I don't get why people are so against this game and pre-ordering especially

[Jarby]

Be against it or not it's still the #1 top seller on steam right now, at least where I live and considering techland's reputation I'd say it's well deserved.

And regarding all the people who have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the game early and been able to play there has been very positive feedback from them... But there is still the argument that they are being paid off which is fair but regarding most of them and the way techland has done stuff in the past I'd say it's unlikely and it's better to take it at face value.

And while on pc it seems to be a knockout I understand the console players worries and for them I'd say wait a week if they are uncertain and worried about the performance.

Overall though I'd say if you liked the first and like techland pre-order it if u want and if u wanna wait for reviews wait for them. Either way I hope that people will enjoy the game and if it does well, motivate people to want to give it a shot. But thats just my opinon, LOVE Y'ALL
Edit: For anyone wondering I did buy the deluxe edition :)

[JustKampi]

İlk olarak Ironclad tarafından gönderildi:

I don't get why you never learn. And 2 hours of gameplay for a refund isn't enough time to see if a game is good or not so all you can do is spam those negative reviews which many endup doing everytime....

Only becouse cp2077 was a buggy wreck on launch, doesn't mean every AAA game will be.
Plus, Techland showed way more before premiere than cdpr.

[Nope]

İlk olarak Ironclad tarafından gönderildi:

I don't get why you never learn. And 2 hours of gameplay for a refund isn't enough time to see if a game is good or not so all you can do is spam those negative reviews which many endup doing everytime....

On the other hand you still have 2 week worth of refund if you play under 2h, use that to test your PC, then use the 2 week to read reviews before finalize the purchase
If it's a buggy mess, you can always contact the steam support in person, there you'll have a chance to get refund for passing 2h than with the automated system

[Xordania]

Am I the only one that thought that guns ruined Dying Light 1? They trivialised combat. A dead remnant from Dead Island and that wreck of a series. SO happy to hear that there are no guns.

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Am I the only one that thought that guns ruined Dying Light 1? They trivialised combat. A dead remnant from Dead Island and that wreck of a series. SO happy to hear that there are no guns.

only because the gunplay sucked

but instead of improving it for this one they just decided to flat out remove em

[\Forever Alone/]

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İlk olarak Xordania tarafından gönderildi:

Am I the only one that thought that guns ruined Dying Light 1? They trivialised combat. A dead remnant from Dead Island and that wreck of a series. SO happy to hear that there are no guns.

only because the gunplay sucked

but instead of improving it for this one they just decided to flat out remove em

Personally. I found melee combat in previous game noxious and lack of drive and went for guns fast as possible. While guns does nullify combat I hope this game melee improvements wont turn into worse like poorly done survival game´s survival stats. Smack one zombie´s head with legendary weapon and you need to repeat find new legendary weapons next few hours... Also i found it cool you could threaten humans with guns in last game they reacted toward it. Like when bandits noticed your carrying rifle they were like hell no ran away.

Like i personally hope there is later on some type character improvements where whole weapons break 24/7 become really minimal issue later on. Even more on legendary items.

[PocketYoda]

Pre ordering sends a message to publishers that its ok to send out a sub par product because customers fork over their cash before even seeing a finished product.. That in itself should be illegal.. Its not.

Thats said some small percentage of pre orders are better odds than others. Dying Light 1 was amazing, so in good faith i pre ordered expecting a similar product. If i knew what i know now about Dying Light 2 i probably would not of pre ordered, as DL2 is so far a different game to DL1 i'm not even sure i'll like it.

I hated the durability on melee in the first version and timers drive me away literally from games.. Also the whole Farcry/Division feel is not what i enjoy.

I do have 2 hours or 2 weeks to test it at release though..

[Some Kinda Kobold]

For the people knocking the game itself: Even though DL1 is highly rated and has released new content for 6 years, even putting in an event update 2 WEEKS before release. People are trying to find each and every little thing they can to complain because that's what people do.

- Co-op isn't the same
- It might have lots of bugs
- it doesn't look any different to the first game
- I don't like the Night time mechanic

etc. Without us having our own hold on the game, it's just a lot of pre-release nit-picking.

For those against Pre-order: They're just the ones who've seen game after game build hype and then crash annd burn. Or, they saw 1 title do bad, ignore all titles that did do well and will scream that all new releases are garbage. To be fair,

Cyberpunk 2077 - revealed far too early. Released far too early under pressure.

EA and Activision - unfortunately they've both set a standard for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you shouldn't pre-order these days. I regret buying into BF 2042. But that was my last straw with EA. I'm done. As for Activision, done with them for near a decade.


All in All. From what we've been presented with. Techland are a great team and have done nothing but good for their Community.

[Some Kinda Kobold]

İlk olarak DanteYoda tarafından gönderildi:

Pre ordering sends a message to publishers that its ok to send out a sub par product because customers fork over their cash before even seeing a finished product.. That in itself should be illegal.. Its not.

Thats said some small percentage of pre orders are better odds than others. Dying Light 1 was amazing, so in good faith i pre ordered expecting a similar product. If i knew what i know now about Dying Light 2 i probably would not of pre ordered, as DL2 is so far a different game to DL1 i'm not even sure i'll like it.

I hated the durability on melee in the first version and timers drive me away literally from games.. Also the whole Farcry/Division feel is not what i enjoy.

I do have 2 hours or 2 weeks to test it at release though..

Easy way to fix it would be

"Don't pre-order anything from EA or Activision." 'Most' of the time, Other Publishers are generally alright. Asides Halo's horrible Microtransaction issue, The game itself both MP and SP were solid experiences.

Edit: Actually, Wait till 2023 for Activision. Microsoft's been doing pretty well lately with studios they umbrella. Should do Activision some good.

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İlk olarak Some Kinda Kobold tarafından gönderildi:

Cyberpunk 2077 - revealed far too early. Released far too early under pressure.

same might be said about this one in a few weeks

[PocketYoda]

İlk olarak Some Kinda Kobold tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak DanteYoda tarafından gönderildi:

Pre ordering sends a message to publishers that its ok to send out a sub par product because customers fork over their cash before even seeing a finished product.. That in itself should be illegal.. Its not.

Thats said some small percentage of pre orders are better odds than others. Dying Light 1 was amazing, so in good faith i pre ordered expecting a similar product. If i knew what i know now about Dying Light 2 i probably would not of pre ordered, as DL2 is so far a different game to DL1 i'm not even sure i'll like it.

I hated the durability on melee in the first version and timers drive me away literally from games.. Also the whole Farcry/Division feel is not what i enjoy.

I do have 2 hours or 2 weeks to test it at release though..

Easy way to fix it would be

"Don't pre-order anything from EA or Activision." 'Most' of the time, Other Publishers are generally alright. Asides Halo's horrible Microtransaction issue, The game itself both MP and SP were solid experiences.

Edit: Actually, Wait till 2023 for Activision. Microsoft's been doing pretty well lately with studios they umbrella. Should do Activision some good.

No the easy way is to pick and choose what you personally believe will be a great game.. Even if the rest of the universe hates it and you love it, then its a good purchase.

Never pre order multiplayer games imo, they 99% flop. And look into the game more.. Also Hype is the mind killer... never let yourself get hyped over virtual gaming.

[dead2571]

İlk olarak Some Kinda Kobold tarafından gönderildi:

For the people knocking the game itself: Even though DL1 is highly rated and has released new content for 6 years, even putting in an event update 2 WEEKS before release. People are trying to find each and every little thing they can to complain because that's what people do.

- Co-op isn't the same
- It might have lots of bugs
- it doesn't look any different to the first game
- I don't like the Night time mechanic

etc. Without us having our own hold on the game, it's just a lot of pre-release nit-picking.

For those against Pre-order: They're just the ones who've seen game after game build hype and then crash annd burn. Or, they saw 1 title do bad, ignore all titles that did do well and will scream that all new releases are garbage. To be fair,

Cyberpunk 2077 - revealed far too early. Released far too early under pressure.

EA and Activision - unfortunately they've both set a standard for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you shouldn't pre-order these days. I regret buying into BF 2042. But that was my last straw with EA. I'm done. As for Activision, done with them for near a decade.


All in All. From what we've been presented with. Techland are a great team and have done nothing but good for their Community.

I agree with most of your points except the "Co-op isn't the same" for me that is a reason to make comments about (though not take it to extremes,keep it civilized of course) cause the progression thing should be optional not removed all together.

[Some Kinda Kobold]

İlk olarak dead2571 tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Some Kinda Kobold tarafından gönderildi:

For the people knocking the game itself: Even though DL1 is highly rated and has released new content for 6 years, even putting in an event update 2 WEEKS before release. People are trying to find each and every little thing they can to complain because that's what people do.

- Co-op isn't the same
- It might have lots of bugs
- it doesn't look any different to the first game
- I don't like the Night time mechanic

etc. Without us having our own hold on the game, it's just a lot of pre-release nit-picking.

For those against Pre-order: They're just the ones who've seen game after game build hype and then crash annd burn. Or, they saw 1 title do bad, ignore all titles that did do well and will scream that all new releases are garbage. To be fair,

Cyberpunk 2077 - revealed far too early. Released far too early under pressure.

EA and Activision - unfortunately they've both set a standard for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you shouldn't pre-order these days. I regret buying into BF 2042. But that was my last straw with EA. I'm done. As for Activision, done with them for near a decade.


All in All. From what we've been presented with. Techland are a great team and have done nothing but good for their Community.

I agree with most of your points except the "Co-op isn't the same" for me that is a reason to make comments about (though not take it to extremes,keep it civilized of course) cause the progression thing should be optional not removed all together.

That I will agree with. Making it Optional would be nice. Like in the essence of. Starting the game WITH another player. Like they can choose "You are joining another players session, Would you like to overwrite/make your own game mimic theirs or not." Personally I am okay with the style they're taking. As I or my friends can play in the world the host builds while others can then try their own thing.

[dead2571]

İlk olarak Some Kinda Kobold tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak dead2571 tarafından gönderildi:

I agree with most of your points except the "Co-op isn't the same" for me that is a reason to make comments about (though not take it to extremes,keep it civilized of course) cause the progression thing should be optional not removed all together.

That I will agree with. Making it Optional would be nice. Like in the essence of. Starting the game WITH another player. Like they can choose "You are joining another players session, Would you like to overwrite/make your own game mimic theirs or not." Personally I am okay with the style they're taking. As I or my friends can play in the world the host builds while others can then try their own thing.

Don't get my point wrong. i am fine with it and can understand their point,it isn't going to prevent me from enjoying the game solo or co-op. Its just the only major annoyance I have with the game overall and wish it was optional (Aka player choice like they are advertising for everything else in the game overall lol) but will hopefully (Most likely) enjoy the game anyways despite that.

[Some Kinda Kobold]

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İlk olarak Some Kinda Kobold tarafından gönderildi:

That I will agree with. Making it Optional would be nice. Like in the essence of. Starting the game WITH another player. Like they can choose "You are joining another players session, Would you like to overwrite/make your own game mimic theirs or not." Personally I am okay with the style they're taking. As I or my friends can play in the world the host builds while others can then try their own thing.

Don't get my point wrong. i am fine with it and can understand their point,it isn't going to prevent me from enjoying the game solo or co-op. Its just the only major annoyance I have with the game overall and wish it was optional (Aka player choice like they are advertising for everything else in the game overall lol) but will hopefully (Most likely) enjoy the game anyways despite that.

And I just said I Agree with you. Making it optional of not saving progress and yes to saving progress is a good idea. It'd make everyone happy.

I was just saying from a personal View, I don't mind it done this way.

[Dave from work]

İlk olarak Sanguine tarafından gönderildi:

Be against it or not it's still the #1 top seller on steam right now, at least where I live and considering techland's reputation I'd say it's well deserved.

And regarding all the people who have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the game early and been able to play there has been very positive feedback from them... But there is still the argument that they are being paid off which is fair but regarding most of them and the way techland has done stuff in the past I'd say it's unlikely and it's better to take it at face value.

And while on pc it seems to be a knockout I understand the console players worries and for them I'd say wait a week if they are uncertain and worried about the performance.

Overall though I'd say if you liked the first and like techland pre-order it if u want and if u wanna wait for reviews wait for them. Either way I hope that people will enjoy the game and if it does well, motivate people to want to give it a shot. But thats just my opinon, LOVE Y'ALL :spiffo:
Edit: For anyone wondering I did buy the deluxe edition :)

It's not so much being "against" the company, it's about people getting jaded due to previously bad experiences. (Wich is understandable)

It's more about being against the practice of pre-order sales and the quality of the game being unsure.

You said "considering techland's reputation I'd say it's well deserved "
Wich is the exact same thing people said about Cd-project red when it came to witcher 3 / cyberpunk.
And you might have seen how that played out?

Some people just want to outright hate and have something to argue about.
(You'll see them on every upcoming game)

But personally I would advise people to have some ice in their stomachs and not get carried away with hype and buying something pre-release.

At least if you keep expecations low, you wont get as dissapointed when the game/product is not what was expected, OR you'll be pleasantly surprised that it did.

Pre-ordering in a way sends the message that you don't care if the game is good or not, you'll buy it anyway due to hype/title/loyalty.
And it typically means a company will rush products out to hit the market when "hype" is at an all time high for maximizing sales.

All I'm saying is to keep hype in your pants, and expect less.
At least, not to blindly put trust in brands.