Warhammer 40,000: Inquisitor - Martyr

Warhammer 40,000: Inquisitor - Martyr

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snork Jun 6, 2018 @ 1:36pm
Are Inquisitors Space Marines?
As in, are they immortal (aside from bolter fire) like space marines? I alwways thought they were a branch of the space marines. But they are so......tiny...compared to space marines. They still slice things and guns thhings down like space marines. Why are they so tiny compared to the space marines?
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Merdrah Jun 6, 2018 @ 2:23pm 
Originally posted by snork:
Ok. So physically they are not in the same category as Space Marines. What about....politically? As in to the Adeptus Astartes answer to them or have to obey their commands during an inquisition or purge? (Thanks for the first link, but unfortunately I do not speak German.)
Most Space Marines chapters will answer to the Inquisition. Though most are free roaming organizations. They operate independantly for the most part.
Edit: Space Marines are similar to Militias.
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Ska_Hansen Jun 6, 2018 @ 2:28pm 
Good Books about the Inquisition are Eisenhorn and Ravenor.

Voelkar Jun 6, 2018 @ 2:29pm 
Originally posted by Captain_Kaiju:
Originally posted by snork:
Ok. So physically they are not in the same category as Space Marines. What about....politically? As in to the Adeptus Astartes answer to them or have to obey their commands during an inquisition or purge? (Thanks for the first link, but unfortunately I do not speak German.)
From my minor knowledge of the lore, Inquisitor's basically have near-limitless authority. Even to those of the Astartes (Space Marines), unless said Astartes are under the command of someone with even higher clearance than an Inquisitor.

Though that's mostly through context clues I'm getting through the early parts of the story here. They are on the same side, though their methods can differ greatly.
While inquisitors do have a big political influence they cant command a Space Marine. Imagine it like this: A politician with a lot of influence in todays time can not tell a soldier to do certain tasks for him. However, if the high ranking members of the inquisition tell a chapter to do some things for them they better listen or expect excomunication
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Saor Jun 6, 2018 @ 2:29pm 
Originally posted by snork:
Ok. So physically they are not in the same category as Space Marines. What about....politically? As in to the Adeptus Astartes answer to them or have to obey their commands during an inquisition or purge? (Thanks for the first link, but unfortunately I do not speak German.)

In theory yes the Inquisition can requisition SM units and chapters, Inquisitors have near limitless power , they have the power to declare entire SM chapters or entire planets "excommunicate Traitoris".

However in practise SM chapters are autonomous and answer to no one outside their own chapter masters, however many will happily lend assistance to the inquisition when called apon , some others such as the space wolves would likly drag their feet and do all they could to avoid rendering any meaningfull assistence
Brother PaciFist Jun 6, 2018 @ 2:33pm 
Yeah Inquisitors have full power over space marine chapters. If the space marines chapter is not the space wolves. That did not play out that well. Story arc of Months of shame.

To avoid a full blown war with space marine chapters, inquisitors are best advised to ask very polite, if they want to borrow some space marine assets.
FlameWar Jun 6, 2018 @ 2:54pm 
Well, to clarify some of the diffferences between the Spacies and Inquisitors:

Basically an inquisitor has the right to command anyone outside the inquisition (and to some extend the church and the adeptus telepathicus and similar psyker organisations).
However, theoretically the Inquisitor has to have a reason equal to or better than whatever the person/spacy/whatever is doing otherwise, and with space marines, or groups of space marines, that is usualy a pretty high bar to cross.
If a spacie, or warmaster, general, whatever decide to refuse to help, or do help but with protest, they can appeal to the inquisition to basically have an inquest to check if the Inquisitors doing is right/proper, and if the inquisitor is wrong he can be punished.

The more important organisations/roles therefore generaly have longer agreements with the inquisition to fullfil needed roles and clear stuff up.
E.g. the ordo Xenos has an agreemenet with the space marines as a whole, where every chapter sends the occasional marines to the deathwatch chapter. That chapter exists solely to serve the Ordo Xenos and it's inquisitors, so if a Xenos Inqquisitor ever needs a Space marine for something, he'll likely just grab one of the Deathwatch.

*******Small spoilers of the first 8 missions******
Similarly to the game, as it's explained there that Gaius Thorne's chapter works for the Caligari enclave of the Inquisition. Hence why Thorne accompanied kolsterheim, and now hangs aorund at your ship. Working for Inquisitors i nthe Caligari Sector is literally his job.
Another example would be the Captain of the ship, who has some longer agreement with the Character to work as support/transport for the inquisitor and his/her retinue.
Merdrah Jun 6, 2018 @ 2:55pm 
Inquistors are more likely to call upon the Battle Sisters. Unless they think the durabilty of the Astartes are needed. Though they can call on the Gray Knights instead.
FlameWar Jun 6, 2018 @ 2:59pm 
Originally posted by Merdrah:
Inquistors are more likely to call upon the Battle Sisters. Unless they think the durabilty of the Astartes are needed. Though they can call on the Gray Knights instead.

Actually both the Adepta Sororitas and the grey Knights are fairly Ordo Specific.
Just like the Deathwatch is the personal Spacie army of the ordo Xenos, the grey knights work pretty exclusively for the ordo Malleus.
The Sororitas work mostly for the ordo Hereticus, with some work for the ordo Malleus if opportunity arises, and almost no interactions at all with the Ordo Xenos, unless maybe there's an alien cult/invasionon a planet that just happens to have a Chapter militant of the Sororitas on it.
Voelkar Jun 6, 2018 @ 3:02pm 
Originally posted by Merdrah:
Inquistors are more likely to call upon the Battle Sisters. Unless they think the durabilty of the Astartes are needed. Though they can call on the Gray Knights instead.
For the best results always call the battle sisters first and then call the grey knights and make the sororitas look just a little heretical
Brother PaciFist Jun 6, 2018 @ 3:03pm 
Call for exterminatus ask questions later. You have to be absolutely safe.
Delriel Jun 6, 2018 @ 3:16pm 
Grey Knights are only used by the Ordo Malleus when their presence is a must. They are too valuable and too rare to have them wandering around.

Most of the time Inquisitors just use IG or call for the Battle Sisters. Depending on the menace they might call SMs (like the Deathwatch on xenos cases).

Also unlike on the game, most inquisitors tend to send their acolites first to gather information and if possible solve the situation by themselves. An inquisitor's presence means that ♥♥♥♥ has hit the fan.

Heresy is everywhere and an Inquisitor cant bother with each and every hint of heresy by himself thats why he send his acolites (and at the same time if acolites survive and perform their duties properly they might be promoted to Interrogator)
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Captain_Kaiju Jun 6, 2018 @ 3:52pm 
Speaking of Battle Sisters, any chance we can get one playable as a class eventually? Or is that lore breaking?

We need more females in 40K games, I get theres charm to a scruffy cyborg guy in heavy armor but the Assassin is such a nice change of pace.
Lead Paintchips Jun 6, 2018 @ 4:02pm 
Originally posted by Captain_Kaiju:
Speaking of Battle Sisters, any chance we can get one playable as a class eventually? Or is that lore breaking?

We need more females in 40K games, I get theres charm to a scruffy cyborg guy in heavy armor but the Assassin is such a nice change of pace.


From what I know of the lore, that's highly improbable. I'm personally looking into getting the game, so I don't know the storyline of it, but generally if there's a reason for an Inquisitor, then it's above the paygrade of the Battle Sisters chapters. They can be called in to help, but they would be in a similar position as the Imperial Guard, under the direction of the Inquisitor.
Saor Jun 6, 2018 @ 4:06pm 
Originally posted by Captain_Kaiju:

We need more females in 40K games,

No we dont , everything is fine as is
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