Horrible Lag in Multiplayer

[Zastier]

I have spent about 7 hours with a couple of friends in a multiplayer session and the lag made the game nearly unplayable. Placing wouldn't always work, putting items in inventories didn't always register properly, enemies would constantly lag out, move in one direction then suddenly you'd get hit by a teleporting enemy. Players also constantly desync and break which gets annoying when trying to build or follow them places.

Anyone else getting this? Is there a known fix?

EDIT: Thanks to BadAsBob for providing some good tips for increasing playability in multiplayer!

Since making the post I have became aware that Coffee Stain know this is an issue and this post is not really relevant. If you run into the lag issue try the method in the Answer comment and see if that helps while the problem is fixed.

I would also appreciate it if the thread was not littered with bickering to make it easier for useful information to be extracted by anyone who might find it in the future.

Thanks for the help.

[[BAO] Max Morgan]

Still so laggy... what is happening...
Multiplayer is really hard to play like this :(

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BAO beerz eredeti hozzászólása:

Still so laggy... what is happening...
Multiplayer is really hard to play like this :(

It's probably because you're not setting it up correctly. If you use the correct setup then multiplayer in this game is *NOT* laggy at all. You need the person hosting the game to be on a rather fast computer. At least minimum a 6 core CPU made within the past 3 years. The host also has to be on good internet with at least 6 Mbps upstream. Both players must set network quality to Ultra. I play in multiplayer with a friend of mine for several hours out of a day a couple times a week and I have a large setup now with over 700 hours in my second playthrough. We both play together and drive vehicles and everything works fine and there's no lag for either of us.

[[BAO] Max Morgan]

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BAO beerz eredeti hozzászólása:

Still so laggy... what is happening...
Multiplayer is really hard to play like this :(

.....Both players must set network quality to Ultra. I.....

Where can I set up the network quality? I can't find that option?!

[Zastier]

Aquafawks eredeti hozzászólása:

multiplayer in this game is *NOT* laggy at all

The game is laggy, the multiplayer is laggy, it is a fact and has been stated by the developers, they know it's laggy and are working on improvements. It's great that you can play with no issues but most people do not have top of the line PCs and ultrafast broadband. The game needs optimisation.

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Zastier eredeti hozzászólása:

The game is laggy, the multiplayer is laggy, it is a fact and has been stated by the developers, they know it's laggy and are working on improvements. It's great that you can play with no issues but most people do not have top of the line PCs and ultrafast broadband. The game needs optimisation.

A modern 6 core chip isn't even considered "ultra fast" anymore. It's the minimum standard for a large percentage of gamers these days. Quad core chips are old and not really useless today in 2020 for gaming. "Top of the line PC's" would be someone with an 8, 10, 12, or 16 core chip today.

If you're not on broadband with at least 6 Mbps upstream then expect all multiplayer games to be slow. That should be common sense to most people. Slow internet = slow multiplayer games.

I do agree with you that they can try to optimize things further but in reality if people have old computers and slow internet then of course the game's going to run laggy in multiplayer.

People shouldn't complain so much if they're trying to play an unfinished game in Early Access on a potato computer and it runs slow and laggy.

[[BAO] Max Morgan]

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Zastier eredeti hozzászólása:

The game is laggy, the multiplayer is laggy, it is a fact and has been stated by the developers, they know it's laggy and are working on improvements. It's great that you can play with no issues but most people do not have top of the line PCs and ultrafast broadband. The game needs optimisation.

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Well, thats great because in Germany some Internetproviders dont let you use more then 3 mbps upload even with a downloadrate of 500 mbps.... So i wouldnt even be able to do it if i wanted....
I set the Network quality on ultra and my friends too - it is better but still not great...
Ain't got anything left to try... so it is up to the game and developer to make it possible for a majority of gamers
But it is still alpha so I'll just wait for opitmization

[[BAO] Max Morgan]

Zastier eredeti hozzászólása:

Aquafawks eredeti hozzászólása:

multiplayer in this game is *NOT* laggy at all

The game is laggy, the multiplayer is laggy, it is a fact and has been stated by the developers, they know it's laggy and are working on improvements. It's great that you can play with no issues but most people do not have top of the line PCs and ultrafast broadband. The game needs optimisation.

+1

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BAO beerz eredeti hozzászólása:

Well, thats great because in Germany some Internetproviders dont let you use more then 3 mbps upload even with a downloadrate of 500 mbps.... So i wouldnt even be able to do it if i wanted....
I set the Network quality on ultra and my friends too - it is better but still not great...
Ain't got anything left to try... so it is up to the game and developer to make it possible for a majority of gamers
But it is still alpha so I'll just wait for opitmization

If you're wondering where I came up with that option: I have 15 Mbps upstream here in Texas and a friend of mine in Woming has 3 Mbps upstream. If I send my save to my friend and he hosts the game we get lag in multiplayer. If he sends me the save and I host it, we have a glorious smooth multiplayer experience with zero lag ever.

[[BAO] Max Morgan]

Aquafawks eredeti hozzászólása:

BAO beerz eredeti hozzászólása:

Well, thats great because in Germany some Internetproviders dont let you use more then 3 mbps upload even with a downloadrate of 500 mbps.... So i wouldnt even be able to do it if i wanted....
I set the Network quality on ultra and my friends too - it is better but still not great...
Ain't got anything left to try... so it is up to the game and developer to make it possible for a majority of gamers
But it is still alpha so I'll just wait for opitmization

If you're wondering where I came up with that option: I have 15 Mbps upstream here in Texas and a friend of mine in Woming has 3 Mbps upstream. If I send my save to my friend and he hosts the game we get lag in multiplayer. If he sends me the save and I host it, we have a glorious smooth multiplayer experience with zero lag ever.

That is great! But not everyone got this kind of upload speed!
And it is still unbelievably bad optimized! Imagine 3 mbps isn't enough for 2 people...
What bandwith some MMO would need

[Kraft51]

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Aquafawks eredeti hozzászólása:

If you're wondering where I came up with that option: I have 15 Mbps upstream here in Texas and a friend of mine in Woming has 3 Mbps upstream. If I send my save to my friend and he hosts the game we get lag in multiplayer. If he sends me the save and I host it, we have a glorious smooth multiplayer experience with zero lag ever.

That is great! But not everyone got this kind of upload speed!
And it is still unbelievably bad optimized! Imagine 3 mbps isn't enough for 2 people...
What bandwith some MMO would need

you realise that multiplayer/coop isn't a main feature right? as fun as this game is in MP its really not a priority in the bigger picture. this is why its not as good as it could be at this stage.

[Zastier]

Aquafawks eredeti hozzászólása:

A modern 6 core chip isn't even considered "ultra fast" anymore. It's the minimum standard for a large percentage of gamers these days. Quad core chips are old and not really useless today in 2020 for gaming.

45% of Steam Users use 4 Core CPUs. Only about 35% of the Steam userbase have CPUs with more than 4 cores. Yes, 6+ cores is becoming the standard, but we are not at an adoption rate high enough yet where PC games can ignore the performance requirements of users with lower core count.

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Zastier eredeti hozzászólása:

45% of Steam Users use 4 Core CPUs. Only about 35% of the Steam userbase have CPUs with more than 4 cores. Yes, 6+ cores is becoming the standard, but we are not at an adoption rate high enough yet where PC games can ignore the performance requirements of users with lower core count.

That's great and all but that's based on the people with pre-existing computers. Anyone that builds a *NEW* computer this year and moving forwards should be at minimum 6 cores or more from here on. This started really back in 2018 once AMD has made 6 core chips affordable to the masses now. This game is targeted for release at least after 2021, likely 2022. By the time this game reaches final release status most people will of moved on from old and aging quad core systems in to modern 6+ core computers and this whole "lag issue" will mostly not bother the majority of the people playing this game. I agree they still need to optimize it more but the majority of the complaints about lag in multiplayer and general poor performance in-game stems from people trying to play this game on their old and slow potato computers.

[beko]

Imagine how products would look like if nobody would complain about issues in early access.

Probably like EA games. And this time I mean the publisher.

[BadAsBob]

Aquafawks eredeti hozzászólása:

Cotaks eredeti hozzászólása:

- the server(host) needs to have an open router/modem for the game.(port forwarding)

This is not true. This game does not require any sort of port forwarding what so ever. I play with my friends all the time in Satisfactory and neither of us have ever opened any ports on our routers.

I love it when people like you come along. Self entitled smug little people telling everyone that you know best, and that it's everyone else's problems with their PC's because in your specific case it works fine. Let's break down a couple of things here from your various comments in this thread shall we.

1. The game *does* use certain ports. Depending on how your router is set up you may need to port forward. If you have an open NAT, or have UPNP working on your router then you don't. In most other cases you will need to forward at least some ports.

2. 6+ core machines are not "the standard", and people who don't have them are not running on potatoes. I get that you're one of those people who are compensating for something by having a beefy computer, but only about a third of steam users have more than 4 cores. You're one of them, congrats.

3. You don't *need* to have 6 cores to run the game, or even have it running well, at least until you start building mega factories; and even then 4 cores will do you just fine with some frame rate hitches.

4. You don't need to have 15Mbps upload for the game. In fact, unless you modify some .ini files the bandwidth is capped to 64Kbps, so I'm afraid that whatever the circumstances you have that mean you are not experiencing lag they are nothing to do with your "phat pipes".

5. The developers themselves have said that they know there are performance issues in multiplayer. In fact, when you start a multiplayer game, or go into the multiplayer menu, there is a big bloody warning on the screen telling you that multiplayer is less stable. Why you think you know better than the people who design the game is a mystery.

For anyone who's come here looking for actual advice and not e-peen ♥♥♥♥ waving, have a look at this.

https://satisfactory.gamepedia.com/Multiplayer#Temporary_lag_solution

YMMV, but some of the suggestions here can solve some of the worse lag issues.

[beko]

Nice, some interesting settings. Thanks @BadAsBob