Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2

Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2

TheKing Mar 25, 2023 @ 2:29pm
Chris Avellone has been cleared
It looks like Chris Avellone, who was one of the original writers of this game until he was fired for unsubstantiated charges, has now been cleared and a public apology has been issued.
Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2023/03/25/video-game-writer-chris-avellones-accusers-issue-public-statement-retracting-accusations-of-sexual-assault/?sh=1c5290b455d8

Anyway, maybe re hire him so he can get this mess back on track.
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Castyles Mar 25, 2023 @ 3:13pm 
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Best for him to stay away from this whole mess of a project and give the middle finger to those who decided to fire him, before the case was even finished.

I mean, innocent until proven otherwise, right?

Depp did it when they came crawling back to him.
Last edited by Castyles; Mar 25, 2023 @ 3:15pm
Amadeo Mar 25, 2023 @ 6:25pm 
Originally posted by TheKing:
... Chris Avellone ... was one of the original writers of this game until he was fired for unsubstantiated charges.

Chris Avellone worked on the game until his contract ended. He was not fired from the team in 2020 when those women made their initial accusations: "I worked on Bloodlines 2 for almost 2 and a half years, from 2016 to mid-2018, then my contract came to an end. They didn’t use anything I wrote during that time, which was a number of major characters and side missions..." Source[chrisavellone.medium.com]
Amadeo Mar 25, 2023 @ 6:52pm 
Yes, they were, but there is a difference between this and firing an employee based on some unsubstantiated claims.
Blackcrusader6 Mar 25, 2023 @ 10:09pm 
yeah watch out for bias articles

https://www.thefactual.com/blog/forbes-credible-news-source/

but damn didnt know the writer was allegedly accuse of sexual harassment

this article seem interesting
https://gamerant.com/chris-avellone-accuser-allegations-retracted-video-game-industry-return/
Bumbo Mar 26, 2023 @ 1:01am 
Originally posted by Chris Avellone, July 16th 2011:
To fill you in on what I did on the project, since most people think I was booted from it last year (?) along with everyone else. This “news” is attributed to some poorly worded public statements from the usual round of idiots that got passed through a filter held by an idiot and poured into an idiot glass and then passed out to the public and marketed as a refreshing new mineral water that will ultimately pass through your bladder and into your toilet. Thanks for that, idiots. You could have just said, “contract was over.”

To explain my contract: I worked on Bloodlines 2 for almost 2 and a half years, from 2016 to mid-2018, then my contract came to an end. They didn’t use anything I wrote during that time, which was a number of major characters and side missions, check my LinkedIn. This made me sad, but it’s not my choice. The whole experience was like the last five minutes of Barton Fink (not the beach scene, the scene before it, know-it-all), but stretched out over 2 and a half years. Even if I had known all that work was useless, I’d have written anyway, even though its part of your life you don’t get back, so you can’t really dwell on it too much. I’ve been on projects where a LOT more got thrown away… as Bloodlines 2 proved for almost everyone on it in the end, apparently.

https://chrisavellone.medium.com/what-the-♥♥♥♥-happened-to-bloodlines-2-1ad557bf2284

The allegations against Chris Avellone didn't have anything to do with him being removed from the project. It had everything to do with Brian Mitsoda not approving his work so none of it was in the game in the first place so his contract wasn't renewed.
Last edited by Bumbo; Mar 26, 2023 @ 1:58am
Coffee Break Hero Mar 26, 2023 @ 11:10am 
That's actually quite pleasing to hear. I wish justice took less time than mob opinion, but that's an inherent quality so it's an unsolvable problem.
I've personally seen manipulative ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ win a third parties opinion in both situations (false accusation and false denial)
Tldr thank you Justice system
Coffee Break Hero Mar 26, 2023 @ 11:11am 
Originally posted by Bumbo:
Originally posted by Chris Avellone, July 16th 2011:
To fill you in on what I did on the project, since most people think I was booted from it last year (?) along with everyone else. This “news” is attributed to some poorly worded public statements from the usual round of idiots that got passed through a filter held by an idiot and poured into an idiot glass and then passed out to the public and marketed as a refreshing new mineral water that will ultimately pass through your bladder and into your toilet. Thanks for that, idiots. You could have just said, “contract was over.”

To explain my contract: I worked on Bloodlines 2 for almost 2 and a half years, from 2016 to mid-2018, then my contract came to an end. They didn’t use anything I wrote during that time, which was a number of major characters and side missions, check my LinkedIn. This made me sad, but it’s not my choice. The whole experience was like the last five minutes of Barton Fink (not the beach scene, the scene before it, know-it-all), but stretched out over 2 and a half years. Even if I had known all that work was useless, I’d have written anyway, even though its part of your life you don’t get back, so you can’t really dwell on it too much. I’ve been on projects where a LOT more got thrown away… as Bloodlines 2 proved for almost everyone on it in the end, apparently.

https://chrisavellone.medium.com/what-the-♥♥♥♥-happened-to-bloodlines-2-1ad557bf2284

The allegations against Chris Avellone didn't have anything to do with him being removed from the project. It had everything to do with Brian Mitsoda not approving his work so none of it was in the game in the first place so his contract wasn't renewed.
I wonder how much of Brian's work will be in bl2
SmallHatWizardry Mar 28, 2023 @ 5:01am 
he wasn't woke enough to work on this game
Gabriel Angelos Mar 29, 2023 @ 5:02am 
Originally posted by GrandMajora:
Big shock, a man being falsely accused by women in this day and age. ~sarcasm

Its about time they start handing out sentences for false allegations. "It wasn't their intention"...and "They wanted to support women in the industry". So just eliminate the man who is holding a position you dont believe he should have?

I see he is getting a 7 figure payment, not that it removes the taint on his name for many.

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Barrows had previously claimed on Twitter that Avellone was “an abusive, abrasive, conniving sexual predator” who had attempted to sexually assault her after getting her “black out drunk.” Barrows told Kotaku in 2020, “He’s f****** disgusting, but he did not rape me. He assaulted me, 100 percent, but I stopped him.”

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Damn why did people think he was an abuser?
Last edited by Gabriel Angelos; Mar 29, 2023 @ 5:04am
ajxx Mar 29, 2023 @ 11:25am 
will they use his work though
_veleron Mar 29, 2023 @ 11:48am 
Originally posted by ajxx:
will they use his work though
That's a good question, especially as he stopped working on VTMB2 2 years before the accusations and his work back then was never accepted by the team lead to begin with. See https://steamcommunity.com/app/532790/discussions/0/3820781363199248988/?tscn=1680114311#c3820781363199851325
Gesuma Mar 29, 2023 @ 1:15pm 
Just read this from Chris on Bloodlines 2 it is a great read:
https://chrisavellone.medium.com/what-the-♥♥♥♥-happened-to-bloodlines-2-1ad557bf2284
Bumbo Mar 30, 2023 @ 8:40am 
Originally posted by ajxx:
will they use his work though

They never used it to begin with
Coffee Break Hero Mar 30, 2023 @ 9:46am 
Originally posted by Bumbo:
Originally posted by ajxx:
will they use his work though

They never used it to begin with
I would love to see his rejected content. Some tyranny in my bloodlines would be very welcome
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