I appreciate new content BUT

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Wouldn't it make more sense to put more resources towards fulfilling the promises for people who bought the ultimate edition? People were upset about the lack of firearms two years ago when the game first came out, those people either got over it or stopped whining about it on the forums, not to mention the fact the story initially accounted for why firearms aren't around. I did see them reply to someone that they will make firearms make sense within the lore which is fine and I'm happy to see a new combat element added to the game, but I am beyond confused why they think the best practice is to PRIORITIZE these free updates. I would assume these updates are taking a fair amount of resources causing DLC 2 to be constantly delayed (not to mention the fact that the Tower Raid/Nightmare mode update ALSO GOT DELAYED). Don't construe this as a hate thread about free content, that's not the case, I'm simply pointing out that the game has been out for over TWO YEARS now and the first DLC dropped within the first 6 months, they have yet to even announce what DLC 2 will be, yet we have this roadmap for all these new free updates; guns, tower raid, etc.
It also doesn't help an already fractured community over the addition of micro-transactions (moreover the addition of a premium currency store) for them to have failed to fulfill the promises of the ultimate edition in a timely manner.
In ending I would say they need to fulfill the promises for ultimate edition customers, stop announcing all this new content when they clearly are not able to meet timely deadlines.

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I also just saw, they are now making DLC 1 (Bloody Ties) FREE with this next update, so why the **** are they actively telling us who bought the ultimate edition 2 years ago that we wasted our money? We really should've just bought the standard edition instead huh? I think it's hilarious that they made this big push to get the first game over 95% positive reviews on Steam only for them to actively **** on their customers for the 2nd game.

[Carnifex]

This game is like dark souls 2. It's fine for what it is but holy moly does is look like a complete turd compared to what they did with the first game. Absolutely not worth the asking prize.

I stopped playing this game sometime before bloody ties dropped because this game is just so much worse in a lot of aspects. And when i came back like a week ago, i was greeted with alot of patch and microtransactions posts. And them giving us stuff that was already in the first game and act like its something new is insane.
It's like they're trying the CP2077 approach to "fix" the game before releasing something major.

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Originally posted by Carnifex:

This game is like dark souls 2. It's fine for what it is but holy moly does is look like a complete turd compared to what they did with the first game. Absolutely not worth the asking prize.

I stopped playing this game sometime before bloody ties dropped because this game is just so much worse in a lot of aspects. And when i came back like a week ago, i was greeted with alot of patch and microtransactions posts. And them giving us stuff that was already in the first game and act like its something new is insane.
It's like they're trying the CP2077 approach to "fix" the game before releasing something major.

At this point with the dodgy answers surrounding this second DLC, I can only hope it's at least on the same scale as The Following was for the first game, however The Following came out only a year after the main game released, so I'm still gonna fall back on my initial standpoint, wtf is Techland doing? Why focus so heavily on content that wasn't promised 2 years? But I spent my money on the game 2 years ago and have over 150 hours so I'm locked in for the ride.

[SunEarthMewsic]

I don't really understand your post.

So basically, we are getting a ton of new content all the time, but the specific content that has a price tag on it bothers you the most?

You are also bothered by content that is getting delayed, even though other content is being released in its place?

So, you're not bothered by the endless amount of content that seems to be coming out, but specific content that is either paid or that you have been expecting for a long time?

I'll be honest with you. 99% of people do not care about when paid dlc arrives. They only care that a game constantly gets updated. If DLC 2 never arrives but we get other free updates that end up being better then it, I'm not complaining.

I do not even care about bloody ties. There is so much content in the base game that dlc 1 might as well not even exist to me.

Originally posted by you:

People were upset about the lack of firearms two years ago when the game first came out, those people either got over it or stopped whining about it on the forums

I always wanted firearms in dying light 2. I never got over it. There was just no point in creating or interacting with daily threads. Now that it's coming out, those people are now talking about it again.

No idea where you got the assumption that everyone stopped caring. Because plenty of them were waiting until it was officially mentioned again?

[Carnifex]

Originally posted by SunEarthMewsic:

I don't really understand your post.

So basically, we are getting a ton of new content all the time, but the specific content that has a price tag on it bothers you the most?

You are also bothered by content that is getting delayed, even though other content is being released in its place?

So, you're not bothered by the endless amount of content that seems to be coming out, but specific content that is either paid or that you have been expecting for a long time?

I'll be honest with you. 99% of people do not care about when paid dlc arrives. They only care that a game constantly gets updated. If DLC 2 never arrives but we get other free updates that end up being better then it, I'm not complaining.

I do not even care about bloody ties. There is so much content in the base game that dlc 1 might as well not even exist to me.

Originally posted by you:

People were upset about the lack of firearms two years ago when the game first came out, those people either got over it or stopped whining about it on the forums

I always wanted firearms in dying light 2. I never got over it. There was just no point in creating or interacting with daily threads. Now that it's coming out, those people are now talking about it again.

No idea where you got the assumption that everyone stopped caring. Because plenty of them were waiting until it was officially mentioned again?

If you don't understand, then you shouldn't join the discussion.

Free content is whatever. Since its free, it lacks impact. Lacks anything actually new. Most of these updates we've been getting are just fixes that should've been in the game from the start. While the "new content" is just npcs that gives us "chores" to do while playing the game.

Being angry/disappointed when paid content haven't been talked about for forever or releasing crap dlc like bloody ties is justified. I'll give you a clue to why: paid dlc.

99% huh? Surely you're not basing that solely on your own bias, are you?

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Originally posted by SunEarthMewsic:

I don't really understand your post.

So basically, we are getting a ton of new content all the time, but the specific content that has a price tag on it bothers you the most?

You are also bothered by content that is getting delayed, even though other content is being released in its place?

So, you're not bothered by the endless amount of content that seems to be coming out, but specific content that is either paid or that you have been expecting for a long time?

I'll be honest with you. 99% of people do not care about when paid dlc arrives. They only care that a game constantly gets updated. If DLC 2 never arrives but we get other free updates that end up being better then it, I'm not complaining.

I do not even care about bloody ties. There is so much content in the base game that dlc 1 might as well not even exist to me.

Originally posted by you:

People were upset about the lack of firearms two years ago when the game first came out, those people either got over it or stopped whining about it on the forums

I always wanted firearms in dying light 2. I never got over it. There was just no point in creating or interacting with daily threads. Now that it's coming out, those people are now talking about it again.

No idea where you got the assumption that everyone stopped caring. Because plenty of them were waiting until it was officially mentioned again?

I'll elaborate more then. I and many other people PAID $90 TWO YEARS AGO with the expectation to receive two story DLC's, when compared to the first game all main DLC was released within just over a year of the game being out (and none of it was made free until EIGHT YEARS LATER!!!!) but now here we are, I and many other people paid $90 at release and still have not received the promised mystical DLC 2 and instead have gotten some much needed QOL updates (this is good I am happy about this), a PREMIUM CURRENCY STORE (this is not a + to the game and is the reason it is sitting below 80% positive on steam), and are now actively being told that we wasted our money by Techland because DLC 1 (which is indeed a throwaway DLC that isn't worth money anyway, but neither was Cuisine and Cargo and that wasn't made free in the same way Bloody Ties is ever.)
So to summarize, they have failed to provide any true quality DLC in the past 2 years, have created a garbage and failed live service model, and are now ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on their original ultimate edition customers more so than they have before. Honestly I wish I could say it can't get worse from here for Techland or this game, but I know it definitely will.

[XeRnUno]

If you're running a business and don't get your products done, something is wrong.
TL has problems, and I assume they are HUGE.
Things like heavy bugs in the backend engine of the game. DL2 is like the most unstable game I ever played. And it's getting worser with every "Update".
Don't get me started with Communtiy Ideas comming from 20 hours veterans.

REAL new content in over two years? BT, that's it.
The big DLC2 that changes everything ...when will it come out...after 3 or 4 years?

Well, I don't complain, lot's of other games out there to play and can't say I didn't enjoyed DL2 so far.

[BimboGooch]

You can do both at once. I paid for the what ever blah blah blah edition, and id rather see content consistently then bum rushing an expansion with in two years. Id rather have them not ♥♥♥♥ up an expansion cuz you want it out sooner.

If they where not already working on the content you paid for already, we'd be getting smaller stuff WAY more often.

[Purger Of Souls]

Originally posted by SunEarthMewsic:

I don't really understand your post.

So basically, we are getting a ton of new content all the time, but the specific content that has a price tag on it bothers you the most?

You are also bothered by content that is getting delayed, even though other content is being released in its place?

So, you're not bothered by the endless amount of content that seems to be coming out, but specific content that is either paid or that you have been expecting for a long time?

I'll be honest with you. 99% of people do not care about when paid dlc arrives. They only care that a game constantly gets updated. If DLC 2 never arrives but we get other free updates that end up being better then it, I'm not complaining.

I do not even care about bloody ties. There is so much content in the base game that dlc 1 might as well not even exist to me.

Originally posted by you:

People were upset about the lack of firearms two years ago when the game first came out, those people either got over it or stopped whining about it on the forums

I always wanted firearms in dying light 2. I never got over it. There was just no point in creating or interacting with daily threads. Now that it's coming out, those people are now talking about it again.

No idea where you got the assumption that everyone stopped caring. Because plenty of them were waiting until it was officially mentioned again?

You seem a bit soft in the head.

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Originally posted by BimboGooch:

You can do both at once. I paid for the what ever blah blah blah edition, and id rather see content consistently then bum rushing an expansion with in two years. Id rather have them not ♥♥♥♥ up an expansion cuz you want it out sooner.

If they where not already working on the content you paid for already, we'd be getting smaller stuff WAY more often.

The issue is their timeline when compared to the first game, Dying Light 2 was a full release game, and as such it shouldn't be an unrealistic expectation for them to fulfill their promises within a timely manner. No other full release game has sold a season pass and not put out the content promised for 2 whole years, that is a practice only understandable with early access games that have yet to release their finished product. More free content is good and all, but not when it is at the cost of constant delays to a promise they made 2 years ago.

[Pyronetic]

Hot Take: Guns ruined the first game making it way to easy to do anything and guns will ruin this one even more so.

it's astounding that I came back and did and entire playthrough 2 years after launch and barely noticed much difference from 2 years of free "QOL Updates" Stores still suck, melee combat is still boring, but it looks nicer I guess? weapons don't become useless which is cool i guess but..that never mattered until "End game" anyway and by then you'd get like 20 artifact weapons so it didn't matter.
I wanted to come back and have more content to play after 2 years, instead it was bloody ties and... special infected behind a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ daily play system.

I still love the game both this one and the first. But 2 years and this little was done with it is astounding to me, and disappointing as someone who bought ultimate edition.

[Zaris]

Imho Techland suffers the same problem like CDPR, it's a mid-covid game with some other problems on top of it (fired writer, removed his content because of false sex rape accusations or whatever it was this time). That's why it is a rushed game. They needed the last 2 years just for major bug fixing and reworking mechanics that they are on the same niveau like DL1 again like reworked nights, physics, gore. CDPR also needed 2 years full of reworking and bug fixing before the addon was launched.

Originally posted by Pyronetic:

Hot Take: Guns ruined the first game making it way to easy to do anything and guns will ruin this one even more so.

More like cold take: They removed guns but allowed bow (slow) and a auto crossbow (5 shots in a row) which could easily remove any threats, even bigger infected could be cheese killed during the campaign.

[RBunFoX]

Techland learned in DL that listening to the community is essential to make a better game, being able to adapt it to what users want is essential to improve it and add new and free things that benefit us.

This is why the ideas of the community are so important, at this moment they have priority in firearms, something that no one gave up after a while, but they were in the community ideas section and that made people stop ask.
The VNC tower raids seem to be much larger than expected, in addition to the nightmare mode that will surely be included along with the tower raids.

After this, Tymon said that they would focus on the story DLC2, which at the moment is still a priority, but first they are going with the roadmap since they have little left to finish it.

If you ask me, yes, these community updates are important, because they are improving the game a lot, but I am also sure that they will implement new ideas and delay content so that it is much better than what was mainly planned.

[SunEarthMewsic]

Originally posted by Carnifex:

If you don't understand, then you shouldn't join the discussion.

I don't leave discussions just because another random forum user like me told me to.

I am a paying customer just like you who is also waiting for dlc 2.

If I don't understand, that means I have a different point of view on the matter. If you don't like it, explain why I'm wrong. If I agree, I shut up. If I don't agree, I ask more questions.

That's typically how a discussion forum works.

I'll join you in complaining if techland did not release anything else while we waited for bloody ties and dlc 2. The problem I'm facing is they did.

Am I bothered that dlc 2 has not been released yet? No. Clearly the person who created this thread is. I jumped into the thread and offered my point of view because I'm confused on what they were actually angry about.

Clearly no one is angry about free content that they don't have to pay for.

[Grubbs008]

Tip, don't buy anything but the base game, wait for it all to be free, cause it should be at this point.