Satisfactory

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Skellor Oct 3, 2024 @ 2:21am
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Nuclear Power not having any purpose for finishing the game
None of nuclear products are used in Rocket parts.
There is no need to go Nuclear even for power. There are so much power from fuel generators.
This is a failure of game architecture.
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Drib Oct 3, 2024 @ 2:25am 
Then don't use it.

Though yes, it's completely superseded by turbo/rocket fuel generators. I haven't looked at running on tier-9 refined nuclear fuel though, that might be more powerful? But the production chain is a complete mess at that point.
Mush Oct 3, 2024 @ 2:30am 
You need nuclear to create certain parts.
that it is partially optional is not a failure of game architecture as you name it but an intentional option for you to use.
they give you multiple choices to achieve the goals the game sets for you, making the game fit more peoples play style and adding replayability (go back and try a different approach).

If anything, it was a smart move to give the player a lot of rope.

also...by your logic, most of the game is a failure of game architecture because you technically can buy most of what you need by sinking everything and buying what you need instead of making it ,..
Last edited by Mush; Oct 3, 2024 @ 2:31am
NocheLuz Oct 3, 2024 @ 2:41am 
Nuclear is still superior as a power source. But because people don't use oil products that much nowadays. Not to mention, the Fuel Generator buff makes them clearly a better choice compare to Nuclear.

But because you cannot use Uranium for anything other than Nuclear power. It basically sits there doing nothing if you don't clearly exploit them.

FYI, You can turn that 300 Oil to 900 plastic/rubber easily. It's just that you might not need that much to finish the game. So left over Oil turns into power, ex. 300 Oil into 72,000 MW Rocket Fuel, or 30,000 MW Diluted Fuel.
Dirtyshadow Oct 3, 2024 @ 3:10am 
Nuclear is optional, especially with 1.0 expanding the capabilities of fuel systems.

Given the overwhelming output of a full Uranium/Plutonium/Ficsonium loop system it would be in my opinion more suited for long term players who are mega-builders.
Boothy Oct 3, 2024 @ 3:13am 
I'm doing nuclear atm, but only for the sake of it. Not done it before (never got past fuel in previous runs), and just wanted to give it a go. (I have Coal, Fuel and Turbo fuel as well currently). Will have a go with Rocket Fuel next.
Bedna Oct 3, 2024 @ 3:26am 
If going nuclear: 2x50% + 4x100% (uranium fueled) will give exactly enough waste resources to power 1x50% + 2x100% with plutonium rods.
1x600/s water pipe can sustain 1x50% + 2x100%. (or 1x150% + 1x100% if you prefer that)

This complete setup will require 3x600/s water pipe networks (minus 15 water/s returning from your blender when processing the waste, if you return that back to one of the pipe networks)...

One blender set to 100% and one accelerator set to 50%.
Balance the waste so 25% goes to the accelerator, the rest to the blender.

Requirement to feed is 95 uranium/s.

All using base recipes.

With this you probably have more power than you ever need... xD
Last edited by Bedna; Oct 3, 2024 @ 3:36am
GobboKirk Oct 3, 2024 @ 3:43am 
Originally posted by Skellor:
This is a failure of game architecture.
It's called having options...
You don't need trains since you got cars and drones and belts.
You don't need cars since you got trains belts and cars and drones.
You don't need drones since you got cars and trains and belts.
You don't need belts since you have an inventory....

So to conclude, nah not worth it...
Wolfgang Oct 3, 2024 @ 3:46am 
I'm only using belts so having trucks, trains and drones is also a failure of game achitecture, OP?
Fenix Oct 3, 2024 @ 4:02am 
You don’t need foundations to beat the game either…. So… I guess that’s a failure of game architecture too?
Last edited by Fenix; Oct 3, 2024 @ 4:03am
Senrezu Oct 3, 2024 @ 4:42am 
Wild guess: OP's factory looks like a 6 year old's first Minecraft World.....
TH3R4BB!T Oct 3, 2024 @ 4:48am 
Originally posted by Senrezu:
Wild guess: OP's factory looks like a 6 year old's first Minecraft World.....
Still would look better than my spaghetti version, no energy left to make it all look nice and clean. I just want to finish it
Goblin Oct 3, 2024 @ 5:10am 
So how exactly is something a failure just because it's not needed for just barely finishing the game? Buying all the golden statues is still a goal in the game. You can either do that by waiting ridiculously long times, or you can scale up. Scaling up too much means you're gonna need nuclear.

This is like saying collectibles that make you stronger in some other game are useless because you don't need them to beat the final boss, when it has lots of post game content and a way harder ending.
Skellor Oct 3, 2024 @ 5:29am 
I like your replies and most of you are right.
Comparing cars, trains, drones to Nuclear is not good. Means of delivery are all very simple and latter is always more convenient that previous.
Regarding Nuclear - it's not convenient either simple and most reach it when it's not needed anymore.
Why should player build it when there is already excess electricity from oil manipulation?
It's also not good that Rocket fuel and Ionized Rocket fuel not used in Rocket parts. Like we launching a spaceship, come on.

Player must use every single ore and resource to build rocket parts, except uranium. That's a failure.
Last edited by Skellor; Oct 3, 2024 @ 5:30am
Bedna Oct 3, 2024 @ 5:44am 
Originally posted by Skellor:
Player must use every single ore and resource to build rocket parts, except uranium. That's a failure.

Nuclear power (fission power) in space is a VERY bad idea... There is no heat transfer in a vacuum, so cooling would be, well, impossible...
Yes, space is not a perfect vacuum, but the point is nobody in real life is even looking at using nuclear power other than as isotopes (like voyager f.ex) in space.
Last edited by Bedna; Oct 3, 2024 @ 5:45am
Skellor Oct 3, 2024 @ 5:47am 
Originally posted by Bedna:
Nuclear power (fission power) in space is a VERY bad idea... ..
You missed my point. Remove Iron or Copper or Oil and you wont be able to finish game.
Remove uranium and nothing changes.
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Date Posted: Oct 3, 2024 @ 2:21am
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