Satisfactory calculator

[TheSkimMilkGorilla]

Can someone explain the satisfactory calculator to me? Like. It's kinda worthless when I use it. Like when I want 80 plates/m. It'll say, oh you need 3 mines! But I only have 2. Then it tries to say, oh, in that case you need one mine at 10%, one at 90% and one at 200% or some sort of madness?

I started doing everything by hand in a notebook. That being said, I do feel figuring it out yourself is half the fun.


My final gripe is ♥♥♥♥ that website is kinda trash. Like. It's the only website I've ever seen that can crash my pc???? And the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ads are *out of control.*

[TheSkimMilkGorilla]

Origineel geplaatst door Gordon✪Gekko:

Origineel geplaatst door nfgman:

Only use the IM part of SCIM, personally. Very thankful for that.

Indeed.

IM is really great. Made many times my day. Fenix could also tell you a crate story where IM solved the problem.

Origineel geplaatst door Fenix:

I only use the SCIM, I prefer doing the math myself.

I can confirm that. He's is a very fast builder. And solid solutions. Efficient. Elegant, handy designs. And lately even architecturally stylish.

Every time I visit him I have my aha moments.

What is SCIM?

[Kage Goomba]

Origineel geplaatst door TheSkimMilkGorilla:

Origineel geplaatst door Gordon✪Gekko:

Indeed.

IM is really great. Made many times my day. Fenix could also tell you a crate story where IM solved the problem.


I can confirm that. He's is a very fast builder. And solid solutions. Efficient. Elegant, handy designs. And lately even architecturally stylish.

Every time I visit him I have my aha moments.

What is SCIM?

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/

[TheSkimMilkGorilla]

Origineel geplaatst door Kage Goomba:

Origineel geplaatst door TheSkimMilkGorilla:

What is SCIM?

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/

Yeah, I JUST figured that out and came back to say that lmao

[Flash✪Gordon]

IM is the Interactive Map in SCIM, where you can alter your savegame with functionalities which should be in the game.

[kLuns]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3187030/Satisfactory_Modeler/

[Flash✪Gordon]

shouldnt this tool be forbidden? ;)

[Kage Goomba]

Origineel geplaatst door Gordon✪Gekko:

shouldnt this tool be forbidden? ;)

Last I looked - unfinished product in terms of advanced builds - but great potential.

[Kage Goomba]

Origineel geplaatst door Gordon✪Gekko:

great potential = spoils the game even greater?

I don't understand why so many people sabotage theriselve with cheating, watching youtube solution, etc.

You give people too much credit.

Getting them to read let alone think before they speak is a bigger issue.
The tool is a tool - still have to know what your looking at and know how to use it.

You've used tools as well - so careful you don't have your own viewpoint backfire on you.

And just because they use the tool - doesn't mean they know how to play the game.

[Fenix]

Origineel geplaatst door Gordon✪Gekko:

great potential = spoils the game even greater?

I don't understand why so many people sabotage theriselve with cheating, watching youtube solution, etc.

Have we not done the same with the SCIM?... extra inventory slots, hand equipment slots... etc.
But Goomba is correct, it's just a tool to help visualize what you are making.
ANd there are a lot of things the game doesn't tell you so YouTube guides are great for that.
I wouldn't know who to make curves without Youtube, and if anything that make my life harder as now I wanna make a pretty roadways....
Most of the Videos I have watched were about out of the box building techniques I never would have found on my own... These lead to finding my own tricks that I haven't ever seen in anyone post about.

[Kage Goomba]

Origineel geplaatst door Fenix:

Origineel geplaatst door Gordon✪Gekko:

great potential = spoils the game even greater?

I don't understand why so many people sabotage theriselve with cheating, watching youtube solution, etc.

Have we not done the same with the SCIM?... extra inventory slots, hand equipment slots... etc.
But Goomba is correct, it's just a tool to help visualize what you are making.
ANd there are a lot of things the game doesn't tell you so YouTube guides are great for that.
I wouldn't know who to make curves without Youtube, and if anything that make my life harder as now I wanna make a pretty roadways....
Most of the Videos I have watched were about out of the box building techniques I never would have found on my own... These lead to finding my own tricks that I haven't ever seen in anyone post about.

SCIM is a far more "evil" tool compared to the app mentioned above - because it can modify the save file directly.

Thus far I've only had to use it once - to remove a buggared Train Station thanks to a blueprint - pretty powerful tool - so yeah you want to talk about spoiling the game? SCIM is prime suspect number 1.

And I agree on the video comment - as I'm still doing the math/planning on Nuclear power - I have like half a dozen questions I want to ask - poke people about - decided to keep my mouth shut - why? Cause half the fun is figuring it out.

Yes I'm using SCIM to plot the production line - its an absurdly large/complex process.
Just making 10 Uranium rods is daunting in-itself. (Just 4 Nuclear Gen's at 250%)
And waste processing that to make 0.5 Plutonium Rods (yep - just half a rod) would make you laugh and say "I'm in Danger". (Sinking it for now - until I decide what to do next)

Wanted to keep it simple - but still be of good worth without going "Mega factory" so fast.

Hard to track everything - without it - I'd be using spreadsheets with formula's/macro's.

As someone who is a EVE Online Vet - "Up Yours" would be my reply to using tools in that regard.

:P (Course once I have an idea of what's expected - I go right back to Notepad and my own way of doing things so it's not like its a holy grail - even SCIM misses things)

[TheSkimMilkGorilla]

Origineel geplaatst door Kage Goomba:

Origineel geplaatst door Fenix:

Have we not done the same with the SCIM?... extra inventory slots, hand equipment slots... etc.
But Goomba is correct, it's just a tool to help visualize what you are making.
ANd there are a lot of things the game doesn't tell you so YouTube guides are great for that.
I wouldn't know who to make curves without Youtube, and if anything that make my life harder as now I wanna make a pretty roadways....
Most of the Videos I have watched were about out of the box building techniques I never would have found on my own... These lead to finding my own tricks that I haven't ever seen in anyone post about.

SCIM is a far more "evil" tool compared to the app mentioned above - because it can modify the save file directly.

Thus far I've only had to use it once - to remove a buggared Train Station thanks to a blueprint - pretty powerful tool - so yeah you want to talk about spoiling the game? SCIM is prime suspect number 1.

And I agree on the video comment - as I'm still doing the math/planning on Nuclear power - I have like half a dozen questions I want to ask - poke people about - decided to keep my mouth shut - why? Cause half the fun is figuring it out.

Yes I'm using SCIM to plot the production line - its an absurdly large/complex process.
Just making 10 Uranium rods is daunting in-itself. (Just 4 Nuclear Gen's at 250%)
And waste processing that to make 0.5 Plutonium Rods (yep - just half a rod) would make you laugh and say "I'm in Danger". (Sinking it for now - until I decide what to do next)

Wanted to keep it simple - but still be of good worth without going "Mega factory" so fast.

Hard to track everything - without it - I'd be using spreadsheets with formula's/macro's.

As someone who is a EVE Online Vet - "Up Yours" would be my reply to using tools in that regard.

:P (Course once I have an idea of what's expected - I go right back to Notepad and my own way of doing things so it's not like its a holy grail - even SCIM misses things)

So, I've never cheated with it. I have used it for the map though, since it's a late technology to be able to plan accordingly. Oh, and forsome reason, when I do mass deletes, my game crashes. So, I did recently delete two factories to completely rebuild them.

But I was hoping to have it help me do that math on all my assemblers and whatnot, but it's kinda terrible. I just draw it out by hand now.

[Kage Goomba]

Origineel geplaatst door TheSkimMilkGorilla:

So, I've never cheated with it. I have used it for the map though, since it's a late technology to be able to plan accordingly. Oh, and forsome reason, when I do mass deletes, my game crashes. So, I did recently delete two factories to completely rebuild them.

But I was hoping to have it help me do that math on all my assemblers and whatnot, but it's kinda terrible. I just draw it out by hand now.

Cheating is a strong term - don't let Gordon sway you there.

It's a tool - only way I'd call it cheating is if you gave yourself a distinct advantage normally not available in the game.

In my terms that would be loading materials/harddrives/slugs/items/buildings that you would normally have to build in the game.

Otherwise its just a glorified calculator/map.

Ok may be I used the map to see if there's a Node available - still have to get there - have to clear it - build it - etc.

How you use it - is entirely up to you.

But don't call it cheating unless you REALLY are taking that far.

Now if you call it cheating - that's fine - just don't call everyone else a cheat if they are just using it as a map/production planner - you may find yourself boiled alive.

If that makes sense.

Go ahead and use the production tool - you may find it works - be warned - SCIM makes a number of "Assumptions" - so it won't account for things like over clock - at least at first.

But then it's not a hard thing to account for when you get it all sorted.

As I said - still need to know the game before you can even remotely understand the tool.

[ShadowSkill11]

It's not that hard to figure out. If you are looking at a x/min rate for a iron mine or something on your visualization to build 10 rotors per min or something and it tells you run the normal iron mine at mk.2 at 20%. That just means you need 20% of the iron supply of a mk.2 mine. You need to fill out the options screen with your highest/the tech level you want to use and just look at it that way. You then have an extra 80% capacity to work with before that mine is unable to supply you with more product fast enough for you to burn it on without upgrading or augmenting the incoming supply with another source.

[TheSkimMilkGorilla]

Origineel geplaatst door ShadowSkill11:

It's not that hard to figure out. If you are looking at a x/min rate for a iron mine or something on your visualization to build 10 rotors per min or something and it tells you run the normal iron mine at mk.2 at 20%. That just means you need 20% of the iron supply of a mk.2 mine. You need to fill out the options screen with your highest/the tech level you want to use and just look at it that way. You then have an extra 80% capacity to work with before that mine is unable to supply you with more product fast enough for you to burn it on without upgrading or augmenting the incoming supply with another source.

Yeah, but the issue is you can't tell it how many nodes you have. If you say want to use four nodes to it's fullest, there's no way to do that. Even if you calculate it and say "I have 270 input" it'll still pull a random number from your "input" And throw out some random ass numbers from the miners. It's trash.

[TheSkimMilkGorilla]

Origineel geplaatst door Kage Goomba:

Origineel geplaatst door TheSkimMilkGorilla:

So, I've never cheated with it. I have used it for the map though, since it's a late technology to be able to plan accordingly. Oh, and forsome reason, when I do mass deletes, my game crashes. So, I did recently delete two factories to completely rebuild them.

But I was hoping to have it help me do that math on all my assemblers and whatnot, but it's kinda terrible. I just draw it out by hand now.

Cheating is a strong term - don't let Gordon sway you there.

It's a tool - only way I'd call it cheating is if you gave yourself a distinct advantage normally not available in the game.

In my terms that would be loading materials/harddrives/slugs/items/buildings that you would normally have to build in the game.

Otherwise its just a glorified calculator/map.

Ok may be I used the map to see if there's a Node available - still have to get there - have to clear it - build it - etc.

How you use it - is entirely up to you.

But don't call it cheating unless you REALLY are taking that far.

Now if you call it cheating - that's fine - just don't call everyone else a cheat if they are just using it as a map/production planner - you may find yourself boiled alive.

If that makes sense.

Go ahead and use the production tool - you may find it works - be warned - SCIM makes a number of "Assumptions" - so it won't account for things like over clock - at least at first.

But then it's not a hard thing to account for when you get it all sorted.

As I said - still need to know the game before you can even remotely understand the tool.

I'm not a fan of it's assumptions. Even when you fully choose all the options and whatnot. Like I said, I'd rather draw it out by hand than deal with that website. On top of the fact that it can crash my pc and it RIDDLED with ads. I mean, I get needing money, but to have THAT many ads??? It reminds me of 2006 internet again.