What are the "best" alt recipes and why?

[Maehlice]

Top 1, top 10, top 50. Whatever fancies your tickle.

[Evilsod]

Originally posted by Songbird:

I'm not convinced there's any reason to want to skip steel production, though. There's many huge clusters of coal on the map, and the only uses for it until tier 9 are coal power, steel, turbofuel, and aluminum; even midgame you don't care about coal power, you barely need coal for fuel setups and get limited by sulfur instead basically every time, and you have the option for petroleum coke for aluminum. There are so many good recipes and alts that use steel pipes that just making thousands per minute and throwing them on trains seems much more reasonable than trying to do anything with iron pipes.

For no better reason than to not have to spend time building it when you unlock it. You can set it up later. You never need to produce a single steel pipe, and you can do more advanced recipes without needing to bring coal into the mix and split your iron between iron and steel.

And by getting all your pipe/encased purely through iron nodes, when you do setup steel, you can redirect all of it into steel beams for the versatile framework.

They do exactly what the best alt recipes do imo, give you options.

[Bobucles]

I've managed to get a lot of mileage out of steel + concrete recipes. Finding the iron is easy, finding the coal is a bit more tricky, there's almost never enough where you need it. So mix in some concrete! Steel recipes have very high output and many of them have higher resource efficiency, but don't get too greedy with the concrete. It can overwhelm the local limestone supply.

[NocheLuz]

Originally posted by Songbird:

There are so many good recipes and alts that use steel pipes that just making thousands per minute and throwing them on trains seems much more reasonable than trying to do anything with iron pipes.

I really like Iron Pipe through. Especially early Steel Production. Because you can pour all your steel ingot into the Steel Beam. But in the mid-late game might not really be that useful. Because you can use Train and you can use Mold Pipe/Mold Beam which increases Steel Production efficiency by a lot.

[grab these bandages]

Outside of diluted fuel - quartz purification chain. For me personally it is the top 1 endgame recipe. Because silica and quartz crystals are the core components of all my factories, nuclear, computers, radio control units, etc.

[Scruntle]

There's a reddit thread that's linked from the wiki that is EXTREMELY detailed, and ranks all of the recipes on a multi axis scoring system. It even has an alternate list if you had different priorities. https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1fekus9/alternate_recipe_ranking_10_optimizing_for/

[Evilsod]

Originally posted by Scruntle:

There's a reddit thread that's linked from the wiki that is EXTREMELY detailed, and ranks all of the recipes on a multi axis scoring system. It even has an alternate list if you had different priorities. https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1fekus9/alternate_recipe_ranking_10_optimizing_for/

And it's absolutely worthless to the almost every single player, because it's a purely mathematical exercise.

Context is extremely important when it comes to the actual value of alt. recipes for players. A recipe that's good in one situation/location/process may not be good in another.

[Grandaddypurple]

Originally posted by Scruntle:

There's a reddit thread that's linked from the wiki that is EXTREMELY detailed, and ranks all of the recipes on a multi axis scoring system. It even has an alternate list if you had different priorities. https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1fekus9/alternate_recipe_ranking_10_optimizing_for/

I am SO frustrated that someone that knowledgeable took so much effort in a list where numbers are purely arbitrary and will, again, lead players away from recipes that add logistics value.
This is worse than the old wiki issue.
I'm SO PISSED.
New players will read "ok there're 10 alt recipes that are worth it, I'll hold scum on hard drives until I get them all and screw the rest"

[Ryzilynt]

Heavy Oil Residue , Diluted Fuel , Nitro Rocket fuel

600 oil = 288GW

[Evilsod]

Originally posted by Ryzilynt:

Heavy Oil Residue , Diluted Fuel , Nitro Rocket fuel

600 oil = 288GW

150 oil = 36GW, 600 oil = 144GW

[Ryzilynt]

Originally posted by Evilsod:

Originally posted by Ryzilynt:

Heavy Oil Residue , Diluted Fuel , Nitro Rocket fuel

600 oil = 288GW

150 oil = 36GW, 600 oil = 144GW

With 34 somersloops you can turn 600 oil into 4800 rocket fuel (1152 generators/288GW)

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/production/index/json/%7B"Desc_RocketFuel_C"%3A"2400"%2C"altRecipes"%3A%5B"Recipe_Alternate_RocketFuel_Nitro_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_HeavyOilResidue_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_DilutedFuel_C"%5D%7D

[Blue Wraith]

For progression, I must have these as soon as possible.

Heavy Oil Residue + Diluted Fuel
- key for fuel power and rubber/plastic
Recycled Rubber and Plastic
- fun loop to start with 1 stack of plastic or rubber and watch it multiply
Sloppy Alumina + Pure Aluminum Ingots
- greatly simplifies production chain

Not counting Compacted Coal and Turbofuel since those are available in MAM. (IMO all of the above should be.)

I can get by with base recipes for everything else just for unlocking tiers.

[Evilsod]

Originally posted by Ryzilynt:

Originally posted by Evilsod:

150 oil = 36GW, 600 oil = 144GW

With 34 somersloops you can turn 600 oil into 4800 rocket fuel (1152 generators/288GW

Somersloops is something you ought to mention in your post then, otherwise that's just misleading.

[mikemonger]

Cast screws.

Steel screws.

(Screws are just annoying)

[Ryzilynt]

Originally posted by Evilsod:

Originally posted by Ryzilynt:

With 34 somersloops you can turn 600 oil into 4800 rocket fuel (1152 generators/288GW

Somersloops is something you ought to mention in your post then, otherwise that's just misleading.

Sure, I didn't mention the nitrogen , the coal, the sulfur or the water either...

[Evilsod]

Originally posted by Ryzilynt:

Originally posted by Evilsod:

Somersloops is something you ought to mention in your post then, otherwise that's just misleading.

Sure, I didn't mention the nitrogen , the coal, the sulfur or the water either...

Neither did I. Stop being whiny. Somersloops are a rather important thing to mention when you bring up input/output.