Licensed game that can't even get the basics right

[The Shoes of God]

The most powerful force of the Imperium are the Adeptus Costudes, not Inquisitors.

[Irrelevant]

Bah they are to localy bound to be a force to recon with. Soritas Silentium give me the chills ^^.

[Harukage]

Nah. Custodes do not wield authority. All of their priviliges are restricted to the Golden Palace. They are powerfull fighting force, but nothing more.

[Furaxis]

pfft strongest force doesnt matter....at the end of the day they will know the comforting embrace of papa nurgle when they pass on

[Imperialus]

If you're going to get pedantic it's *Custodes*, not Costudes

Besides, it all depends on how you view 'power'. If the entire weight of the Imperial Guard were to be thrown against the Custodes I know who I'd be putting my money on in a long fight and they're bloody humans with flashlights and pie tin armour.

As a 'force' the Inquisition is basically the most powerful group within the Imperium. I mean theoretically, they are within their jurisdiction to shanghai entire Imperial Guard regiments, Space Marine chapters, or battlefleets into their command.

[Harukage]

Oh, if you are going into military power, custodes are just 8000 strong force. It is literally nothing in the whole picture.

[StephBx]

Do not forget that the Inquisition autority is second to the Imperor only. Meaning it can technically take command of 'any' imperial ressource it may have usage to accomplish its function. Dixit the Games Workshop Inquisitor game Rulebook from 2001. The Adeptus Custodes is included as well as any branch of the Imperium.

[Klim]

Why Neocore should follow lore?

[Zerschmetterling]

Maybe Copper Dave means at a personal fighting prowess level, then yeah, a custodes, or even a normal spacemarine would wipe the floor with a inquisitor.
No chance in hell for your dude or dudette to mow them down, like you do in the game.
But i think that's just a chase of story and gameplay segregation.

[Irrelevant]

Originally posted by vigierstephane:

Do not forget that the Inquisition autority is second to the Imperor only. Meaning it can technically take command of 'any' imperial ressource it may have usage to accomplish its function. Dixit the Games Workshop Inquisitor game Rulebook from 2001. The Adeptus Custodes is included as well as any branch of the Imperium.

Custodes is only included if the security of he emperor isn't endangered. If there is the slightesd hint that talking with an inquisitor would endanger the emperor they can tell him to scram and bother someone else. If they think the emperor will not be properly protected they are above all.

[FlameWar]

Originally posted by Zerschmetterling:

Maybe Copper Dave means at a personal fighting prowess level, then yeah, a custodes, or even a normal spacemarine would wipe the floor with a inquisitor.
No chance in hell for your dude or dudette to mow them down, like you do in the game.
But i think that's just a chase of story and gameplay segregation.

Well, that's also one of the bas eproblems of the Space marines. They are always said to be so much better at fighting and so much sturdier, and they are, but only to an extend. A Single guardsmen that hit's their head with a frag missile, or a longlas, or similar, will still take the space marine otu just fine.
Yes, they are walking tanks. But whiel tnaks are immuen to most small arms, there's plenty of weaons in 40k lore pretty much dedicated to taking out tanks which work just fine to shred space Marines as well.

And considering that Inquisitors are highly trained (unlike the normal guardsman), and have acess to pretty much all the toys, they are easily a match for Space Marines.

[Deuteronomy]

Yay for nerdy discussions regarding Warhammer lore.
Meh for steam-typical forum-toxicity via "can't even get the basics right".

[Dex]

Originally posted by Deuteronomy:

Yay for nerdy discussions regarding Warhammer lore.
Meh for steam-typical forum-toxicity via "can't even get the basics right".

Yea, this could have been a fun conversation, but it feels like a typical "REEEEEEE" Steam forum rage.

[Harukage]

Even basic guardsmen squad can take specal and heavy weapons. And most of them kill marines just fine. But the thing is there are also specialised special/heavy weapons squads, snipers, veteran squads, tempestus squads, subhuman auxilia, and tanks of various sizes. That is not a favorable engagement at all for space marines.
Space marines are tough, and have a lot of shock value, but they are best deployed as a spearhead, or a dagger striking at a weak point. Positional warfare and prolonged campaigns. Nah, not unless there is a lot of other troops around.
That is basicaly why Imperial Army was created in the days of the Great Crusade. Legions branched out in many directions and lost the advantage of concentrated force. They had lost numerical advantage, and they were not always superior in terms of physiology/augmentation. So Solar Auxilia was drafted from Sol system and reinforced the Legions. And then even Solar Auxilia was not able to cover all the fronts, so Imperium started to draft Imperialis militia regiments from other systems.
Custodes have the same weakness. Perhaps it is even worse. As unlike Astartes who train in cohesion, custodes training emphasize personal skill and autonomity. Custodes always fight as single champions, even though they are still divided into groups. They are better used as a part of other forces, rather than a single army.

[i_kill_pikachus]

The spelling and grammar in this thread is downright formidable. I always wonder at people that can't spell things from game lore correctly, despite always seeing it written out.

[gruevy]

The Adeptus Administratum seems like a better contender for 'most powerful organization'