alternative for Smart!

[󠁳 ⁧HardLimiter]

Is there an alternative for this mod?
It´s still not playable with it and without this mod, it doesn´t make fun.

Still waiting a half year and mod is not up 2 date.

[LostME]

Ask in their discord. If it still exist.

[mackster]

I miss that too - I rely on infinite zoop right now, but smart was much better. Though I also wonder if some modders are waiting for 1.0

[󠁳 ⁧HardLimiter]

Originally posted by mackster:

I miss that too - I rely on infinite zoop right now, but smart was much better. Though I also wonder if some modders are waiting for 1.0

Alright, thanks.
They said they´ll release it this year + few months for update their mods.
So I´ll wait a year or pass this game.

Because I´m not a fan from building more mega factories with few thousands of walls/grounds for one factory and put set everything separately...

Don´t get me wrong, I love to decorate things - like Cities Skylines (1) with mods and put every tree in his correct place, road markers...

But you don´t have anything from 3k foundations...

But I hope they bring this mod back.

[Zak]

I bet they're waiting for 1.0. If I was a modder I would put everything on hold right now too.

[Flash✪Gordon]

I heared very good things about this mod.
The last info I heared from a friend about Smart Foundations is that it's working, but not all functions of it.

Originally posted by mackster:

I also wonder if some modders are waiting for 1.0

Probably. If only people would stop with that "I am waiting for 1.0" nonsense.
There have been many updates and many more will come.
Shame that CSS doesn't offer official mod support, even though sb. pointed out that this wouldn't prevent mods to break from updates.

[Zak]

Originally posted by Gordon✪Gekko:

Probably. If only people would stop with that "I am waiting for 1.0" nonsense.
There have been many updates and many more will come.

Why is it nonsense? 1.0 will change the gameplay in some ways, will add content. Mods will break, saves may be unplayable for some people. It's natural that we're waiting for 1.0. Isn't that the whole reason Early Access exists for?

Most devs don't offer "official mod support" because it's a can of worms most don't want to deal with. There are too many clueless gamers who don't understand what mods are, would install a mod, screw up their save (because nobody does backups these days) and blame the devs for this. Even now dummies blame the devs when their mods break after a game update.

[󠁳 ⁧HardLimiter]

Originally posted by Gordon✪Gekko:

I heared very good things about this mod.
The last info I heared from a friend about Smart Foundations is that it's working, but not all functions of it.

Originally posted by mackster:

I also wonder if some modders are waiting for 1.0

Probably. If only people would stop with that "I am waiting for 1.0" nonsense.
There have been many updates and many more will come.
Shame that CSS doesn't offer official mod support, even though sb. pointed out that this wouldn't prevent mods to break from updates.

Few things working, that´s right.
I tested the last version in january from this mod on my world.
But few hotkeys are still broken from this mod and can´t be fixed.
You can´t build few things without these hotkeys. Even if you change them, the function is still not avaiable.

Where is the point when you can´t built 30% from all the stuff? You always need to restart your savegame with and without the mod - no thanks.

[󠁳 ⁧HardLimiter]

Originally posted by Zak:

Originally posted by Gordon✪Gekko:

Probably. If only people would stop with that "I am waiting for 1.0" nonsense.
There have been many updates and many more will come.

Why is it nonsense? 1.0 will change the gameplay in some ways, will add content. Mods will break, saves may be unplayable for some people. It's natural that we're waiting for 1.0. Isn't that the whole reason Early Access exists for?

Most devs don't offer "official mod support" because it's a can of worms most don't want to deal with. There are too many clueless gamers who don't understand what mods are, would install a mod, screw up their save (because nobody does backups these days) and blame the devs for this. Even now dummies blame the devs when their mods break after a game update.

For me, I don´t blame the devs for broken mods or something else.
I just played and bought this game after I checked these mods and asked a friend about this build system.
It´s for me a no go that they don´t put this into the basic game.

If there had never been a mod like this, I probably would never have bought the game.
Because for me that would simply be a point to drag out the game. (Hope this is correct from translator). (Make a game longer if they handicap the player)

Just put this into the game, that we can build more things at once, not 500 walls with 500 clicks - and I´m fine.

Like other games where you can craft things but you need to wait seconds/minutes before you can get your item. Fine..
But if you can´t move and you need to stay at this workstation for 5 Minutes for ONE item?
Thanks there are mods which removed this timer...
It´s the same thing in my opinion.

[Zak]

Why would you stay in front of the bench for 5 minutes making stuff except for the first few hours of the game???

I use mods myself, but not for something like this :) You're supposed to make the machines work for you. This is a game about automation. Sure, you need to craft something by hand now and then but not so often as for it to be such a problem.

[Flash✪Gordon]

Originally posted by 󠁳 ⁧HardLimiter:

I don´t blame the devs for broken mods

Exactly.

And when a company offers offcial mod support it gives a good feeling. That makes a good impression.

[Zak]

Originally posted by Gordon✪Gekko:

To not offer official support out of fear that a wrongful accusation might follow is stupid.

Oh... you seem to be totally unaware how stupid, nasty and militant the "gaming community" can be, what it's capable of. Some devs received death threats over dumber things and cops had to intervene.

[Zak]

Originally posted by Gordon✪Gekko:

Originally posted by 󠁳 ⁧HardLimiter:

I don´t blame the devs for broken mods

Exactly.

And when a company offers offcial mod support it gives a good feeling. That makes a good impression.

There are more stupid people out there than reasonable ones. Blaming devs for broken mods is all too common on all gaming forums. It gets really nasty sometimes. So I can't blame any devs who are careful not to step into that ♥♥♥♥.

[󠁳 ⁧HardLimiter]

Originally posted by Gordon✪Gekko:

Originally posted by 󠁳 ⁧HardLimiter:

I don´t blame the devs for broken mods

Exactly.

And when a company offers offcial mod support it gives a good feeling. That makes a good impression.

I mean the devs cann check/follow all these mods and maybe add them into the game.
It´s a good thing, of course and this will keep this game alive.
(Look at Cities Skylines 2)

And for me, I don´t like these nonsense spamming for foundations/walls and other stuff. It´s annoying over time and it should be added into this game.

I mean, games like Sims, each wall can make a huge different for your house. But you will place only 100 walls or something like that. And again, each wall can make a big different..

But not in Satisfactory with over thousands of walls...
I saw many posts here with big factories without walls.. and let me guess why they don´t make walls.. because it´s not funny if you´re need thousand of walls and foundations for one factory? And you have many of them over the full map?

I want to make a nice looking factory, with doors, windows and decoration inside (from mods too). But that means, I need to place 600 walls in 3 hours before I can start with decoration?

That´s my point with my bad english :)

I just want this option from smart! into this game, that you can place like 20x40 foundations - done.

[Zak]

Originally posted by Gordon✪Gekko:

So what, companies should no longer give mod support because some people behaved badly?

It's a bad idea to give in to threats, bullies and to fear in general.

Decisions based on fear with a focus on the negative leads to bad results.
It's like driving a car and looking in a curve to where you don't wanna drive. That literally provokes an accident.

A diver who allows himself to get fullfilled with fear consumes too much oxygen and improves the probability to make mistakes, which leads to more fear and real danger.

Sorry, your car and diving analogies don't work for game development. You confuse "fear" with "common sense" :)

[Flash✪Gordon]

Originally posted by 󠁳 ⁧HardLimiter:

?
It´s still not playable with it

Are you sure of that?
That's what my friend says:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3232173070