NO PRE-ORDERING

[Gary]

Say it with me, "I will buy Dying Light 2 after it comes out. I WILL NOT PRE-ORDER!"

[Millsxn]

Damn, you really think that will stop anyone? Preording isnt even the damn issue, its all the hype this game will get

[Nope]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ day one and pre-order are no different

And Steam have refund system in place, you lose absolutely nothing for pre-order

[AC Denton]

Originally posted by Nope:

you lose absolutely nothing for pre-order

Except game quality and your dignity.

[fox]

What exactly does that achieve besides missing out on some preorder bonuses?

[NTense]

Originally posted by Millsxn:

Damn, you really think that will stop anyone? Preording isnt even the damn issue, its all the hype this game will get

It's part of the issue. Publishers are ok with games being released unfinished if they can account for a certain number of sales.

[Amane]

Originally posted by Nope:

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ day one and pre-order are no different

And Steam have refund system in place, you lose absolutely nothing for pre-order

There is no difference. But pre-order and day one is different from day 2 or 3 or 4 or 5. Reviews matter, game play matters, art design matters, performance matters. Never pre-order a game. Never. Wait a few days. Don't take into account pre-release reviews because more often than not they are paid for. $60 is a lot for game that will be half price in probably less than a year with all dlc included. Just because steam has a refund system doesn't mean you should spend money as you wish.

[Kogoro]

I plan on pre-ordering it, but it's a little early seeing as it comes out in December.

[Dree]

Originally posted by fox:

What exactly does that achieve besides missing out on some preorder bonuses?

If all gamers (both PC and console) unite against pre-order, then all big AAA publishers can no longer get away by hyping up while actual product given to the consumer (gamers) is low quality broken software that doesn't have anything their marketting team promised.

Cyberpunk 2077 is a good example from last year. CDproject spent $250million for marketting and only fraction of budget for actual gameplay coding, which ended up broken game on launch and took 2 months just to play on consoles. So many people pre-ordered, so their sales number was great nonetheless, which will later be used to convince share holders.

[Caz]

Originally posted by ac_denton:

Originally posted by Nope:

you lose absolutely nothing for pre-order

Except game quality and your dignity.

You can't lose quality by pre-ordering. The game will be the same, pre-order or not.

The only dignity anyone around here is losing are the "waaaaah pre-order bad!" whiners.

Originally posted by Dree:

If all gamers (both PC and console) unite against pre-order

You will never unite enough gamers to have any impact on publishers. Especially not in regards to pre-ordering. Most of us aren't foolish enough to think pre-ordering has any impact on the final product. It will be the same regardless of pre-orders or not.

[NTense]

Originally posted by Caz:

Most of us aren't foolish enough to think pre-ordering has any impact on the final product. It will be the same regardless of pre-orders or not.

You seem to be quite certain of that... do you have a source? It seems to me that early preorders are done for a reason and have some impact on the publisher's influence.

[JesterVae]

This is a long-dead dream and it's time to get with the program. Much as we older gamers pine for the "old days" when games were shipped in working order and bugs were so rare that I can't think of a single game-breaking issue I experienced until...I started playing Early Access games on Steam.

That said, games exist on a long-term development path, with DLC and other small updates being built into the workflow these days. Instead of buying a fully realized, tested, complete game, we're buying a game that will grow well into the future.

Just look at Dying Light for an example. Techland has been adding more and more stuff to it since it was released, and it's been a blast to install it every couple years and see what they've done.

Yeah, Cyberpunk let us all down and No Man's Sky was a huge joke. But now No Man's Sky is THE example of a game that was busted on launch that is now, apparently, amazing. Cyberpunk will fix itself, too. I haven't bought either game, but I will someday. I just rarely buy new games because they're overpriced and I can wait a few years for them to come down in price.

However, Dying Light is one of my favorite games of all time, and Techland has continually impressed me with what they've done with it, so I'm pretty sure I'll pre-order this one. Not because I expect it to be amazing on Day 1, but because I trust that Techland will put as much effort into it as they did with the first game.

Also, it's already #2 in the Top Sellers list on Steam, so clearly people are pre-ordering it in great numbers.

[TheOneButter]

no im pre ordering this game, my money my choices
i preordered

[NTense]

Originally posted by TheOneButter:

no im pre ordering this game, my money my choices

you should definitely preorder this game

[the milk man]

now i'm going to preorder the game just to spite you

[Galactus]

I already learned from Cyberblunder 1982. Hopefully this will end as Dying Light 2 Stay Huamn and not Dead Pixel Stay Light.