Warhammer 40,000: Inquisitor - Martyr

Warhammer 40,000: Inquisitor - Martyr

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Arhesia Jun 5, 2018 @ 4:28am
Radical VS Puritan path
Hi guys !

I think I didn't really understand something about Radical or Puritan paths.

When I checked it, I saw Radical is warp damages oriented, but a lot of weapons don't do warp damages, same with a fire Psyker for exemple. So, did I get it wrong or is it only useful for warp damages focus builds?

Puritan path seems to be more like warp damages reduction, which seems to be more interesting.

Thanks in advance to tell me if I didn't understand it well and if so, to explain me :)
Last edited by Arhesia; Jun 5, 2018 @ 4:28am
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✪ megapull  [developer] Jun 5, 2018 @ 4:43am 
I have received reports that it can indeed be unbalanced, so we will wait a bit for global usage statistics to flow in and balance it out as best as we can.
Nemesis Jun 5, 2018 @ 4:43am 
Apart from what you have mentioned it comes down to ether your Inquistor (Lore wise) uses xeno tech and powers of the warp to do thier work ( Radical ) or is your Inquistor all about the Imperial Creed ( Puritan )
Ancient Jun 5, 2018 @ 4:48am 
From what I've gathered, the Radical Path is supposed to delve into us using the weapons of the enemy. I'd assume from that notion that after choosing the path we would be able to find warp-touched blades and guns that have their standard physical or heat damage replaced with or bolstered by a warp damage component.

Otherwise, you're right. The Radical Path appears to only be decent for psykers that do a ton of warp damage.

We won't know for a few more hours if the Paths we've been able to see thus far are even the same. They may have totally reworked the Radical/Puritan trees comparred to what we could see in the beta as well as have added some itemization subsystems to support them.
Irrelevant Jun 5, 2018 @ 4:56am 
I remember that I saw a radical path looked at the numbers and forgott all about it in an instant.
Kel'Ithra Jun 5, 2018 @ 4:58am 
I would assume that the paths should also affect what type of weapons drop. Making it more likely for Chaos/warp/xenos based weapons/armors to be acquired by taking the radical path. While more powerful or unique variations of the imperial weapons/armors etc drop when going puritan.

Lots of future potential with this if done properly. Radical being allowed to acquire Xenos retinue while puritan limited to imperial etc.

But yeah radical is pointless in its current state.. lots of potential features missing.
Last edited by Kel'Ithra; Jun 5, 2018 @ 4:59am
SMFScar Jun 5, 2018 @ 5:01am 
Originally posted by IceTitan:
I would assume that the paths should also affect what type of weapons drop. Making it more likely for Chaos/warp/xenos based weapons/armors to be acquired by taking the radical path. While more powerful or unique variations of the imperial weapons/armors etc drop when going puritan.

Lots of future potential with this if done properly. Radical being allowed to acquire Xenos retinue while puritan limited to imperial etc..
Not sure if that will be ingame but there was unique gear for radical and puritan planed
Irrelevant Jun 5, 2018 @ 5:04am 
Originally posted by SMFScar:
Not sure if that will be ingame but there was unique gear for radical and puritan planed

the last Perk of each tree get you daemonic or holy enhancements, no idea what those are to be honest but at least something is there.
Arhesia Jun 5, 2018 @ 5:05am 
Originally posted by ✪ megapull:
I have received reports that it can indeed be unbalanced, so we will wait a bit for global usage statistics to flow in and balance it out as best as we can.
Thanks for your answer Megapull

I just hope if you end up modifying it, we'll get a way to respec and change path for us who are more oriented on stats and efficiency than story/lore/RP oriented ones.
Imperialus Jun 5, 2018 @ 5:10am 
One thing that might make the Radical path more interesting for the Assassin and Crusader is if it opened up the possibility of equipping crazy xenos weapons and the like.
Irrelevant Jun 5, 2018 @ 5:12am 
Originally posted by TLFT Song of Roland:
One thing that might make the Radical path more interesting for the Assassin and Crusader is if it opened up the possibility of equipping crazy xenos weapons and the like.
If the whole tree is ♥♥♥♥ for your class and everything is gated behind the last perk I'll puke ^^.
Arhesia Jun 5, 2018 @ 5:18am 
Originally posted by Irrelevant:
Originally posted by TLFT Song of Roland:
One thing that might make the Radical path more interesting for the Assassin and Crusader is if it opened up the possibility of equipping crazy xenos weapons and the like.
If the whole tree is ♥♥♥♥ for your class and everything is gated behind the last perk I'll puke ^^.
+1
Imperialus Jun 5, 2018 @ 5:21am 
Originally posted by Irrelevant:
Originally posted by TLFT Song of Roland:
One thing that might make the Radical path more interesting for the Assassin and Crusader is if it opened up the possibility of equipping crazy xenos weapons and the like.
If the whole tree is ♥♥♥♥ for your class and everything is gated behind the last perk I'll puke ^^.

I was thinking that they could advance it similar to how weapons unlock over levels, but otherwise you're right.

They could also add an increasing % of warp damage to conventional weapons as you get deeper into the tree.
sgegmund Jun 5, 2018 @ 5:48am 
heretic
noun [ C ] UK ​ /ˈher.ə.tɪk/ US ​ /ˈher.ə.tɪk/

- a person who is guilty of heresy
syn. Radical Inquisitor
RhodosGuard Jun 5, 2018 @ 6:32am 
Well.
I think it's already a rather,.. bad? design choice to attach perks to your alignment. Even more so, if they are that specific. Faction/Alignment boni should be general.
Like one being offensive while the other is defensive.
Not discriminating your build.
Because what that does is simply making you choose between choosing a side for story reason and not picking up the obvious advantages they bring, or picking them JUST for the advantages.

If the boni have to be so specific, they at least should apply universally. Like "transforming/transmuting" physical/heat damage to warp damage, if it already has to buff warp.

I mean, I'm gonna play a Warp-Damage based AoE Psyker as my first character anyway, but I still think it will feel pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥ to not be able to utilize the boni of the tree, or having to pick puritan on all other characters to get the boni that actually help me.

In the end, you may ignore them, i guess. It's just a really questionable choice.
I crash at random Jun 25, 2018 @ 2:01am 
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