SPOILERS: Do my choices even matter?

[Lucky Shot]

Hello.
So, I avoided using the internet and the phone whenever I had the chance, I avoided talking to anyone in the market (except Cassidy), but I still got found by the cops. Then why did I go through all this trouble to avoid them? I wanted to talk to Lyla so much, but I was trying to be careful. But the cops found me anyway. Is this even fair?
I also encouraged Daniel to use his power as long as he follows the rules, although he still didn't listen to me, since grandpa found out and Chris thought that they were his powers. I told him to use them as a last resort, I made him use his powers to help grandpa, but I just didn't let him tell Chris the truth or make a prank in the market, because...rules! And the result is that Chris got hurt. Wow, what the hell? Why? And he accused me that it's my fault. So, I was always kind to him, I didn't stop him from using his powers whenever it was necessary, but he still ended up accusing me of repressing his power. What the hell should I have done then? I'm really frustrated by the consequences, even though I was sure I made the correct choices for his own good.
And something irrelevant: I didn't have enough money, but the game was forcing me to get Daniel a present, so I had to steal something. Why? Was getting him a present so important that I had to end up stealing?
Can someone please help me, tell me what I did wrong?! I just feel so frustrated with this game right now!

[Lucky Shot]

Publicado originalmente por thegangstafish:

Publicado originalmente por Lucky Shot:

Yeah, I thought that Chris should have learned the truth before he ends up pretending to be Superman, but then again, I thought it's more important to keep it a secret, otherwise he would tell his dad, then his dad would call the cops, etc. Still, why didn't Daniel stop the car? How is it my fault that he didn't stop it? And, since the cops came anyway, then I should have just called Lyla and checked the internet.

Not sure why Daniel didn't stop the car. You might have done one thing that canceled a couple other decisions out or needed a really specific combination of big decisions and micro-decisions to make Daniel believe that it was okay to save Chris with his powers.

As for the cops, I believe not using the internet or phone are mandatory to get the ending where they escape undramatically through he backyard. I could be wrong though.

I didn't use the internet and the phone. The sheriff came because someone saw me in the market - dunno who! And what should I have done with Daniel? Let him kill the animal? Let him make a prank? I dunno, I'm content with my decisions, but I hate the consequences because they don't have anything to do with my decisions.

[thegangstafish]

Publicado originalmente por Lucky Shot:

Publicado originalmente por thegangstafish:

Not sure why Daniel didn't stop the car. You might have done one thing that canceled a couple other decisions out or needed a really specific combination of big decisions and micro-decisions to make Daniel believe that it was okay to save Chris with his powers.

As for the cops, I believe not using the internet or phone are mandatory to get the ending where they escape undramatically through he backyard. I could be wrong though.

I didn't use the internet and the phone. The sheriff came because someone saw me in the market - dunno who! And what should I have done with Daniel? Let him kill the animal? Let him make a prank? I dunno, I'm content with my decisions, but I hate the consequences because they don't have anything to do with my decisions.

You asked, what's the point of not using the phone and internet if the cops come anyway? I'm saying, if you don't, Chris might help you escape through the back instead of running out into the street. It's just one of several factors though, not the be-all end-all. I think that if you do either of those things, you completely cancel out the chance of getting the peaceful ending. Hence, why it was better that you didn't do them even though the police still arrive in any scenario.

If you didn't use the phone or computer, but Chris still got hit, it must be partly because he never found out that he doesn't have superpowers. You chose not to advise Daniel to tell the truth, so that explains that. As for why Daniel didn't move the car to save Chris, again, I don't know which of your choices caused that.

[Lord Mu 340]

Publicado originalmente por thegangstafish:

Publicado originalmente por Lucky Shot:

I didn't use the internet and the phone. The sheriff came because someone saw me in the market - dunno who! And what should I have done with Daniel? Let him kill the animal? Let him make a prank? I dunno, I'm content with my decisions, but I hate the consequences because they don't have anything to do with my decisions.

You asked, what's the point of not using the phone and internet if the cops come anyway? I'm saying, if you don't, Chris might help you escape through the back instead of running out into the street. It's just one of several factors though, not the be-all end-all. I think that if you do either of those things, you completely cancel out the chance of getting the peaceful ending. Hence, why it was better that you didn't do them even though the police still arrive in any scenario.

If you didn't use the phone or computer, but Chris still got hit, it must be partly because he never found out that he doesn't have superpowers. You chose not to advise Daniel to tell the truth, so that explains that. As for why Daniel didn't move the car to save Chris, again, I don't know which of your choices caused that.

In my first playthroutgh, Sean used the internet but was able to escape peacefully.

[splinter3d]

I am in minority here but I really don't like storyline choices at all, only gameplay choices. But this game offers you choices and does it unfair. Chris was hit by the car but I have chosen "use you powers only in extra sitiations". So he should have used them.

[thevid9]

I did a lot of the same things that the first post discusses but for some reason he saved Chris from the cop car in my playthrough so Chris didn't get hurt.

I did let him kill the mountain lion though, I let Daniel get revenge for mushroom's death.

And Chris never learned the secret from Daniel so he was trying to stop the car but Daniel was right behind and stopped the car.

[Live from Aporia]

Your choices all have consequences, though maybe not the ones you were expecting.

[Lucky Shot]

I've been searching the internet and it feels like it'd be better if I'd called Lyla in both episodes. I feel sad for being extra careful and never calling her.

[seekerslegacy]

Look at everyone in here just making up lies that your choices don’t matter in LIS 2, when yes, they have. There have been consequences of the choices you make so far. Episodes 1 and 2 are actually great. Kind of questioning the logic of everyone saying it’s crap when it’s doing really well so far.

[Lucky Shot]

Publicado originalmente por seekerslegacy:

Look at everyone in here just making up lies that your choices don’t matter in LIS 2, when yes, they have. There have been consequences of the choices you make so far. Episodes 1 and 2 are actually great. Kind of questioning the logic of everyone saying it’s crap when it’s doing really well so far.

Never said I dislike this game. Still, assuming you have already played all the episodes so far, I've not seen many choices that actually matter. No matter how good I was to Daniel, he's still a brat and scripted events still define his future. Even if something happens to Chris, the grandparents, or Lyla, they're left behind anyway. I mean, we may only see them in the end once again for only a moment or not at all.

[Demitr]

Regardless of the choices made, the final result is always same.

[Scorpion242]

Publicado originalmente por seekerslegacy:

Look at everyone in here just making up lies that your choices don’t matter in LIS 2, when yes, they have.

Not really, characters are dropped anyway, doesn´t matter if they are dead or just left behind.
Ep3 has proven that Daniels behaviour is set, no matter what you do and how you treat him (wasn´t that supposed to be the great feature of this game? shaping Daniel? The only thing shaping him is what Dontnod needs for the next scene.

There have been consequences of the choices you make so far. Episodes 1 and 2 are actually great.

How did refusing to go to the market work out for you? How about not breaking into Karen´s room? Even better how about walking away from the neighbour to not get your father killed? This game is full of false choices that don´t change anything.

Kind of questioning the logic of everyone saying it’s crap when it’s doing really well so far.

"People disagree with my assessment, must all be stupid."

[seekerslegacy]

Publicado originalmente por Scorpion242:

Publicado originalmente por seekerslegacy:

Look at everyone in here just making up lies that your choices don’t matter in LIS 2, when yes, they have.

Not really, characters are dropped anyway, doesn´t matter if they are dead or just left behind.
Ep3 has proven that Daniels behaviour is set, no matter what you do and how you treat him (wasn´t that supposed to be the great feature of this game? shaping Daniel? The only thing shaping him is what Dontnod needs for the next scene.

There have been consequences of the choices you make so far. Episodes 1 and 2 are actually great.

How did refusing to go to the market work out for you? How about not breaking into Karen´s room? Even better how about walking away from the neighbour to not get your father killed? This game is full of false choices that don´t change anything.

Kind of questioning the logic of everyone saying it’s crap when it’s doing really well so far.

"People disagree with my assessment, must all be stupid."

Right because after just three episodes, Daniel can’t be shaped or influenced any further. That’s it. No more. Right, ok. 🤦‍♂️ And characters we have met so far must never ever show up again when there’s still two episodes to go. Damn you’re cynical when there’s no reason to be and most everything about season 2 has been pretty strong. I’d be willing to make a guaranteed promise that at least by episode 5, some of the major characters from past episodes will show up again. You’re definitely wrong about Daniel though if you think that there will be no way to influence or shape him going forward.

[Scorpion242]

Publicado originalmente por seekerslegacy:

Right because after just three episodes, Daniel can’t be shaped or influenced any further. That’s it. No more. Right, ok. 🤦‍♂️

We will see about that, did being a caring parent stop him from threatening you or from entering the house when told to stay put or from trying to rob a safe?

And characters we have met so far must never ever show up again when there’s still two episodes to go. Damn you’re cynical when there’s no reason to be and most everything about season 2 has been pretty strong. I’d be willing to make a guaranteed promise that at least by episode 5, some of the major characters from past episodes will show up again.

There is our disagreement, there only was one pretty strong feature in lis2 so far and that is the camp from episode 3. Almost everything else was lackluster and disappointing.
A guaranteed promise is quite strong for something neither or us can do. I know people are high on their courtroom theory, but character appearing there are without consequence.

You’re definitely wrong about Daniel though if you think that there will be no way to influence or shape him going forward.

The shaping so far was inconsequential for the story. He just adopts the personality he needs to have with Dontnod not caring how the realtionship was before => This is were all the disgruntled people come from.

[seekerslegacy]

Publicado originalmente por Scorpion242:

Publicado originalmente por seekerslegacy:

Right because after just three episodes, Daniel can’t be shaped or influenced any further. That’s it. No more. Right, ok. 🤦‍♂️

We will see about that, did being a caring parent stop him from threatening you or from entering the house when told to stay put or from trying to rob a safe?

And characters we have met so far must never ever show up again when there’s still two episodes to go. Damn you’re cynical when there’s no reason to be and most everything about season 2 has been pretty strong. I’d be willing to make a guaranteed promise that at least by episode 5, some of the major characters from past episodes will show up again.

There is our disagreement, there only was one pretty strong feature in lis2 so far and that is the camp from episode 3. Almost everything else was lackluster and disappointing.
A guaranteed promise is quite strong for something neither or us can do. I know people are high on their courtroom theory, but character appearing there are without consequence.

You’re definitely wrong about Daniel though if you think that there will be no way to influence or shape him going forward.

The shaping so far was inconsequential for the story. He just adopts the personality he needs to have with Dontnod not caring how the realtionship was before => This is were all the disgruntled people come from.

You’ll have to explain how episodes 1 and 2 were lackluster. I think both episodes are great. The first episode was a strong set up for the story and had an emotional conclusion and if anything episode 2 was even better. People only complain about it because it was more slow “slice of life”, normal life stuff instead of being all drama, which was actually a nice change to see. Also Cassidy’s introduction and her song at the Christmas market and the end credits is now one of my favorite songs for one of my new favorite characters. Life is Strange 2 has NOT been lackluster so far. I think it’s living up to what made people fans of the first game.

[Scorpion242]

Publicado originalmente por seekerslegacy:

You’ll have to explain how episodes 1 and 2 were lackluster. I think both episodes are great. The first episode was a strong set up for the story and had an emotional conclusion and if anything episode 2 was even better. People only complain about it because it was more slow “slice of life”, normal life stuff instead of being all drama, which was actually a nice change to see. Also Cassidy’s introduction and her song at the Christmas market and the end credits is now one of my favorite songs for one of my new favorite characters. Life is Strange 2 has NOT been lackluster so far. I think it’s living up to what made people fans of the first game.

Episode 1 was political commentary that needed a spice of final destination to even get the story started. And it also needed that little idiot to never question why he suddenly was on a trip with his brother. He questions everything else, except the giant plothole that is only there so someone can have a last scene without a real payoff.
Episode 2 was even worse. Two people hiding in the woods, two people hiding in a house, two people going to the market while being hunted by the police. So much slice of life...