Why is performance so terrible?

[Spartles]

I have an RTX 2060, ryzen 7 2700, 32gigs of ram and have it installed on an SSD.
While I can manage 90+fps on medium settings, the sheer amount of lag and stuttering makes me feel nauseous, gives me eye-strain and a headache.

I've tried so many options to make it render more smoothly, but the game seem to be so poorly optimized that none of this seems to matter.
In some cases I actually get worse performance when putting it on low, and with Med textures I get a constant flickering across most terrain and buildings.

What is wrong with this game's performance?

*Update*
I apparently had to *INCREASE* my graphic settings, not lower them, in order to achieve a stable performance.
Not very intuitive, nor optimized for the low-end settings.
Discussion closed.

*second update* turned the game on today, and it was back to stuttering as bad as before.
Noticed it was the worst inside dark areas.
I assumed this was due to light and shadow options, so I lowered them.
Zero change.
No real idea what tf is wrong with this game's performance.
Seems a lot of people are having the same issue even on better hardware than mine after the new update.
Many assume it is due to Denuvo DRM, which would make sense.
What a pain in the a$$

[Spartles]

algypan の投稿を引用：

TrueSpartan の投稿を引用：

I have tried DLSS on performance setting, it brings me up to 120+fps but still suffers from all the lag and stuttering.
I've never had my pc run a game this poorly before.
It's such a poorly optimized game from all I can tell.

I know this is probably really obvious for you and I apologise if I'm teaching you to suck eggs, but have you tried installing it to an SSD or faster drive? I had crazy stutters and since swapping it onto a SSD, I don't get it anymore.

If you read my original post, I clearly stated it was installed on an SSD.
Still having issues regardless.

[Spartles]

massive の投稿を引用：

The game doesn’t feature poor optimization, quite the opposite. It’s a demanding game and you’re playing on a very tight budget computer, whadya expect? 4K/60??

Are you talking to me? My pc is not a "tight budget" pc... I paid over $2000 for it. It has quality parts in it that are running great.
Want a list?
ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 2060 OC 6GB
Ryzen 2700 Overclocked to 4.1GHz across all cores
Noctua NH-D15 cpu cooler
ASRock Taichi X470 mobo
32GB of G.Skill Trident Z ram
and the game is installed on a 1TB SSD stuffed inside a Thermaltake View 71 TG case.
Nothing "tight budget" about it.

Normally I can play games at high-max settings at 100+fps in 1080P, I don't play in 4k (I don't own a 4k monitor)
I play Dying Light 2 at medium-high settings, at around 90-120 fps, but the amount of stuttering and lag that occurs legitimately hurts my eyes, and I can play a ton of VR without eye-strain, not to mention the incredible amount of flickering across textures I get after running the game for like 30mins to an hour.
These issues literally only occur with this game, no others in my library.
So, it seems very clear to me, that the game has piss-poor optimization currently.

[A TIN OF JAR]

TrueSpartan の投稿を引用：

it seems very clear to me, that the game has piss-poor optimization currently.

Are display drivers up to date? Latest Windows version? Chipset drivers up to date etc?

I'm playing at 1440p but up-scaling to 4k then using FSR 2.0 performance with no ray tracing and ambient occlusion off, all other settings maxed out, the game looks and runs amazing for me and mine isn't even installed on my M.2 drive, its installed on a HDD, my game stutters for about 5-7 seconds after the map loads in but i think its just the textures loading, after that its buttery smooth.

RX 6750 XT Red Devil, Ryzen 5 5600X & 16GB DDR4 3600MHz.

[landmass]

TrueSpartan の投稿を引用：

massive の投稿を引用：

The game doesn’t feature poor optimization, quite the opposite. It’s a demanding game and you’re playing on a very tight budget computer, whadya expect? 4K/60??

Are you talking to me? My pc is not a "tight budget" pc... I paid over $2000 for it. It has quality parts in it that are running great.

Ouch.. must have been built during the huge supply issue. Not trying to insult but for $2000 you should be able to get a 3080/5900X combo fairly easily; not what you posted. Not trying to insult just don’t believe you
CPU - $150
GPU - $250
Cooler - $100
Mobo - $150
RAM - $125
SSD - $100
Case - $200

Just over $1000 and that’s not even utilizing sales or good shopping habits…

[Spartles]

massive の投稿を引用：

TrueSpartan の投稿を引用：

Are you talking to me? My pc is not a "tight budget" pc... I paid over $2000 for it. It has quality parts in it that are running great.

Ouch.. must have been built during the huge supply issue. Not trying to insult but for $2000 you should be able to get a 3080/5900X combo fairly easily; not what you posted. Not trying to insult just don’t believe you
CPU - $150
GPU - $250
Cooler - $100
Mobo - $150
RAM - $125
SSD - $100
Case - $200

Just over $1000 and that’s not even utilizing sales or good shopping habits…

My rig is 3 years old. I didn't buy it yesterday. I'm also Canadian, not American.

[Spartles]

A TIN OF JAR の投稿を引用：

TrueSpartan の投稿を引用：

it seems very clear to me, that the game has piss-poor optimization currently.

Are display drivers up to date? Latest Windows version? Chipset drivers up to date etc?

I'm playing at 1440p but up-scaling to 4k then using FSR 2.0 performance with no ray tracing and ambient occlusion off, all other settings maxed out, the game looks and runs amazing for me and mine isn't even installed on my M.2 drive, its installed on a HDD, my game stutters for about 5-7 seconds after the map loads in but i think its just the textures loading, after that its buttery smooth.

RX 6750 XT Red Devil, Ryzen 5 5600X & 16GB DDR4 3600MHz.

yes all my hardware and software is up to date.

[landmass]

TrueSpartan の投稿を引用：

massive の投稿を引用：

Ouch.. must have been built during the huge supply issue. Not trying to insult but for $2000 you should be able to get a 3080/5900X combo fairly easily; not what you posted. Not trying to insult just don’t believe you
CPU - $150
GPU - $250
Cooler - $100
Mobo - $150
RAM - $125
SSD - $100
Case - $200

Just over $1000 and that’s not even utilizing sales or good shopping habits…

My rig is 3 years old. I didn't buy it yesterday. I'm also Canadian, not American.

Right, I’m not trying to insult you, like you said it’s a very capable rig at 1080p (from 3 years ago) and handles some awesome games… it is a fairly budget rig though, and to complain about performance in one of the newest, most graphically demanding games isn’t quite fair.

It doesn’t scream optimization issue…

[Spartles]

massive の投稿を引用：

TrueSpartan の投稿を引用：

My rig is 3 years old. I didn't buy it yesterday. I'm also Canadian, not American.

Right, I’m not trying to insult you, like you said it’s a very capable rig at 1080p (from 3 years ago) and handles some awesome games… it is a fairly budget rig though, and to complain about performance in one of the newest, most graphically demanding games isn’t quite fair.

It doesn’t scream optimization issue…

It's still not a tight budget rig.
A budget rig is like a $500 rig with a 2-4GB vid card and a quad core.
My rig handles every other game better, Dying Light 2 is the only game giving me issues, *even when I run it at lower settings, if you've been paying any attention*
I run VR games at high settings with no issues.
I simply think you have no idea what you're talking about.
Not meant as an insult, just stating an observation based on your remarks and the data given to me.

Dying Light 2 isn't more advanced than any other modern game on the market right now, the min specs are a 4GB vid card, a 4-core cpu and 8GB of ram.
For comparison, I run Half-Life Alyx at full settings in VR with 90fps and smooth video and the min specs for that game are a 6GB video card, a 6-core cpu, and 12GB of ram.
So, Dying Light 2 has poor optimization by direct comparison.
Make sense yet?

[Spartles]

I believe I have finally fixed my issue.
Counter-intuitively I had to *raise* my settings up to high across the board except fog quality, and use DLSS Ultra Quality at 50 sharpness and I've nullified most of the flickering and lag stutters. Still a few occaisionally here and there, but far less than I was experiencing.
Now I run at a relatively stable 90+fps.

I had so much trouble because I kept lowering my settings to get better performance (the typical response to poor-performance in a game), which seemed to hinder the performance instead of make it better (No clue what is going on there beyond poor low-end optimization).

[landmass]

Not going to get into a pissing match, continue thinking what you will and take care.

[algypan]

TrueSpartan の投稿を引用：

algypan の投稿を引用：

I know this is probably really obvious for you and I apologise if I'm teaching you to suck eggs, but have you tried installing it to an SSD or faster drive? I had crazy stutters and since swapping it onto a SSD, I don't get it anymore.

If you read my original post, I clearly stated it was installed on an SSD.
Still having issues regardless.

Nice attitude. Good luck.

[A TIN OF JAR]

TrueSpartan の投稿を引用：

I had so much trouble because I kept lowering my settings to get better performance (the typical response to poor-performance in a game), which seemed to hinder the performance instead of make it better (No clue what is going on there beyond poor low-end optimization).

At 1080p lowering settings just puts more work onto the CPU and less onto the GPU, by putting your settings higher you are forcing the GPU to start taking on the workload.

Ill bet if you checked your utilisation before the CPU would have been 100% while the GPU at like 50% utilisation.

Nothing to do with the game optimisation, it because people like yourself don't know how to best get the most from your system.(no disrespect)

[Hanzy the Heretic]

Optimization is OKAY IMHO. Its not great but it's certainly not BAD.
RTX optimization is much better after the latest "community update"/patch. I can almost run RT on my system w/DLSS balanced but I still can't quite get that nice average 60 FPS so it doesn't feel "smooth" enough to me so I run with the RT off.
Currently running a 2080ti, 3800x, 32gb DDR4 3600, plain old SATA SSD for games at 3440x1440 and with RT OFF all other settings maxed, DLSS on quality, DX12 I average ~90FPS.

Like A TIN OF JAR said, that's a very plausible explanation.

You're PC by today's standards is kinda "budget" like the other person said.
~3 years ago, certainly not. Today, yeah kinda is.
All that being said, still a fine rig for 1080p gaming for sure.
Those CAD hardware prices def hurt. About ~2.5 years ago I helped my Canadian friend pick out all the parts for his PC and he has very similar specs to yours except Ryzen 2600 CPU and an AIO cooler for it. His budget was ~$1500 for everything(totally new build, case fans, PSU etc..) and I think we had to stretch to ~$1600 to squeeze in the 2060.
Spent a lot of time hunting around for the best prices on everything to get into that ~$!600 CAD region too.

Glad you got it running well on your system, have fun!

[Psilord]

я сегодня утановил GTX 3090ti так игра начала вылеть((, сделайте что-нить с этим, до патча всё было нормально

[Spartles]

A TIN OF JAR の投稿を引用：

TrueSpartan の投稿を引用：

I had so much trouble because I kept lowering my settings to get better performance (the typical response to poor-performance in a game), which seemed to hinder the performance instead of make it better (No clue what is going on there beyond poor low-end optimization).

At 1080p lowering settings just puts more work onto the CPU and less onto the GPU, by putting your settings higher you are forcing the GPU to start taking on the workload.

Ill bet if you checked your utilisation before the CPU would have been 100% while the GPU at like 50% utilisation.

Nothing to do with the game optimisation, it because people like yourself don't know how to best get the most from your system.(no disrespect)

That makes zero sense whatsoever.
What do you normally do when your system can't run a game well?
You lower the graphic settings to get better performance.
So me lowering the graphics should give me better performance, not worse.
Lowering graphics does not just dump the load to the cpu, no clue where you get that information from.