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erretter (Banned) May 18, 2019 @ 7:27am
Why is there no outrage about the underage sex?
In episode 3. Why not rage at it?

EDIT 3:
Laughing out loud..... A mod just told me not to ask people to report this game. I mean. What?!
Reporting it does NOTHING, if Valve decides that everything is fine with the game.
So why that fear?!
The report system exists to ASK for an in depth analysis of rule breaking content. I don't see anything bad in asking for that. The report system is NOT a auto-take-down @1,000 reports. It's just asking for a check.
And I mean... if not by the report system, then how else bring this topic to Valve/Steam's attention? How? Writing a letter? Tweet them?

EDIT 2:
As an LiS 2 err... "dude" stated, the most effective thing to do is to bring this topic to Valve/Steam's attention, because no matter how much or in what direction we discuss or speculate here, about Valve/Steam's whereabouts in the end we're discussiong here in the game's forum.
Therefore: Go and report this game for Child Exploitation, to bring this topic to Valve/Steam's attention.
The report system (flag-button/symbol on the game's store page) was made for cases just like this one.

EDIT 1: I am ok with this sex scene.
And: I am Ok with anime girls in skimpy outfits.

This thread is about discussing the DOUBLE STANDARDS OF SOCIETY AND VALVE!

Why ban half naked anime girls but not western child sex???

This is the question I would like to see rationally and objetivly answered.
Last edited by erretter; May 21, 2019 @ 4:35am
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Originally posted by SE Toby:
Reminding and setting a few rules for discussion here after having observed this thread for some time.

1. No name calling of anyone else - that includes branding people SJW's, Snowflakes, Racists, Bigots, Pedos or Marxists (Hard to believe that I even need to mention that last one). This list is not exhaustive and users who decide to engage in such behavior will be suspended.

1.1 Do not pin perceived blame for Valve's decisions on political movements, such as trying to make out that "SJWs are strong-arming Valve into making x decision". Such posts are inane and only invite flaming.

2. Keep to the discussion at hand and do not make bad faith arguments. Do not derail the thread with personal attacks on other members.


Finally, as a throw-in from someone who works in the games industry, I would recommend you look at the way games are released. With LiS2, as part of SE, we ensure we do everything by the books and correctly and we work with partners to underline this. One such a test and an easy check for this is to look up the ESRB ratings for a game. Anyone of you can easily do this here:

https://www.esrb.org/ratings/search.aspx?home=1&releases=1&searchType=title&titleOrPublisher=Life+Is+Strange

If I've understood it correctly, you KotakuinAction/OAG folk are wondering why the games on this list are banned and others are not:
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/steam-waifu-holocaust-2-0-banned-game-list/

I invite you to check whether any of them have been rated. Personally, I checked through a dozen or so of them and was unable to find evidence of any such ratings.

While getting rated isn't a requirement for release, it is a good indication of whether the game developers are taking care with the way everything is portrayed and that the final game adheres to certain standards. Thus, every single big budget game is always rated globally by all local ratings agencies (ESRB, PEGI, USK, CERO etc.). Where such ratings are not present, it may be a sign that the developer or publisher is not interested in adhering to those standards or that the dev fails to understand why they're there in the first place. I'm not able to speak for any of Valve's decisions, but as was pointed out above, you are trying to compare apples to oranges when you make comparisons between the way a game like LiS2 is published and banned Anime games.

Please also avoid trying to make arguments about legalities and laws. Games with a proper publisher all have lawyers whose job it is to ensure that all products adhere to local laws. Making attempts at armchair lawyering publisher decisions highlights nothing but ignorance regarding the specifics of the product and the argument in general.

I understand that you're here to try and make an argument about other games being allowed on the platform and are trying to use LiS2 as leverage in your argument. I'm afraid that this attempt is likely doomed to fail. You clearly have a Steam centered argument so I recommend you take this discussion to the Steam main forums where Steam staff might see it, instead of debating the issue here in a sub forum where nobody who can actually do anything about your plight will ever see it.


Edit: Marking this post as the thread answer to ensure that all participants past and future are aware of the above rules.
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erretter (Banned) May 18, 2019 @ 8:31am 
I think it's time to state my opninion. I am cool with senran kagura's skimpy dressed girls and I am cool with the underage sex scene here in LiS 3.

I still don't get why there are people that are NOT cool with underage anime girls but at the same time ARE cool with kids having sex in another game.

I call those people hypocrites
Last edited by erretter; May 18, 2019 @ 8:31am
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Musou May 18, 2019 @ 9:09am 
Because we live in a world of double standards, anime tiddies = bad, underage sex in a western "game" "loved" by SJWs = woke
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Lina Inverse May 18, 2019 @ 9:47am 
I've saw many people on youtube who got pissed at it
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Nova May 18, 2019 @ 10:20am 
The difference is in how its portrayed. Anime fanservice exists for the eyes of fans, the LiS 2 sex scene is character driven and doesn't over emphasize the sex, in fact we dont even see it. And when sexual characteristics are emphasized its because Sean is looking at them, not the camera detracting from the plot to sneak a peak up a skirt or whatever.

I'm a little surprised there isn't a bigger humbug about the age difference that could exist between Cassidy and Sean, but the game made you, and the characters verbally, consent every step of the way.

The issue is natural progression vs exploitation
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generał lepper (Banned) May 18, 2019 @ 11:04am 
Originally posted by Nova:
I'm a little surprised there isn't a bigger humbug about the age difference that could exist between Cassidy and Sean, but the game made you, and the characters verbally, consent every step of the way.

It's not pedophilia because this child consented :)
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Marsson May 18, 2019 @ 11:10am 
Originally posted by generał lepper:
Originally posted by Nova:
I'm a little surprised there isn't a bigger humbug about the age difference that could exist between Cassidy and Sean, but the game made you, and the characters verbally, consent every step of the way.

It's not pedophilia because this child consented :)

Plus pedophilia means that someone is attracted to pre-pubescent kids (That would be applicable if the sex scene involved Daniel). Sean is reaching the upper teens.
Last edited by Marsson; May 18, 2019 @ 11:18am
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Eadlyn June May 18, 2019 @ 11:17am 
Age of consent is 16 where I am so It never really bothered me. I also imagine they’re within four years of each other so I didn’t see think of it as weird in any way. We also didn’t see much, just some boobs of the girl who’s probably at least 18, and it was pretty tasteful they weren’t overly sexual about it. In general I just don’t think it was a big deal they showed Shawn having sex, and not even the sex part, but they didn’t make it particularly hot or anything. It was no different than the sex scene in “A Swedish Love Story” and that movies seen as high art (because it is) so I don’t see he issue.
Also someone brought it up but then being game characters who’s ages are hard to place make it easier. If you told me Shawn was 20 I’d go “oh okay I can see that.” It’s hard to put age on these models when they’re not detailed enough to really tell.
Last edited by Eadlyn June; May 18, 2019 @ 11:27am
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generał lepper (Banned) May 18, 2019 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by Eadlyn June:
Age of consent is 16 where I am so It never really bothered me.

It doesn't matter, under the US law (where the Valve headquarters are and almost everywhere in the world) all media that contains underage sex is considered child porn.
Last edited by generał lepper; May 18, 2019 @ 11:25am
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Marsson May 18, 2019 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by generał lepper:
Originally posted by Eadlyn June:
Age of consent is 16 where I am so It never really bothered me.

It doesn't matter, under the US law (where the Valve headquarters are and almost everywhere in the world) all media that contains underage sex is considered child porn.

You're one to talk. Rabi Ribi...
Last edited by Marsson; May 18, 2019 @ 11:27am
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Eadlyn June May 18, 2019 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by generał lepper:
Originally posted by Eadlyn June:
Age of consent is 16 where I am so It never really bothered me.

It doesn't matter, under the US law (where the Valve headquarters are and almost everywhere in the world) all media that contains underage sex is considered child porn.
Okay, I was just saying how I felt towards it’s portrayal but that really sucks then. Maybe I feel different because I’m 16 so of course I’m not going to care and someone older playing this game might feel uncomfortable. Personally though, I still feel like they haven’t really done anything and this isn’t even close to porn.
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Marsson May 18, 2019 @ 11:30am 
Originally posted by Eadlyn June:
Originally posted by generał lepper:

It doesn't matter, under the US law (where the Valve headquarters are and almost everywhere in the world) all media that contains underage sex is considered child porn.
Okay, I was just saying how I felt towards it’s portrayal but that really sucks then. Maybe I feel different because I’m 16 so of course I’m not going to care and someone older playing this game might feel uncomfortable. Personally though, I still feel like they haven’t really done anything and this isn’t even close to porn.

Don't feed that user :claugh: He/she plays games that are a lot more disturbing visually. Plus he/she doesn't even own the game.
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generał lepper (Banned) May 18, 2019 @ 11:31am 
Originally posted by Marsson:
Originally posted by generał lepper:

It doesn't matter, under the US law (where the Valve headquarters are and almost everywhere in the world) all media that contains underage sex is considered child porn.

You're one to talk. Rabi Ribi...

Ohh looks like you don't have any actual arguments and you are currently digging through my steam account and bringing up random anime-like games to make me look like a hypocrite.
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Marsson May 18, 2019 @ 11:32am 
Originally posted by generał lepper:
Originally posted by Marsson:

You're one to talk. Rabi Ribi...

Ohh looks like you don't have any actual arguments and you are currently digging through my steam account and bringing up random anime-like games to make me look like a hypocrite.

Partially, yes. You featured a game on your profile which includes young children with barely any clothing at all, posed in different sexual poses. You're a hypocrite when you call out this game for putting underaged characters in sexual scenarios.
Last edited by Marsson; May 18, 2019 @ 11:33am
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Eadlyn June May 18, 2019 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Marsson:
Originally posted by Eadlyn June:
Okay, I was just saying how I felt towards it’s portrayal but that really sucks then. Maybe I feel different because I’m 16 so of course I’m not going to care and someone older playing this game might feel uncomfortable. Personally though, I still feel like they haven’t really done anything and this isn’t even close to porn.

Don't feed that user :claugh: He/she plays games that are a lot more disturbing visually. Plus he/she doesn't even own the game.
Hey dude, I thought about buying “Rabi Rabi” a few years ago, it looks like fun. I feel like you’re the one being a jerk here. Maybe he just likes the game and as far as I remember all of them are in bunny suits and that’s about it.
Anyways, maybe he watches the game? Like I never played “To The Moon” but I watched it, can I not talk about it now?
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Marsson May 18, 2019 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by Eadlyn June:
Originally posted by Marsson:

Don't feed that user :claugh: He/she plays games that are a lot more disturbing visually. Plus he/she doesn't even own the game.
Hey dude, I thought about buying “Rabi Rabi” a few years ago, it looks like fun. I feel like you’re the one being a jerk here. Maybe he just likes the game and as far as I remember all of them are in bunny suits and that’s about it.
Anyways, maybe he watches the game? Like I never played “To The Moon” but I watched it, can I not talk about it now?

You do you, I never said that you can't like the game. But it's hypocritical to say that LiS2 includes CP, and then talk about it being illegal, and then happily play a game that includes stuff like that.
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