Has it gotten better?

[thaundeadone84]

I started this long long long road about a year ago with LiS1 and BTS about a month or two before LiS 2 came out. And I fell in love with both of the games. And when I saw LiS 2 was coming out within a month or two of me completing LiS1 I went and bought BTS and LiS 2. Didn't want to miss anything in BTS that may or may not have supported LiS1. When the first episode came out....it was meh. I felt like it was slow, slower than LiS1anyway. I mean the biggest event was the whole cop shooting the dad; daniel using his powers by accident. And then you had the Racist White Guy Store Owner Dude lock Sean up and then you and daniel escape and find the Liberal White Guy (Brody?). The entire middle was just pointless. If I want extra stuffing I'll ask. I get they are running away, but jeez I don't have to watch a cutscene of them walking down the road to control Sean to walk down the road to then get to another cutscene to go down the road some more to then find the campground/trail. I don't think I played Episode 2 but I don't remember. I don't hate LiS2 I think I am just disappointed I was expecting a great story and so far I feel like its been lackluster, I've seen gameplay of Episode Two and guessed what would happen to the dog. I was also disappointed in the songs...LiS1 had a great soundtrack and I still listen to it today. Is there actual emotional binding to this? I don't typically get attached to characters but golly did I get attached to many of the LiS characters, and when certain things transpired and we found out the truth about Rachel it got the feels going. BTS had the feels going too because we already know what happened. The biggest question I have is: has this game improved on any of my points? Has the paced picked up? Is the soundtrack on point? Is there a reason to get emotionally involved? Does Sean find out if he has powers? Will Daniel ever be able to get over the loss of his pup? Will their lives ever be the same? (Yeah that's right I am ending this post like an old Drama TV show) But seriously I gotta know, because I feel like I missed out on something that had everything going for it and that's being related to Life is Strange.

[mos4567]

I think so but I know we have a number of people here who probably feel rather strongly otherwise.


has this game improved on any of my points?
Has the paced picked up? I think each esposiode has felt more rushed then the last


Is the soundtrack on point?
I also know some have been rather upset with some of the song. Honestly, I have enjoyed the sound track but maybe I am just odd.

Is there a reason to get emotionally involved? Its all about your relationship with Daniel as a brother and care giver and if your not into in that, well your going to like this game about just is much as if you hated Chloe (Not that anyone actually hated Chloe that we know if, it is, at least in theory, possible ;))

Does Sean find out if he has powers? not yet but it keeps coming up so they are foreshadowing it.


Will Daniel ever be able to get over the loss of his pup? Nope.

Will their lives ever be the same? Nope.

[Scorpion242]

Episode 2 is worse than episode 1, nothing of consequence happens, it is the definition of a filler episode.

Episode 3 is better than both, but only because it kind of introduced season 1-like gameplay with a fixed place and a cast you can get to know.

Pacing: I feel it is still slow, but at least something happenend in ep3
Musik: Still not on the level of BtS or LiS1
Emotional Involment: Simply not there - I loved the first one and BtS and usually can get into a story but so far nothing in this game "clicked" I just do not care for them, not even after three episodes.

Originally posted by thaundeadone84:

But seriously I gotta know, because I feel like I missed out on something that had everything going for it and that's being related to Life is Strange.

Right now I don´t think you are missing out on much currently, a central complaint is that this does not feel like a Life is Strange game and I agree.

[thaundeadone84]

Thank y'all both for y'alls answers and for not berating me, I was reading some other posts earlier and found out a lot of people here aren't very nice to each other lol. I'll admit that it sucks about the whole soundtrack ordeal...like i mentioned i still listen to the soundtrack of LiS but nothing from LiS 2 really struck out at me, but I suppose I could try to give it another shot. As for the emotional involvement only being there for Daniel so far...that's a let down...I get he is a kid and doesn't know any better but sheesh I don't think I've ever met a kid like him before with or without his powers. As for the pup...I feel the Devs did dirty on that...I haven't heard of a way of saving it...so why include it if its gonna die? we have already seen how he gets when hes upset i.e. the hotel room. So, its not like we haven't already seen his dark side. I mean they could have Sean with or without powers truly...BTS was good even though you, Chloe, had no powers. I think thats also part of the problem too...I was so use of being able to use the time power whenever i wanted, thought admittedly i did not since it caused harm on Max. I haven't even really seen Daniel use it either...I get he is young and has no control...but that's the point right? I feel like objects should be flying around randomly when Daniel is in a safe area. I truly think that this game will end bad, and I do not in anyway mean bad as in a bad game just a bad ending. LiS gave you a choice...i suspect the same and you will either be sacrificing yourself, Sean, or Daniel...maybe I'm just ranting lol. I also wish they fleshed out the first episode...I wont lie when the whole cop situation happened....i didn't care. I wasn't emotionally involved with them because I barely knew them. Yet in LiS I had a rough idea on everyone from Max and Kate to Nathan and Veronica...again I might just be ranting...I really hope Ep. 4 and 5 are truly epic....I want to see this game succeed and be a part of it. They just need to add some more ingredients to hook everyone...I was hooked during the dream of Max's at the very beginning and wanted to know what was going on...again sorry just ranting.

Thanks again for the truthful replies and hopefully they will be able to turn LiS2 and get everyone on board!

[Bealla Donna]

Originally posted by thaundeadone84:

Thank y'all both for y'alls answers and for not berating me, I was reading some other posts earlier and found out a lot of people here aren't very nice to each other lol. I'll admit that it sucks about the whole soundtrack ordeal...like i mentioned i still listen to the soundtrack of LiS but nothing from LiS 2 really struck out at me, but I suppose I could try to give it another shot. As for the emotional involvement only being there for Daniel so far...that's a let down...I get he is a kid and doesn't know any better but sheesh I don't think I've ever met a kid like him before with or without his powers. As for the pup...I feel the Devs did dirty on that...I haven't heard of a way of saving it...so why include it if its gonna die? we have already seen how he gets when hes upset i.e. the hotel room. So, its not like we haven't already seen his dark side. I mean they could have Sean with or without powers truly...BTS was good even though you, Chloe, had no powers. I think thats also part of the problem too...I was so use of being able to use the time power whenever i wanted, thought admittedly i did not since it caused harm on Max. I haven't even really seen Daniel use it either...I get he is young and has no control...but that's the point right? I feel like objects should be flying around randomly when Daniel is in a safe area. I truly think that this game will end bad, and I do not in anyway mean bad as in a bad game just a bad ending. LiS gave you a choice...i suspect the same and you will either be sacrificing yourself, Sean, or Daniel...maybe I'm just ranting lol. I also wish they fleshed out the first episode...I wont lie when the whole cop situation happened....i didn't care. I wasn't emotionally involved with them because I barely knew them. Yet in LiS I had a rough idea on everyone from Max and Kate to Nathan and Veronica...again I might just be ranting...I really hope Ep. 4 and 5 are truly epic....I want to see this game succeed and be a part of it. They just need to add some more ingredients to hook everyone...I was hooked during the dream of Max's at the very beginning and wanted to know what was going on...again sorry just ranting.

Thanks again for the truthful replies and hopefully they will be able to turn LiS2 and get everyone on board!

Yeah, this forum isn't the best place for people who want to critique a game, but whether what you say is good or "bad" it's all still a valid opinion so don't worry about annoying others.
We'll just have to wait and see how this ends.

[My Name Is Mud]

The problem is that Life is Strange 2 sucks

Sorry to be so blunt but its easier that way

Life is Strange 1 felt organic while Life is Strange 2 feels hamfisted with political nonsense

When I play a game I don't play it to learn about the Devs political opinions

Life is Strange 1 dealt with issues without pandering to either side of the coin while Life is Strange 2 does the exact opposite

[Gromit]

I didn't get past episode 2, I quit halfway through due to boredom of doing pointless chores?

There's too much to critique in this game, I suppose we can hope it improves in the next 2 episodes but I still don't think it'll be enough for me to actually care about any of the characters.

[mos4567]

Originally posted by Doughnut Cop:

I didn't get past episode 2, I quit halfway through due to boredom of doing pointless chores?

There's too much to critique in this game, I suppose we can hope it improves in the next 2 episodes but I still don't think it'll be enough for me to actually care about any of the characters.

That's fair. The game is paced slowly and its also paced a bit oddly. Its sort of inverse of LiS. In Lis you can also undo choices quickly, in an effort to make it harder to that, A lot of choices have more of a multi-episode delay vs immediate impact. I'll put it this way, I didn't replay the game once until after eps three because I had no desire to and the result was impressive in my opinion, but is it it worth the long road? Its hard to say yet but it might be

[Gromit]

Originally posted by mos4567:

Originally posted by Doughnut Cop:

I didn't get past episode 2, I quit halfway through due to boredom of doing pointless chores?

There's too much to critique in this game, I suppose we can hope it improves in the next 2 episodes but I still don't think it'll be enough for me to actually care about any of the characters.

That's fair. The game is paced slowly and its also paced a bit oddly. Its sort of inverse of LiS. In Lis you can also undo choices quickly, in an effort to make it harder to that, A lot of choices have more of a multi-episode delay vs immediate impact. I'll put it this way, I didn't replay the game once until after eps three because I had no desire to and the result was impressive in my opinion, but is it it worth the long road? Its hard to say yet but it might be

I mean the original was also somewhat slow paced in a lot of areas, but it was a good type of slow pace you enjoy and interact with characters and build on relationships, which I think is this games biggest downfall.

In the slow moments of LIS2, instead of character interaction and building relationships, you have one character to interact with which is Daniel (lets be honest interacting with a 9 year old isn't all that fun 24/7) and any other characters have very very short relationships and really nothing to build on. I think most of the fanbase of LIS2 would have LOVED to have lyla accompany us on the journey, hell even going to the party in ep one would've been a bit more entertaining than just walking... doing chores with seemingly no interactions inbetween is just boring. (LIS getting ready in the morning is quite an interactive journey in itself, and it's fun and relaxing)

Both games are slow paced, but LIS2 does a poor job at making the slow paced areas enjoyable which they should be. Being slow paced means relaxing, not being bored.

[mos4567]

Originally posted by Doughnut Cop:

Originally posted by mos4567:

That's fair. The game is paced slowly and its also paced a bit oddly. Its sort of inverse of LiS. In Lis you can also undo choices quickly, in an effort to make it harder to that, A lot of choices have more of a multi-episode delay vs immediate impact. I'll put it this way, I didn't replay the game once until after eps three because I had no desire to and the result was impressive in my opinion, but is it it worth the long road? Its hard to say yet but it might be

I mean the original was also somewhat slow paced in a lot of areas, but it was a good type of slow pace you enjoy and interact with characters and build on relationships, which I think is this games biggest downfall.

In the slow moments of LIS2, instead of character interaction and building relationships, you have one character to interact with which is Daniel (lets be honest interacting with a 9 year old isn't all that fun 24/7) and any other characters have very very short relationships and really nothing to build on. I think most of the fanbase of LIS2 would have LOVED to have lyla accompany us on the journey, hell even going to the party in ep one would've been a bit more entertaining than just walking... doing chores with seemingly no interactions inbetween is just boring. (LIS getting ready in the morning is quite an interactive journey in itself, and it's fun and relaxing)

Both games are slow paced, but LIS2 does a poor job at making the slow paced areas enjoyable which they should be. Being slow paced means relaxing, not being bored.

Gotcha.


Yah it is a questionable choice to do each episode you are in a very different environment. It add an crazy amount of work that could have otherwise gone to something really cool like more dynamic and open game play and adding more people to the party like Lyla. They could have been set in all woods and maybe they hike to Canada or something idk. So it has real drawbacks but is also has been cool see all of that art work

. Its possible that they hope to not waste all of that work and maybe we are like visiting the different settings of future possible games. Or maybe not.

But since they did maybe it was just too much work to do something like adding Lyla from the start of the game and have the level of complexity to the learned behaviors and AI all while doing 5 full games worth of assets.

It is cool to realize just how much you can actually impact Daniels behavior and demeanor in huge and subtle ways and how you can develop strategic to get him to do cretin specific things in game. Yah its limited and no you can't somehow escape the plot of the game

Personally I have enjoyed the exploring and meetings lots of unique characters but its a highly subjective thing and so I don't think your wrong to think its boring.

[TreeTrunk]

Yes it has gotten better, ep3 gave me similar ominous feelings I had from the first season, there was a constant slight feeling of dread, not knowing what was going it happen next, which made you want to stick with and interact with the NPCs in the game, all to culminate in a fitting climax.

Though, the amount of time between episodes is just too long, and is the main reason Im not as attached to this season as I was the 1st season.

[Igris]

Nope. It hasn't , Daniel is still being a whiny ♥♥♥♥♥ who will never understand the situation we are under. It's like he has autism

[darkdisciple1313]

Daniel still hasn't been taken into custody by government officials (aka Men In Black) in those sneaky special helicopters, where he ends up in a secret facility and undergoes rigorous, but necessary, testing for the rest of his days, all to protect the American people, God bless us every one.

So, in a word: no.

[thaundeadone84]

Sorry been busy IRL...it seems there is a very small middle ground and that being is that it might turn around and be good...but from what I have read it looks like a majority of people have said no...in all about 3 yes's, 5 no's, and 3 middle ground answers...I guess ill just wait...not like i can do anything else since i preordered and will get the rest of the episodes regardless lol

[Max Caulfield]

Originally posted by Max Caufield:

Originally posted by thaundeadone84:

Sorry been busy IRL...it seems there is a very small middle ground and that being is that it might turn around and be good...but from what I have read it looks like a majority of people have said no...in all about 3 yes's, 5 no's, and 3 middle ground answers...I guess ill just wait...not like i can do anything else since i preordered and will get the rest of the episodes regardless lol

11 total answers is an incredibly small sample size of people compared with the total number of people who have downloaded the game (and not commented here). Honestly, I would take the results gathered from this thread with a grain of salt. Also, people who are not enjoying the game are more likely to complain here than those who actually do enjoy it (and do other things in their real lives besides play video games all day long). I for one am enjoying this game a lot, and am glad that I stumbled across the Life is Strange franchise... :-)

Edit: And yes, I think the original LiS is better than LiS2. That being said, I still give LiS2 a thumbs up.

[mcramer451]

Yes, ppl in general do tend to make a complaint known vs a person that will make a compliment known


Yes, it's a small sample size.


No one here is trying to correlate that this is a general percentage IRL - although it does seem a coincidence that the numbers are playing out that way.


It feels like even some of those that kinda like it, have issues with it, and that's a telling thing. No, not every game is perfect - before someone helpfully jumps in to point that out - but the topic was and is, has it gotten better?


Doesn't seem so.


I would love to be proven 100% wrong in my opinion the next 2 episodes, but from the storyline / plot - it doesn't seem so. Althoguh you're opinion that the game is fine/great/excellent is valid too - it seems in general even ppl that like the game are posting things they wish were better....