Early exploration and Xeno-Basher, Blade Runners and Parachute at tier 1?

[zOldBulldog]

Exploration is essential, and it would be ideal if you could unlock recipes as you unlock the tiers.

But sometimes (like in my current starter base) most of the nearby CPUs are protected by enemies most players can't beat with the initial gear. So, you make do and postpone exploration until you unlock the Xeno-Basher, Blade Runner and Parachute... often because in 1.0 you need explosives to reach the necessary resources and those unlock late. The result can be that you won't unlock the desired recipes until tier 3 or 4.

Would it make sense for these 3 items requirements to be lowered enough to be able to get them during tier 1 in a reasonably easy manner? Then early exploration would become much more viable.

[Ryuukaze]

I'm sure they put those things where they are in the progression *because* they want exploration to have a progression, too.

[GobboKirk]

First two I'll just give the little spoiler hints lizard doggo and cave ;)

[Dreadlow]

Yep. Large cave with an ocean view.

[zOldBulldog]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Dreadlow:

Yep. Large cave with an ocean view.

Yes, I know where it is... south of the rocky desert spawn, and the 5 doggos you can get from there would feed you items for a while.

But the problem is that an average player does not know those tricks and locations, and thus would be forced to use the sub-standard default recipes because after a little exploration they get frustrated that they keep finding enemies that are too tough for them.

As a matter of fact, knowing it felt like cheating, so I have not even visited it yet, but rather from my starter base at the plateau north of the rocky desert I focused on exploring the desert plains and the whole area to the north instead... and I am now headed east where I know there are easier crash site locations for CPUs.

Still, I did very little exploring until I unlocked the proper items for combat, as I hate wasting my time or leaving "uncleared areas" behind me. That meant that I have tier 4 unlocked and it will take me forever exploring to get enough computers to find the tier-1 Iron Wire recipe I need, and then Stitched Iron Plate and Iron Pipe next. Even for me... it would have been far more enjoyable to do my exploring one tier at a time.

[Mysticalmaid]

I haven't befriended a doggo yet in case of the radioactive stuff, but I do pet them when I see them. Don't run away Doggo I want to hug you and squeeze you..wait..come back!

[sgargoyle]

yah i will admit that items like those being no where near a spawn point(yah sometimes it will spawn you at the near end of the desert but thats still a plenty distant and critter filled path to get to for players who would need them). those feel more like video filler for streamers and youtubers.

[Fenix]

You can’t get the basher at tier 1
It’s a tier 3 unlock.
But you can unlock the rebar gun instead. Just gotta hit up those crash sites, or use doogos

[M.Red]

getting the rebar gun is not that hard
with this beast you have a good chance to get rid of agressive fauna

a little spoiler to point in the right direction:
have a look around for quartz - and get some rotors

[Evilsod]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Fenix:

You can’t get the basher at tier 1
It’s a tier 3 unlock.
But you can unlock the rebar gun instead. Just gotta hit up those crash sites, or use doogos

Only true in the sense that you can't craft the Xeno Basher until then, I found one on the map the other day.

So you can absolutely get the it right at the start of the game, if you know where to look.

[Ray Garraty]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย zOldBulldog:

nearby CPUs are protected by enemies most players can't beat with the initial gear

Have you checked other (not nearby) HDDs?
Sure some of them are heavily guarded and inconveniently placed, but others are not that hard to reach, and you can get them early game for sure, if you know where to look

[waynel140]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Ryuukaze:

I'm sure they put those things where they are in the progression *because* they want exploration to have a progression, too.

I think you understand the game. Ficksit approves of this.

[waynel140]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย zOldBulldog:

Even for me... it would have been far more enjoyable to do my exploring one tier at a time.

Please come back to this thread when you have twice as many hours in the game as you do now, to see if you're thinking has changed. For now, the best advice I've seen is just play the game the way you play it, and enjoy it. It's crazy how great the game actually is, when you don't fight it with wishing it were different. The devs knew what they were doing.

[RadioIesbian Fluid]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Evilsod:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Fenix:

You can’t get the basher at tier 1
It’s a tier 3 unlock.
But you can unlock the rebar gun instead. Just gotta hit up those crash sites, or use doogos

Only true in the sense that you can't craft the Xeno Basher until then, I found one on the map the other day.

So you can absolutely get the it right at the start of the game, if you know where to look.

There is a xeno basher to find out in the world with some exploration.

As well as a jetpack from a special boi.

[Vault Traveler]

If you have enough nuts nothing is stopping you

[Naewyng]

You don't even need to fight, just carry some concrete and plates with you, when you see the enemies just plop some flooring and create walls around the HDD. You can do this from a watchtower too and you won't be touched.