I cant believe how stupid the beginning is...

[shit111]

Is that kind of stupidity a common thing in this game? The police officer points a gun at 2 children in bright daylight (though they dont have any weapon and they don't act aggressive towards him) and then shoots their dad who was just walking by. I really don't get it. Is it some kind of cartoon? Why then policeman didn't shoot them all when he had a chance if he was a psycho anyway...

[Marsson]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Of course ♥♥♥♥ happens in real life. There are all kinds of freaks, poorly trained cops, etc. But this is not a question of reality, it is a question of artistic fidelity. My critical point is that if you create artificial reality, make it believable. Give one of the children a gun or knife or something that makes the policeman freak out, show me that the policeman was beaten the day before, or he's just crazy, make dad more intimidating in this scene (he is trying to protect his children after all). But do not make a bad scene, hoping that I read the script and it looked good on paper.

It's not a bad scene just because you feel that you need more of an explanation.

[shit111]

it's not a good scene because you feel that you don't need explanation at all. If character's actions are not supported by story than the story is a farce. This scene will have the same level of believability if the cop just stops by their house, walks in and shoots everyone inside.
It ruined the beginning for me beacuse right after that scene there was the game's actual title.

[Marsson]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

it's not a good scene because you feel that you don't need explanation at all. If character's actions are not supported by story than the story is a farce. This scene will have the same level of believability if the cop just stops by their house, walks in and shoots everyone inside.
It ruined the beginning for me beacuse right after that scene there was the game's actual title.

It explained itself just fine :) I don't need to be handheld to understand the story. The cop panicked, and felt threatened by what he saw (blood-covered kid, and a blody boy on the ground) and then shot the dad by accident. Being scared/panicked is pretty realistic for a newly trained cop, being by himself and all.

[Scorpion242]

Originally posted by Marsson:

It explained itself just fine :) I don't need to be handheld to understand the story. The cop panicked, and felt threatened by what he saw (blood-covered kid, and a blody boy on the ground) and then shot the dad by accident. Being scared/panicked is pretty realistic for a newly trained cop, being by himself and all.

Its not the cop shooting that is stupid, it is the events that lead up to it. The father dying could have been a featured death in a Final Destination movie.

[Marsson]

Originally posted by Scorpion242:

Originally posted by Marsson:

It explained itself just fine :) I don't need to be handheld to understand the story. The cop panicked, and felt threatened by what he saw (blood-covered kid, and a blody boy on the ground) and then shot the dad by accident. Being scared/panicked is pretty realistic for a newly trained cop, being by himself and all.

Its not the cop shooting that is stupid, it is the events that lead up to it. The father dying could have been a featured death in a Final Destination movie.

Nah, or yeah if it was in season 1 maybe, because then Max could've just used her rewind time thing, which was all she did in season 1.

[shit111]

Originally posted by Marsson:

It explained itself just fine :) I don't need to be handheld to understand the story. The cop panicked, and felt threatened by what he saw (blood-covered kid, and a blody boy on the ground) and then shot the dad by accident. Being scared/panicked is pretty realistic for a newly trained cop, being by himself and all.

Again: it's ok on paper. When I saw the actual scene I couldn't stop laughting at its culmination. Do you really felt dramatic impact?!

[Marsson]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Originally posted by Marsson:

It explained itself just fine :) I don't need to be handheld to understand the story. The cop panicked, and felt threatened by what he saw (blood-covered kid, and a blody boy on the ground) and then shot the dad by accident. Being scared/panicked is pretty realistic for a newly trained cop, being by himself and all.

Again: it's ok on paper. When I saw the actual scene I couldn't stop laughting at its culmination. Do you really felt dramatic impact?!

Yup :) I actually loved season 2 more than season 1 and BtS, and I were able to connect to the characters a lot more than in previous entries.

[shit111]

Originally posted by Scorpion242:

Its not the cop shooting that is stupid, it is the events that lead up to it. The father dying could have been a featured death in a Final Destination movie.

i couldn't agree more

[shit111]

Originally posted by Marsson:

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Again: it's ok on paper. When I saw the actual scene I couldn't stop laughting at its culmination. Do you really felt dramatic impact?!

Yup :) I actually loved season 2 more than season 1 and BtS, and I were able to connect to the characters a lot more than in previous entries.

I like all the previous games but don't remember that anything there was so mind-boggling to me

[Marsson]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Originally posted by Marsson:

Yup :) I actually loved season 2 more than season 1 and BtS, and I were able to connect to the characters a lot more than in previous entries.

I like all the previous games but don't remember that anything there was so mind-boggling to me

I just loved the theme, setting, music and characters a lot more.

[shit111]

Well, the theme, setting and music are good so far, as for the characters I'm not so sure.

[wyliecat]

Originally posted by Marsson:

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Yup :) I actually loved season 2 more than season 1 and BtS, and I were able to connect to the characters a lot more than in previous entries.

I agree, even though I didn't play LIS1, the connection I built toward the characters was more than any of the hundreds of games I have previously played. Nod did a great job. I played it through without the music score once as well experimentally and found the music really makes a difference in the felt emotion; however, there is still plenty there in action, facial expression and tone of the characters.

[shit111]

Originally posted by f.ultron:

well, it's not like there aren't any more moments of stupid later in the game. For example, in the last episode

I probably shouldn't read the spoilers and maybe won't agree with your point when I get to the ep.5, but, man, that was funny af)

[Marsson]

Originally posted by wyliecat:

I agree, even though I didn't play LIS1, the connection I built toward the characters was more than any of the hundreds of games I have previously played. Nod did a great job. I played it through without the music score once as well experimentally and found the music really makes a difference in the felt emotion; however, there is still plenty there in action, facial expression and tone of the characters.

Yeah, Jonathan Morali's soundtrack is phenomenal. I even added a lot of the songs to my spotify playlist

[wyliecat]

This is not the type of game to look at spoilers before you have played it through once. I'm really glad I didn't. I started looking after my second full play through to see just how good I could get Daniel and still finish with the ending I wanted. I'm still toying with that a bit.Did you notice the color change in Sean's eye depending on the ending you got? Very cool.