I just finished Beyond Two Souls and WOAH. It is so much better than this

[My Name Is Mud]

Woah......

Just woah

Is this the difference between quality developers and wannabe hacks?

How is Beyond Two Souls able to deal with strong issues like suicide, abandonment and homelessness without shoe horning in their own political opinions? It must be because they have good writers over there compared to the writers who work for Dontnod.

Also Beyond Two Souls has much much better graphics

[mcramer451]

Well yea - you kinda have to expect the graphics to be much better with a much better budget.

But as far as the story writing goes, i agree

[darkdisciple1313]

I liked Beyond Two Souls, as well as Detroit: Become Human (less so Heavy Rain from the same studio, only because of the horrendous button pressing combinations, even with something as simple as walking). The better stories do have something to do with budget, of course, since they can afford better writers. This isn't always true, though...some top-shelf games have some of the worst writing in the business. The Assassin's Creed games tend to range from just above meh to they-paid-somebody-to-write-this-dreck? quality.

Then there is the steaming pile of expectoration that is Mass Effect: Andromeda, which had a ridiculously-high budget, and yet had writing that seemed to have been plopped down by a team of "woke" twelve-year-old girls with a thesaurus and a Twitter account, who just happened to like sci-fi. It's not as bad as the haters make it out to be, but neither is it Arthur C. Clarke.

[mcramer451]

True - big budget =/= good writing.



Take Star Wars - that line when she stops the hero from saving the day who was going to heroically crash into the massive weapon about to destroy them all:

"We'll win, not by destroying what we hate - but by saving what we love..."

What? What "woke" p.o.s. got that passed into the final script lol? Wasn't that what he was doing? Saving ppl he cared about?

Anyway...





I know they have to keep it linear to push the story along the path they want - but dont give me the choice to not do the heist - then make me do it anyway....

Bah.....

[Bealla Donna]

Same, I finished it about 3 and half weeks ago maybe and it's honestly my second or third favourite game of all time and I absolutely love Jodie' s character, I feel people are too harsh on that game, it's actually not that bad, it was way longer than I thought it was going to be too and the soundtrack is amazing also.
And I'm not afraid to admit I cried like a baby when I saw Aidens last words to Jodie.That game made me a semi fan of Quantic Dream considering I played a bit of heavy rain which was alright for the amount of time i played for but I didn't get to finish it due to techinal issues. Now I'm just waiting for the release of Detroit.



Also, is Quantic Dream and Dontnod really the only major ones to do choice based games out there? I know there's more but it feels hard to look for other good game like those. It's like I come across a choice based game here and there that looks interesting but then it's tagged horror or something and I'm just looking in the realm of action adventure choice based.

[mcramer451]

I use these 3 sites for ideas - its how i found out about B2S...




https://www.gamesradar.com/games-like-life-is-strange/


https://www.techykeeday.com/top-10-games-like-life-is-strange/


https://twinfinite.net/2017/07/10-games-life-strange/14/



I loved the character of jodie - its a shame they already said they're not going to do a sequel

[Metalhen]

But are Quantic Dream games being ported on Steam ? I see a lot of you guys mentionning them left and right ?

Also yeah, thank you Quantic Dream for proving we can have multi-ending AND good graphics (usual favorite excuse of devs to refuse multi-endings and multi-paths in choice-based games haha).

Detroit is a bit more political but not on the level of Life is Strange 2. It's still enjoyable and not really pointing fingers at anyone. Most flame wars I've seen about Detroit is about whether or not we'll be able to create sentient IAs one day. Also, the characters are endearing (and so is the child character).

[Riddler]

I like Beyond Two Souls too, but I rarely hear praise for the writing of David Cage. Many people have a lot of problems with it^^

[Bealla Donna]

Originally posted by Metalhen:

But are Quantic Dream games being ported on Steam ?

I think it's just epic exclusive, for now at least.

[Scorpion242]

Originally posted by Metalhen:

Detroit is a bit more political but not on the level of Life is Strange 2. It's still enjoyable and not really pointing fingers at anyone. Most flame wars I've seen about Detroit is about whether or not we'll be able to create sentient IAs one day. Also, the characters are endearing (and so is the child character).

Think about that, a David Cage game handled politics better than the team that built the original LiS does with LiS2. I would not have believed that a year ago.

I like the quantic dream games, I would not them above LiS1 or BtS though.

[Kibōchen]

Originally posted by Scorpion242:

Originally posted by Metalhen:

Detroit is a bit more political but not on the level of Life is Strange 2. It's still enjoyable and not really pointing fingers at anyone. Most flame wars I've seen about Detroit is about whether or not we'll be able to create sentient IAs one day. Also, the characters are endearing (and so is the child character).

Think about that, a David Cage game handled politics better than the team that built the original LiS does with LiS2. I would not have believed that a year ago.

I like the quantic dream games, I would not them above LiS1 or BtS though.

To be fair, the devs are French so it's not like they know American politics that much lmao

[Drakensson]

Life is Strange and the Quantic Dream games are fine pices of European art, speaks right to the continental patriot inside me. Supermassive Games is a similar developer, if you're looking
for more interactive movie games

[Metalhen]

Being French myself, I can assure you they don't know the first thing about American politics. Here we're only told about Democrats and how cool they are and how everything else is ♥♥♥♥ so yeah... Plus French are awfull with english so they can't read anything about USA's politics and History and will only know what they are told... by dishonest translators more often than not.

Truth be told, no average french artist should ever dabble in politics, especially international politics or from a non-french speaking country unless they have lived there their whole life.

[talemore]

Movie-game. Movies are the superior media because it tells a story. What LIS2 tried to do is ending up in the uncanny valley. It's not entertaining, it bring the question: Are you not entertained.

[Metalhen]

Originally posted by Scorpion242:

Originally posted by Metalhen:

Detroit is a bit more political but not on the level of Life is Strange 2. It's still enjoyable and not really pointing fingers at anyone. Most flame wars I've seen about Detroit is about whether or not we'll be able to create sentient IAs one day. Also, the characters are endearing (and so is the child character).

Think about that, a David Cage game handled politics better than the team that built the original LiS does with LiS2. I would not have believed that a year ago.

I like the quantic dream games, I would not them above LiS1 or BtS though.

Let's just say they tried to stay somewhat neutral. Sure you have your heavy-handed references to fleeing slaves, sorta Union-Confederates, Rosa Parks and so on...

(And you get Hilary Trump as a president lol !)

But like I said, nothing like LIS2 obvious... obviousness ! In Detroit, the bad guys are as diverse as the "heroes", there are turncoats on both sides... and people who don't know what the ♥♥♥♥ is going on. Whatever your opinions and/or ethnicity, it leaves you feeling okay enough inside once you reach the end of the game, ifyouknowwhatimean.

[kmanitou81]

Originally posted by Metalhen:

Being French myself, I can assure you they don't know the first thing about American politics. Here we're only told about Democrats and how cool they are and how everything else is ♥♥♥♥ so yeah... Plus French are awfull with english so they can't read anything about USA's politics and History and will only know what they are told... by dishonest translators more often than not.

Truth be told, no average french artist should ever dabble in politics, especially international politics or from a non-french speaking country unless they have lived there their whole life.

Exactly, this is a game based on the Leftist Twittersphere, which is what makes it so bad. It doesn't help that the lead writer is a narcissistic arrogant ♥♥♥♥. Au moins au Québec, il y a une proximité culturelle et un lien plus fort avec l'anglais.