to working for the Renegades. If you were nice to him previously, you can convince him not to fight with you, but if you left him to die, he'll try to kill you and all conversations will fall on deaf ears.

The true importance of this comes at the end of the game, as you'll need to make a choice whether to save someone from blowing up at the cost of the city, or let them sacrifice themselves. If Hakon still lives, he'll rescue the person for you and they'll both survive - as will the city. It's also worth noting that you're forced to meet Hakon later in the story if you help Frank with the GNC Tower, but if you help Jean instead, you'll get a side quest where Hakon shows up. If you skip the side quest, you'll only see him at the very end of the game, and he'll forgive you for abandoning him, which means he'll help with the last minute rescue.

It not techland incompetence

It was the design of the game.

The choices you make will have an impact on the end of game.

Nice try, but leave your sword and shield by the door. I followed EVERY decision to the letter to NOT kill Harkon. PSA: If your weapon effects kill Harkon, not only does he die - but the quest doesn't finish. There was no follow on, the quest can't be completed, and it's now stuck on fighting him. BUT, there is no Harkon to fight now. Tried restarting the game, but no fix. So before you go soft core yelling "DEBOOOOOOONKED!!" Get a little more info.

[Skillet981]

I am just doing research. You are correct I was in the wrong choice part.

I dug a little more and found this.

Nightrunner and Deals With the Devil Major Choices

Here a link: Hopefully this helps

https://www.ign.com/wikis/dying-light-2/Story_Choices_and_Consequences_Guide#Nightrunner_and_Deals_With_the_Devil_Major_Choices_-_Hakon.27s_Fate_.28Again.29