Warhammer 40,000: Inquisitor - Martyr

Warhammer 40,000: Inquisitor - Martyr

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Don't Play This Season, Seasonal Bosses are Broken
There's a 1.5% chance that a Seasonal Mission will have a specific boss, so we will have to do an average of 67 missions to get ANY and ALL of the bosses, right from the start. In other words, by the time players have done 67 Seasonal Missions, half of them will have completed this objective. This math has already been established by others in this thread.

I have rotated over 900 Seasonal Missions now, and still not gotten the Black Legion Seasonal Boss. The chances of this are [(1-0.015)^900]/100, or 0.000124%. And yet here I am.

NeoCore, you ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up.

TIP: For those looking to farm Seasonal Missions, the best way to do so is grinding out Valorous Heart runs. It takes about 20 Seasonal Boss group kills to rotate a mission. The servers lag out on me after 3 missions, so you may need to restart your game every so often to avoid crashes. Not everyone complains about this lag issue, because not everyone is as good as me (the volume of kills you get is directly related to how quickly you crash the servers.)
Last edited by Fair Play Creative; Jan 11, 2023 @ 4:48pm
Originally posted by proba 1 2 3:
Copied from the patch notes of an update that will be released later this week:

"Increased the Ultimate Harbingers' spawn chance from 15% to 50% on Seasonal Missions"
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Wilfrid Wong Dec 22, 2022 @ 9:24pm 
By right, for each seasonal mission there is a 15% chance to spawn an ultimate Harbinger.

By my calculation we need on average 201 seasonal missions to complete this objective. But luck also plays a part. It doesn’t matter what level is the mission.

I have a friend who is level 70, play seasonal missions and hasn’t encountered a single ultimate Harbinger. I played 20 hrs now level 60+ and only have 1 out of 10.

What’s your played time by the way? At least you have 5. But it will get harder.

What a seasonal objective.
Misfit Dec 23, 2022 @ 1:51am 
my post from another thread:
my favorite is the boss season task.
i have a lvl 100 battle sister, only task left was the bosses at 7/10. made a new char for the rest of the grind, because the sister was finished, would be boring to play her further.

now my psyker is level 87 and im at 8/10 bosses and im already "cheesing" it by doing valorous heart all the time to reroll missions quick.

now at 8/10 its a pain to even get the right mission to roll, just to be disappointed when you realize its 10 times in a row a mission without a boss.
Last edited by Misfit; Dec 23, 2022 @ 1:53am
Wilfrid Wong Dec 23, 2022 @ 2:18am 
Originally posted by Misfit:
my post from another thread:
my favorite is the boss season task.
i have a lvl 100 battle sister, only task left was the bosses at 7/10. made a new char for the rest of the grind, because the sister was finished, would be boring to play her further.

now my psyker is level 87 and im at 8/10 bosses and im already "cheesing" it by doing valorous heart all the time to reroll missions quick.

now at 8/10 its a pain to even get the right mission to roll, just to be disappointed when you realize its 10 times in a row a mission without a boss.

Thanks for sharing. What's your season 6 played time if I may ask? If you are at 8/10, you would need on average another 101 seasonal missions to spawn the last 2.

I am still at 1/10.
Misfit Dec 23, 2022 @ 2:28am 
80h on the sister
and 18h on the psyker
and i actively try to do just the task.
valorous heart until i roll the fitting seasonal mission, do the mission and realize its again no boss spawn, cry, repeat.
Schalimah Dec 23, 2022 @ 2:46am 
Originally posted by Misfit:
80h on the sister
and 18h on the psyker
and i actively try to do just the task.
valorous heart until i roll the fitting seasonal mission, do the mission and realize its again no boss spawn, cry, repeat.
Oof, that is rough.
It took me 58 hours on my seasonal character to complete it.
I am getting the feeling that I got lucky AF.

Here are some more detailed tips:
- watch your seasonal mission bar during VH runs.
- either abort mission once you fill it up or shortly before you would fill it up again (eg. 1550/1600). you will most likely get the remaining points while running the seasonal mission, having anotherone ready to go as soon as you finish.
- If VH tends to crash the game for you after a few runs, restart the game every two or three runs.
Misfit Dec 23, 2022 @ 3:02am 
yeah, you got it pretty quick.
only 9 people so far have finished the season.
Wilfrid Wong Dec 23, 2022 @ 3:06am 
Originally posted by Schalimah:
Originally posted by Misfit:
80h on the sister
and 18h on the psyker
and i actively try to do just the task.
valorous heart until i roll the fitting seasonal mission, do the mission and realize its again no boss spawn, cry, repeat.
Oof, that is rough.
It took me 58 hours on my seasonal character to complete it.
I am getting the feeling that I got lucky AF.

Here are some more detailed tips:
- watch your seasonal mission bar during VH runs.
- either abort mission once you fill it up or shortly before you would fill it up again (eg. 1550/1600). you will most likely get the remaining points while running the seasonal mission, having anotherone ready to go as soon as you finish.
- If VH tends to crash the game for you after a few runs, restart the game every two or three runs.

Wow that is very quick. On average, how long does it take for you to generate one seasonal mission?

PS. What is a VH run? And why do you need to abort a mission? I thought the escalation point can exceed the required number to generate a seasonal mission and no point is wasted?
Misfit Dec 23, 2022 @ 3:14am 
the valorous heart mission is under special locations in the mission list and generates constant respawning season enemies, you can run it like he said until you get a new mission and get close to the next one.
aborting is no big deal, you get the loot for every 500 mission points anyway and the mission end reward is basically nothing.
you just abort it if you are about to overshoot the goal, so at 1500+ seasonal points its better to get out, or you would roll a new mission at 1600.
if your lucky and roll a seasonal mission you need you have the next one ready right after that.
Last edited by Misfit; Dec 23, 2022 @ 3:21am
Yuxuan Dec 23, 2022 @ 3:17am 
if you want to generate seasonal missions fast farm valorous heart; you dont get drops but you do get the bar filled up VERY FAST
Schalimah Dec 23, 2022 @ 4:06am 
Originally posted by Wilfrid Wong:
Wow that is very quick. On average, how long does it take for you to generate one seasonal mission?

PS. What is a VH run? And why do you need to abort a mission? I thought the escalation point can exceed the required number to generate a seasonal mission and no point is wasted?
It takes me about 4-5 minutes including loading screens to get a new seasonal mission.
VH = Valorous Heart
Lets say you need 800 points to generate a seasonal mission.
Once you hit 1600 the game rerolls your seasonal mission at +1 level.
You don't generate an actual second mission you can run later.
There will always only be one seasonal mission.
Since the boss spawn chance is a flat 15%, there is no reason to level up the seasonal mission.
I also kept deleting the loot boxes from VH as opening them takes way to much time.
Up to 6 or 7 bosses I was doing this in coop.
Basically everyone was doing VH and then we grouped up to run all the seasonals we generated together.
After it was down to 3 bosses, I simply abandoned any seasonal mission that wasn't for the right faction and kept running VH.
Wilfrid Wong Dec 23, 2022 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by Schalimah:
Originally posted by Wilfrid Wong:
Wow that is very quick. On average, how long does it take for you to generate one seasonal mission?

PS. What is a VH run? And why do you need to abort a mission? I thought the escalation point can exceed the required number to generate a seasonal mission and no point is wasted?
It takes me about 4-5 minutes including loading screens to get a new seasonal mission.
VH = Valorous Heart
Lets say you need 800 points to generate a seasonal mission.
Once you hit 1600 the game rerolls your seasonal mission at +1 level.
You don't generate an actual second mission you can run later.
There will always only be one seasonal mission.
Since the boss spawn chance is a flat 15%, there is no reason to level up the seasonal mission.
I also kept deleting the loot boxes from VH as opening them takes way to much time.
Up to 6 or 7 bosses I was doing this in coop.
Basically everyone was doing VH and then we grouped up to run all the seasonals we generated together.
After it was down to 3 bosses, I simply abandoned any seasonal mission that wasn't for the right faction and kept running VH.

Thanks for sharing buddy. That’s really helpful. Happy holiday!
Safarel Dec 23, 2022 @ 2:14pm 
SIX mission in a row i get seasonal Nurgle mission (which boss i eliminate very long time ago, so it's completely useless for me), it is all you must know about bad luck
Wilfrid Wong Dec 23, 2022 @ 5:33pm 
Originally posted by Safarel:
SIX mission in a row i get seasonal Nurgle mission (which boss i eliminate very long time ago, so it's completely useless for me), it is all you must know about bad luck

Luck plays a part. But it is also about the maths behind probability. For example, if you have 1/10, on average you would need 12 missions to get to 2/10. And if you have 9/10, on average you would need 67 missions to get the last seasonal boss count.

PS. Do you mean you have 6 of the same seasonal bosses consecutively from 6 seasonal missions? If so, that’s some really bad luck!
Last edited by Wilfrid Wong; Dec 23, 2022 @ 5:41pm
Misfit Dec 24, 2022 @ 2:27am 
i finally did it, but its a ridiculous task. Its near impossible to do that during normal play.
As written above, i had to abuse the valorous heart mission heavily and it still took me forever.
especially the last few bosses are a pain to even get the right mission.
if you would do that with normal missions you probably have the whole roster of chars leveled to 100.
Its just pure RNG and the pool of bosses and missions is way to big, even with a higher spawn chance it would be annoying, but 15% is just crazy.
they really didnt think this task through.
Congrats Misfit. I am trying my hardest, but my game keeps freezing like every 3rd mission. Only 3 Harbingers left... Farming as much as I can...
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Date Posted: Dec 22, 2022 @ 9:01pm
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