[SPOILERS] Is sean dead?

[DusselMauser]

So at the ending sean had glass in his eye ... will he come back? I ♥♥♥♥ing hate daniel I felt bad for him at first but now he deserves death!

[jz78817]

What would Daniel do without his brother tutelage?

probably do better. everything that's gone wrong in this game so far has been due to Sean's screw ups and bad decisions.

[garbaron]

Is it really Seans fault?

Who wanted to go the x-mas marked? Sean or Daniel? Sean only agrees after being pestered by Daniel and Chris to go along. And if Sean had shown up later at the Erikson’s they would have already left as they were about to leave when Sean gets to them.

From a responsible point of view Sean NEVER would agree to the heist – as it puts Daniel in danger, Sean says so immediately when Finn suggests the heist - and then it is Daniel who does go along with the heist anyway. Resulting in what happens at the end or EP3 – a Finn and Cass hurt, Sean blinded on the left eye, Merrill maybe dead!

Also – it’s Daniel who is rather aggressive in EP3 - not Sean. I get why Daniel is the way he is - the flashback shows he felt abandoned by Sean when their lives where still intact - now their father – Daniels “best friend” - is dead and all Daniel has left is Sean -- who gets stoned and drunk every night as per Sean sketchbook, apparently avoiding Daniel as much as he can. Daniel is angry at having lost his life, being the outsider in the group due to his age and now loosing Sean because Sean has the hots for Cassidy and is perceived by Daniel to be with her 24/7.

But it’s no excuse to force push Sean hard earlier, be disobedient although he knows Merrill isn’t exactly happy he is even there, implying to slip the tree on Sean, be all “am not a kid anymore” and possibly force choking Cass! Daniel crossed multiple lines in EpP3 and he’s got to better face that before something really bad happens.

[jz78817]

Is it really Seans fault?

well, yeah. he's the one who dragged Daniel out on the run even though he did nothing wrong, he's the one who lied to Daniel for days about what happened to their father, he's the one who kept running even when being advised against it (by Claire & Stephen,) he's the one who dragged his little brother into the midst of a bunch of unsavory people running an illegal drug operation, etc. like I said elsewhere:

- Sean could have stayed put in Seattle. There were no weapons there, Brett Foster wasn't dead, there was nothing to explain the blast. Nothing to pin the cop's death on Sean. But by running, now he looks guilty (as Claire says in ep. 2, "now they DO blame you!"

- Sean could have realized that if the newspaper at Hank's gas station has their pictures on the front page, someone would recognize them. Nope, go in, lounge around for a while and wait for someone to spot them.

- they could have stayed put in Beaver Creek. Daniel could have had a friend again (Chris,) and although stifling they could have managed under their grandparents' roof.

- or, when discovered at the end of Ep. 2, Sean could have turned himself in. Chances are Daniel would have stayed with Claire & Stephen (& Chris,) and they could have arranged a lawyer for him and as in my first point there likely wouldn't have been anything to pin onto Sean. but no, go running again and f*** everything up some more.

and so on.

remember, the game says it's all about choices and consequences. YOURS. What Daniel does (even if he's a "brat" who "doesn't listen") is a consequence of YOUR choices. if Daniel is "being a brat," it's because of something(s) you did earlier. can't un-ring a bell, and all that.

[DusselMauser]

Origineel geplaatst door jz78817:

Is it really Seans fault?

well, yeah. he's the one who dragged Daniel out on the run even though he did nothing wrong, he's the one who lied to Daniel for days about what happened to their father, he's the one who kept running even when being advised against it (by Claire & Stephen,) he's the one who dragged his little brother into the midst of a bunch of unsavory people running an illegal drug operation, etc. like I said elsewhere:

- Sean could have stayed put in Seattle. There were no weapons there, Brett Foster wasn't dead, there was nothing to explain the blast. Nothing to pin the cop's death on Sean. But by running, now he looks guilty (as Claire says in ep. 2, "now they DO blame you!"

- Sean could have realized that if the newspaper at Hank's gas station has their pictures on the front page, someone would recognize them. Nope, go in, lounge around for a while and wait for someone to spot them.

- they could have stayed put in Beaver Creek. Daniel could have had a friend again (Chris,) and although stifling they could have managed under their grandparents' roof.

- or, when discovered at the end of Ep. 2, Sean could have turned himself in. Chances are Daniel would have stayed with Claire & Stephen (& Chris,) and they could have arranged a lawyer for him and as in my first point there likely wouldn't have been anything to pin onto Sean. but no, go running again and f*** everything up some more.

and so on.

remember, the game says it's all about choices and consequences. YOURS. What Daniel does (even if he's a "brat" who "doesn't listen") is a consequence of YOUR choices. if Daniel is "being a brat," it's because of something(s) you did earlier. can't un-ring a bell, and all that.

First off , they blamed the two kids for the shooting , also the cops knew it wasn't a shooting . They knew something happened but they covered it up you see all witnesses either got knocked out before the blast or died during it . 3rd , I completely agree with you on your third point. It was a dumbass decision 4. They blamed Daniel for the shooting too the cameras most likely saw what happened on full ! 5. he didn't become a brat until the 3rd episode also I respected him with all my decisions and refused to go against him.

[Sparkless20]

Origineel geplaatst door jz78817:

Is it really Seans fault?

well, yeah. he's the one who dragged Daniel out on the run even though he did nothing wrong, he's the one who lied to Daniel for days about what happened to their father, he's the one who kept running even when being advised against it (by Claire & Stephen,) he's the one who dragged his little brother into the midst of a bunch of unsavory people running an illegal drug operation, etc. like I said elsewhere:

To wait for the police when you father was shoot by an officer who then suddenly died by an unknown force would have sepparated the brothers. If Sean would say the truth Daniel would end up as sience doll or something like Jodie Holmes from Beyond Two Souls. And if he keeps the truth he would end up as terrorist in jail an Daniel would end in foster care. He was scared and ran because at that moment he didn't knew what happenend.

Origineel geplaatst door jz78817:

- Sean could have stayed put in Seattle. There were no weapons there, Brett Foster wasn't dead, there was nothing to explain the blast. Nothing to pin the cop's death on Sean. But by running, now he looks guilty (as Claire says in ep. 2, "now they DO blame you!"

The father was also innocent, and look what happened to him...

Origineel geplaatst door jz78817:

- Sean could have realized that if the newspaper at Hank's gas station has their pictures on the front page, someone would recognize them. Nope, go in, lounge around for a while and wait for someone to spot them.

What should he have done then? Pick all papers out and burn them. Not suspicious at all. And if he just had moved on Daniel would have wondered why and they needed food and a map. Sometimes you are forced to do dump things.

Origineel geplaatst door jz78817:

- they could have stayed put in Beaver Creek. Daniel could have had a friend again (Chris,) and although stifling they could have managed under their grandparents' roof.

Meeting with Chris was what got them not to stay. I agree that Sean shoul' have sad no when the marked was a thing. I was angry, too.

Origineel geplaatst door jz78817:

- or, when discovered at the end of Ep. 2, Sean could have turned himself in. Chances are Daniel would have stayed with Claire & Stephen (& Chris,) and they could have arranged a lawyer for him and as in my first point there likely wouldn't have been anything to pin onto Sean. but no, go running again and f*** everything up some more.

Same as before. If Sean would hide the truth Daniel may will have an almost normal live but Sean will never see freedom again for a looooong time. And if Sean tell the Cobs about the power, what would they do with Daniel?

Origineel geplaatst door jz78817:

remember, the game says it's all about choices and consequences. YOURS. What Daniel does (even if he's a "brat" who "doesn't listen") is a consequence of YOUR choices. if Daniel is "being a brat," it's because of something(s) you did earlier. can't un-ring a bell, and all that.

Half agree... Sometimes he is acting because of what you taught him. And sometimes he is acting on his own. No matter what you do he will break the door of Merril. But he will go even further when Cass is there and Sean spent to much time or agreed with her. That is the Consequence.

[xSchons]

Origineel geplaatst door Jtrixie79:

So at the ending sean had glass in his eye ... will he come back? I ♥♥♥♥ing hate daniel I felt bad for him at first but now he deserves death!

you guys all dont understand kids..

[Sparkless20]

Origineel geplaatst door xSchons:

Origineel geplaatst door Jtrixie79:

So at the ending sean had glass in his eye ... will he come back? I ♥♥♥♥ing hate daniel I felt bad for him at first but now he deserves death!

you guys all dont understand kids..

Nah, they were all angels who never screwd up anything.
Daniel hated it to stay with the punks, so he did everything to get away fast. Like a child wich is bored in the ball pit and then ran away.

Attention: Little Daniel Diaz is wating for his big brother Sean at register no 3. Please come and get him.

[TreeTrunk]

We won't find out for months damn...

[ジン | Zickzack00]

If you really want an interesting point of view from the developer's site I only can advise you (BUT it MAY contain hints about the one or other theory out there so) to only visit it when you are sure : https://venturebeat.com/2019/05/24/life-is-strange-2-episode-3-impressions-less-choice-more-drama/


What I meant (might be a big spoiler for the topic of this thread aswell, just to warn u): Did not know they just wanted to drop Lyla, for me this seems to also contradict with the court theory many people mentioned, as for that they would definitely knew to not drop Lyla, and sean more or less confirmed alive

[Riddler]

Origineel geplaatst door Zickzack00:

If you really want an interesting point of view from the developer's site I only can advise you (BUT it MAY contain hints about the one or other theory out there so) to only visit it when you are sure : https://venturebeat.com/2019/05/24/life-is-strange-2-episode-3-impressions-less-choice-more-drama/


What I meant (might be a big spoiler for the topic of this thread aswell, just to warn u): Did not know they just wanted to drop Lyla, for me this seems to also contradict with the court theory many people mentioned, as for that they would definitely knew to not drop Lyla, and sean more or less confirmed alive

Yeah that was a downer for me :D
Really expected something with Lyla on the road. And yes, the court theory is pretty much dead after this statement. But i wasn't a fan of that theory either, so i'm glad it's dead^^
But this also confirms that the brothers won't get back to their old life in Seattle in the end.