Favorite approach to aluminium stuff?

[aY227]

Didn't play since U3, so a lot of things is new to me... and those quol changes oh my.

Anyways - I will now start aluminum factories, and looking at alt. recipes I see I have few options here - like ingots can go via quartz or oil, that's simple - but it gets interesting with radio control units.

Any loose thoughts are welcome - like maybe going for something now will save mi a lot of time later.

[kLuns]

pure aluminum is the first alternate to unlock and directly second is sloppy alumina.
Pure aluminum removes the need for silica
Sloppy provides more solution and no silica.

For scrap choose what feels right. It's a 1 to 1 with the regular recipe but the alternate saves on bauxite at the cost of oil.

My favorite way of setting up is starting with a center refinery facing backwards making the scrap, then put sloppy alumina refineries next to it.
This creates one manifold for water on one side and one manifold for solution on the other side.
From here I feed the waste water into one refinery and let the other refinery run on fresh water. Then I do the math and define at what speed the refineries should run.

The alumina solution is one manifold and will be starved when setting up.
Water side:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3342496221

Solution side:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3342496295

[aY227]

Originally posted by kLuns:

pure aluminum is the first alternate to unlock and directly second is sloppy alumina.
Pure aluminum removes the need for silica
Sloppy provides more solution and no silica.

Ok... just when I finished 2x600 quartz trucks xD Ok... won't go to waste later ;)

Will do as you said - https://imgur.com/a/SQdfjVr - I think this the general idea.
Thank you very much.

Radios tomorrow :)

[Lawn-Mower]

There's a bug where certain pools of water will contaminate the water extractor with 999 uranium waste.. The best way to test is to build the extractor, go to another biome and return (tends to happen after leaving unattended). So test your water first before deciding on a location.

[Captain Oveur]

Originally posted by Lawn-Mower:

There's a bug where certain pools of water will contaminate the water extractor with 999 uranium waste..

So when ADA tells me that I could test the water with my hand before placing the extractor (or just place and pray), I should actually listen to her and test the water?

[Lawn-Mower]

Originally posted by Captain Oveur:

Originally posted by Lawn-Mower:

There's a bug where certain pools of water will contaminate the water extractor with 999 uranium waste..

So when ADA tells me that I could test the water with my hand before placing the extractor (or just place and pray), I should actually listen to her and test the water?

You'd think with Ada's intimate knowledge of cloning Pioneers, it'd know how long your arm is..

[Dirtyshadow]

My approach was save up my hard drives, unlock Aluminium milestone... run Hard drives to get Sloppy and Pure alternates.

Then I built a massive plant in the Red Forest lake with the 1800 Bauxite.

[RadioIesbian Fluid]

I quite like the new instant scrap recepie bypassing need for alumina solution. Set up a production line with that taking 8400 bauxite and turning it into 16800 scrap/min

[NocheLuz]

Originally posted by RadioIesbian Fluid:

I quite like the new instant scrap recepie bypassing need for alumina solution. Set up a production line with that taking 8400 bauxite and turning it into 16800 scrap/min

I don't think it is new. I got that one in Update 7. However, It was not useful because it needed Sulfur. But since there are a lot more Sulfur now. I might look into it more deeply.

[The Big Brzezinski]

I just find one of the components located next to a water source, ship in everything else, and do the basic recipes. It's really not hard to do.

[grab these bandages]

Loop water using valves and use coal for scrap, for me it is the best recipe to balance aluminum production with 2 solution refineries : 1 scrap with a little bit of silica for 1 foundry.

[Schobbob]

instant scrap recipe in a blender and loop the water output back into sulfuric acid refineries creating an infinite loop for the acid.

[RadioIesbian Fluid]

Originally posted by NocheLuz:

Originally posted by RadioIesbian Fluid:

I quite like the new instant scrap recepie bypassing need for alumina solution. Set up a production line with that taking 8400 bauxite and turning it into 16800 scrap/min

I don't think it is new. I got that one in Update 7. However, It was not useful because it needed Sulfur. But since there are a lot more Sulfur now. I might look into it more deeply.

oh? intresting i never saw it before, thought it was new with update 1.0. bad luck on my hard drive scans i suppose.

[aY227]

Originally posted by The Big Brzezinski:

I just find one of the components located next to a water source, ship in everything else, and do the basic recipes. It's really not hard to do.

?
And I don't like standard recipes approach - I find it generally boring and inefficient resource wisie.
So Im always looking for a nice ways to play with alt. recipes and now additionally with somersloop.

To each their own I guess.

PS It gets really funny with water management while using loops :)

[nfgman]

3 sloppy alumina refineries, One at 120% fed by water extractor(s). Other 2 at 90% with reclaimed water from scrap refineries. Either 3 scrap refineries at 100% or two at 150%. Requires 600/min bauxite. No valves, no mixing water sources, except maybe a little at startup, Later, this can be upgraded by overclocking at a few specific ratios.

The trick with aluminum is it has to be used or sunk to keep refineries from backing up, although some setups are a little more forgiving.

[aY227]

Originally posted by nfgman:

3 sloppy alumina refineries, One at 120% fed by water extractor(s). Other 2 at 90% with reclaimed water from scrap refineries. Either 3 scrap refineries at 100% or two at 150%. Requires 600/min bauxite. No valves, no mixing water sources, except maybe a little at startup, Later, this can be upgraded by overclocking at a few specific ratios.

The trick with aluminum is it has to be used or sunk to keep refineries from backing up, although some setups are a little more forgiving.

It's neat but wont work if you use somersloops, that I want to use on low quantity buildings like oc'ed refineries. And than you produce f-ton of excess water :)
Like here - https://imgur.com/a/NTiOUOF super efficient but leaves a lot of water... so "pure" recipes like copper or limestone or find more coal for generators :)

Ok, anyways thanks all.
Radio will be way more fun.