Symbiosis

[Tiny Timmy Tokyo]

Did a search, didn't find anything on this Psyker Mastery. Symbiosis says it "Extends the effect of the skill to nearby allies as well" but apparently it excludes the caster.

Not sure if this is a tooltip error or an oversight.

[Katitoff]

I'll be bumping this one, because its important.

What is wrong here? Skill tooltip or is the mastery bugged since forever?

[Tiny Timmy Tokyo]

Yeah and apparently whenever it's brought up it's ignored in favor of arguing that it's overpowered to be able to buff your teammates. This community is not the smartest.

[Psojed]

I read on the forum that you get the effects, you just don't see the buff icon. Can't test, I'm level 8. Can you check that? :)

[Teep]

I can confirm you do not get the effects without seeing the buff icon. Tested it 2 mins ago. And I do believe Symbiosis shouldn't be in the game as it'd be way too potent. Well, I'd abuse it, but still.

[Irrelevant]

I allways know you like to abuse! *sniff*
Well yeah, if psyker don't get the nerfbat treatment pretty hard everyone who don't play psyker.. well... own problem ^^.

[X^^]

Originally posted by TinyTimmyTokyo:

Did a search, didn't find anything on this Psyker Mastery. Symbiosis says it "Extends the effect of the skill to nearby allies as well" but apparently it excludes the caster.

Not sure if this is a tooltip error or an oversight.

Yeah noticed it before.
Some other masteries are not working either. and some powers/masteries have the wrong discription compared to effect.


For instance, the power Precognition:

Says it geves 100% dmg reduction over 60 secs....every hit taken reducing the duration by 5 secs.


The effect is actually, 100% dmg reduction over 60...but every hit taken,,,reduces the effect by 5%...


as for the symbiosis it doesnt affect the caster. It will only affect the ally, or maybe allies.

However it's quite a sacrifice to use one of your cooldowns, on someone else, and get nothing out of it...

[Irrelevant]

Do you use the english client? Precog states that you loose 5% dr every time hit. Symbiosis states that it spreads the effect to the next neares ally.... spreds... not trasnfere. The skill is bugged but if symbioses will be implemented like the tooltip tells every endgame group will consist out of at least 2 psykers who are there to buff the other 2 players.
It's pretty sad in my eyes.

[Teep]

#deletesymbiosis

[Tiny Timmy Tokyo]

So there's already no healer class or healing ability, which is fine but now you don't want any teammate buffs or any type of support class? You may as well just play alone then.

[Teep]

As Irrelevant said, if Symbiosis works, you'll force the optimised endgame group of 4 to have at least 1, probably 2 symbiosis pyskers, with likely 1 tank and another dps psyker. Which isn't good for balance and class representation, as you'd want every class to be equally viable.
Having only 1 support class (which is also the best dps class) heavily skews towards most players playing psyker. Doesn't have anything to do with playing alone, it's about keeping classes balanced.

[Tiny Timmy Tokyo]

It's a silly argument. There's three classes in the game and you're worried people might want one of those classes in their team. If there is issues, they will balance it. But trying to completely erase the idea of a support class is backwards thinking.

[Irrelevant]

We are in a game with only one competetive thing and that's the leaderboard. If they don't get the balancing right there is no need for 2 out of 3 classes right now if you want to play effective. Sure the "all fun duuuhde!" crowed can say "play what you like!" but in no way will this help at the moment. I would angry if I grind like there is no tomorrow and do everything the best I can and I simply can compete because there is abroken class ingame.
I hope the will answer questions regarding balancing at the AMA tomorrow or I will get bonkers ^^.

[Teep]

Originally posted by TinyTimmyTokyo:

It's a silly argument. There's three classes in the game and you're worried people might want one of those classes in their team. If there is issues, they will balance it. But trying to completely erase the idea of a support class is backwards thinking.

Symbiosis, even in its current iteration, is already OP and would require an immediate nerf - if we had endgame group content in beta. I'm not saying I don't want to see a support class, I'm saying it should be balanced before fixed. Even buffing allies for 20% of the buff value would still make it mandatory in any group. It would need to have some kind of significant drawback added.

[Irrelevant]

If it spreads cut the benefits in half for every person. Still OP because the psyker can ramp up a lot of buffs. I would realy like some buff skills for other classes armors as well because right now noone can stack dmg buffs and DR buffs like the psyker.

[MrPeters]

Bump because either change the skill or change the description.