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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_extradition_relations_with_Mexico
Not to mention the act of LEGITIMATE TERRORISM Daniel unleashes by literally breaking the wall I'm sure Mexico paid for in DONTNOD's universe.
I totally agree with you
Also the OP Volkswachter decided to play the more criminal and immoral way and then complains about it.
There's even a doubt if Volkswachter have really played the game. If he had he would have known about all the choices that affects the story and how they build Daniel's personality. Some choices are availible or unavailible depending on Daniel's personality, and there are 4 different endings (2 of them with an immoral Daniel and 2 with a moral one), plus some alternate versions of some of the endings.
First, I am the daughter of a sheriff; I know the ins and outs of the police force quite well. I can't think of many other professions which require you to wear a body camera to ensure you are doing your job to "very high standards." We're forced to pay their salaries, and they are forced to defend our lives at the risk of their own. You want to know the average salary of a police officer? Depending on the area and rank, they only get $36K - $100K GROSS a year. This is only roughly NATIONALLY ON AVERAGE A YEAR $15K more than the average salary. My father spent his vacation time going back to his parents' home in Nebraska to work on the family farm during harvest for extra money. If you want to risk your life daily for an increasingly thankless job in which you have to file a report for literally everything you do, all the while having to deal with the fact that anyone you arrest can and WILL do everything they can to make your life hell for it, be a cop.
Second, let's run back what actually happened at the beginning of the game, not what you think happened through your blind emotional support of the main characters. Your little brother decided to play in YOUR NEIGHBOR'S yard. He then decided to spill fake blood on the neighbor. When Sean comes out, the neighbor is clearly a jerk and a bully. This has been established already in the story. So what does Sean decide to do? Once they make the adult decision to go back home, Sean decides to punch the bully for TRASH TALK WHILE NOW BACK ON THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY. The neighbor NEVER physically assaults them; he's all talk, no bite. In America, Sean just earned his ticket to jail. There is no law saying you can beat the crap out of someone for insulting you in America, that's why there are so many smart mouths out here. The ONLY accident was the bully falling on that rock, which seriously injures him. Sean is at fault for all of this. The police officer that arrives at the scene, Kindred Matthews, only knows what he sees: A kid on the ground unable to move with BLOOD everywhere (everyone loves forgetting about that part, even if it's fake, how is the cop supposed to know that?) and two kids screaming and clearly freaking out. The officer had EVERY right to draw his weapon on Sean; how the F was he supposed to know exactly what happened, especially when it looks like the kid is covered in blood too? How was the officer supposed to know Sean wasn't armed especially with the visual scene he arrived at?! This is STANDARD procedure. You do not, nor anyone else, have the right to tell a police officer they are not allowed to defend themselves by securing a crime scene, which is exactly what the police officer does. Sean and Daniel rightfully get on the ground when the genius to end all geniuses decides to intervene, the boys' father, Esteban. Esteban not only refuses to back off like the cop is clearly BEGGING him to, he keeps advancing. How many times does the police officer tell him to stand back and get on the ground? It should have only been once because Esteban should have f-ing listened. And even if you want to say the cop was wrong for pulling his gun out on a kid who might have just killed a man, Esteban's stupidity at not cooperating when a man with a LOADED WEAPON IS POINTING IT RIGHT AT HIM. He could've been just as mad as he wanted about it, but still alive, if he would've done the right thing and complied. The game even calls Sean out for this behaviour at the end when the other cop asks him why he didn't just wait for the police to show up if it was truly an accident!
Third, Esteban was 100% in the wrong for continuing to approach an armed officer who kept telling him and telling him and telling him to stay back. Esteban did not listen and the officer had every right to think his life was in danger considering the scene (there's still a kid unable to move on the ground covered in "blood"). The officer's fear for his life is then 100% justified by Daniel's actions. DANIEL MURDERED HIM. DANIEL STRAIGHT UP MURDERS A POLICE OFFICER AND YOU THINK THAT OFFICER WAS UNJUSTIFIED IN FEARING FOR HIS LIFE IN THE FIRST PLACE? WHAT PLANET ARE YOU LIVING ON?
Also why couldn't they just flee the church without burning it to the ground and killing the pastor?
"Cops are trained to deescalate"
The cop ordered the Father to get on the ground multiple time, the cop ordered the father to "step back" multiple times. The father kept advancing and the cop was perfectly within his rights to shoot. Go watch a few of those "shoot don't shoot" training videos on youtube. You'll find that officers have every right to shoot a suspect who is disobeying lawful orders with or without a weapon present.
The presumption on the officers part HAS TO BE; "If this person is not a threat to me, he would comply with my orders; he is closing the distance between us, if he isn't going to attack me there is no need to do this"
It's so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ simple dude; when the police order you to get on the ground, get on the ground; if you are in the right and you've done nothing and they arrest you then you get to sue the living ♥♥♥♥ out of the city for false imprisonment; if you're in the right and you're not arrested, congrats, you also didn't get shot by police for being an idiot.
Why do minorities not understand this? There's no point arguing with the police; at all, it literally cannot help you to argue with them. If you're going to get arrested then you're going to get arrested, you can't talk your way out of it, and frankly the hundreds of people a day who try to are the reason cops have such little patience with this ♥♥♥♥. Just comply with orders; assist the officer in doing his job, if you've done something wrong then you need to take your medicine.
Do you know why cops get people who were not involved in an incident but present for it to get on the ground with their hands behind their head? Because sometime, somewhere, cops were killed by bystanders. Cops are trained to secure a scene, process the people involved, and keep themselves safe.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
"This country was founded by rebelling against the police."
No it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wasn't. America was founded by rebelling against the British Army and the Crown of England.
" I am not a democrat or a republican, I just have basic empathy for defenseless people. This game actually does promote decisions that go against things like murder and theft. Even when many would feel it would be justified. Have you even played this game?"
My choices are not the object of my ridicule; the reactions and support of the characters around me are the objects of my criticism. Lets suppose you are right; and I could play the game like a saint and make the supposedly "right" (by your reckoning) decisions. The issue is that the game still treats Daniel and Sean like good people even when you go on a murderous rampage. People support you, your Grandparents, David, Karen, Cassidy and the burnout crew; they all allude to knowing about "what went down in Seattle" and still support you. The fat Jewish stereotype which (frankly I'd find offensive if I were you) who knows ALL about Sean's crime spree in Seattle gives him money; a free ride, and a free hotel room, despite the fact that Sean got his face (rightfully) kicked in for stealing and for being a wanted felon who attacked a man (yet again) on his own property.
THAT is the issue; the game treats violent minorities like saints; there are seemingly no consequences for abusing your brother's power; no consequences for being a thug, dumb rich, spoiled liberal degenerates will harbour you in their sanctuaries regardless; and treat you like you're stunning and brave
EVEN ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DAVID HAS YOUR BACK. You lie, you manipulate, you murder, you steal, you rob and pillage and burn down everything in your way, and the game still treats you like a hero for "teaching Daniel to value himself and you over others"
A really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up interpretation of family values if you ask me.
Lets assume you're totally correct and Brett being alive wasn't chapter two retconning chapter one. First and foremost, I wrote my original comment after finishing the first chapter. I had not yet progressed through the game at that point in time. Assuming that the cutscene of Brett falling on a rock and ceasing to breathe in the first episode was totally a red-herring, didn't happen, "lul fooooled you he's just in the hospital haha you fell for it" plot device. Lets assume you're correct about all of that; and I guess, given chapter 2 either retconning or revealing whichever side of the coin you wanna land on, that Brett didn't die, you're technically right... okay, that's all out of the way...
Getting angry at your neighbor for trespassing on your property and spraying you with fake "zombie" blood doesn't count as instigating. In fact; Sean went onto Brett's property and confronted him, on HIS PROPERTY, about Daniel getting in trouble for trespassing on Brett's property and bukakke-ing Brett with corn syrup and food colouring...
That's not "instigation"; two people on your property, one of them yelling at you, who then has the option to either punch you in the face, on your own property, or continue to yell at you (on your own property) is a crime in and of itself.
I'm of the opinion that Brett *did* die, and that the Easter Egg/news article you can read on that laptop in Chapter 2 was a retcon, but that's my opinion. You can hear Brett's spine break as he hits the rock and, he's not breathing.
The fact that they (apparently) didn't kill Brett is irrelevant. Whatever Brett said to "instigate" the fight is irrelevant; Sean trespassed on another person's property and assaulted them. In most States that would have been enough for Brett to legally shoot Sean.
This is straight from google:
"State law also allows someone to use deadly force to protect his or herself within their home, a legal defense commonly known as the Castle Doctrine. Washington does not have a specific “castle” law, but it does have very similar language extending the right to protect one's self and others in a residence"
The legal discrepancy being what constitutes a "residence"; some lawyers can argue successfully that a car, or RV, or place of work, or your lawn are equal to the inside of your home per the definition of "residence"; I'm not sure what Washington State's law is word for word; but the point is that Brett could, within reason, have shot Sean for doing what he did.
Bruh; stop trying to hand (fictional) brown people special "beat yo ass" privilege that you know ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ well you wouldn't extend to White people.
First, you are missing the point entirely and are also wrong. Washington State does NOT have a "mutual combat law," the law is only written in such a way that there has to be a VICTIM. Sean and Brett could have technically agreed to a fist fight between each other, but that is not what happens. It does not matter that Brett insulted Sean. Didn't ANYONE ever teach you, "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"? Everybody's against violence until a character they like uses it; then all of a sudden it's "Hurr durr BUT HE STARTED IT BY CALLING ME A POO POO HEAD." That did not work in my grade school, and it does not work in court.
Second, have you ever wondered why the grown adult game developers wanted to make it extremely clear Daniel was playing around with fake zombie BLOOD? Have you ever wondered why the developers zoomed in on Brett falling spine-first into a sharp rock, rendering him motionless? The ENTIRE point of painting such a scene was to give the cop a very clear and obvious reason to draw his weapon on Sean and Daniel. YOU'RE the ones not paying attention to what's going on in the game. The game developers WANTED to make sure the players understood the cop unholstered his weapon with good reason.
Third, so by the grace of retcon-ing what I suspect was supposed to be Brett's death in favour of portraying Sean in a more positive light (given everything OP has ACTUALLY criticized the game for instead of what you all keep trying to harp on like nit-picking ninnies), Brett did not die. That kind of justification is akin to "Well, officer, I DID beat the crap out of my wife, yes, she was critically injured and she's extremely lucky when I stabbed her I missed any major arteries even though I was super close and boy golly is she lucky... but she's not dead. Therefore, I did nothing wrong!" WHEN WOULD THAT LOGIC EVER HOLD UP IN COURT? And does it even MATTER at the end of the day considering Daniel 100% for-suresies killed that cop? Once again, you CANNOT blame Brett for Esteban being an absolute moron who refused to comply with an armed officer responding to an active crime scene he was attempting to secure. COME ON.