Satisfactory

Satisfactory

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JezzDawga Jan 22, 2024 @ 3:08am
This Game Needs Bigger Blueprints
Yes I'm aware you're not MEANT to build entire factories in a blueprint. I do not care. I want this functionality in the game, at Tier 4, no matter how expensive it is.

I am currently at my fourth revision of pulling apart and rebuilding my entire factory setup to a more expansive and more professional layout (again), and I just can't bring myself to do it anymore.
My entire gameplay experience has ground to a halt and this game has become boring because I'm getting sick of aligning the four same blueprints, hooking up the conveyors, hooking up the power, repeat for X amount of smelteries/factories, and then repeat for the NEXT part/ingot.
It's boring, and it's tedious, and it's just not fun. But it's required to progress smoothly, and I'm eventually going to have to do it anyway.

I refuse to progress past Tier 4 until I organise my existing layout; I don't need additional complications when I haven't even established fully automatic steel part fabrication as per my specifications.
Thus, the ONE mod that could help me, can't help me, because all of their tools are for Tiers beyond 4.

So as it stands, I'm at an impasse, and frankly I'm quickly losing all interest I had in this game when I first picked it up. I can hardly bear to play it for 15-30 minutes on non-consecutive days anymore.

The whole point of this blueprint system is supposed to reduce repetition, but it just enhances the repetition by not even giving you the slight satisfaction of hooking everything up by scratch instead of aligning blueprints carefully and then hooking up conveyors and wires at fixed points.
That's not to say that the blueprint system shouldn't exist, it's to say the blueprint system is flawed and definitely needs expansion options.
Originally posted by Lawn-Mower:
Originally posted by JezzDawga:
By the way you've described it, it seems the meta of the game is to just gun for the milestones and tech tree, and then set up full production automation afterwards, which is kinda backwards imo.
This is my, and many other veterans approach. You certainly don't have to, but I find it saves time, and when the game's sucking thousands of hours of your life you look for that.
Originally posted by JezzDawga:
I'm also doing a modular/mega hybrid I suppose you could call it. At first I was building full-on megafactory lines, but then scrapped that for a hodgepodge modular nest all across the grasslands, and now I'm trying to rein it in by pulling it all apart and placing a floor of foundations across it all, connecting each other onto a homogenous grid.
It's about now that many players realise what you're going through and switch tack. Nothing wrong with just squirting out a spaghetti mess until you've unlocked things enough to tidy it up. I don't consider 'late-game' to start (or maybe even the proper game I want to play to start) until everything's unlocked. Only then can my real planning begin.

Another approach could be to build well at your current tier, then move somewhere else when upgrades are unlocked, rather than upgrading/expanding previous builds .

Originally posted by JezzDawga:
Even then I do still have a Encased Industrial setup that doesn't conform to any of this and is free-placed, simply out of the need for steel material mostly.
It's an easy trap to fall into - 'I just need X in a hurry, so we'll go haphazard and worry about the mess later'. If you do decide to go back to upgrade later, you'll find you'll need a lot more space, and if previous smaller modular factories grow and merge into a large one and they're missaligned you'll need to get a little creative. That being said, you can get pretty high vertically, so that issue can be entirely avoided. That's part of the joy of the game - the player creates most of their own problems, but there's so many different solutions to most of them.

Originally posted by JezzDawga:
Either way, I think I definitely need a break from the game, especially after hearing 6+ month breaks isn't unusual.
Thanks again for your constructive input!
You're welcome. But again, this is just me personally, it could be very different for you depending on how you approach it. I'm thoroughly addicted and absolutely smash it, as in 80hr+ weeks, so yeah, big breaks are needed as I do actually enjoy living a little ;).
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Phoenix Cat Jan 22, 2024 @ 3:23am 
Dude...I have almost 300 hours, have never used the blueprint machine. Maybe not your kinda game.
JezzDawga Jan 22, 2024 @ 3:27am 
Dude, I have 100 hours, this very much is my kind of game, however it cares not for the macro, only for the micro.
kLuns Jan 22, 2024 @ 3:29am 
skill issue
buchanant Jan 22, 2024 @ 3:45am 
So, blueprints... No matter how good your factory, you will always have to hook up an in, an out, and power. That goes from your most basic constructor to a 3 tier 15 constructor blue print. Take breaks. Heck, take a month off and come back when you feel like you have a project you want to tackle.
JezzDawga Jan 22, 2024 @ 3:49am 
Yeah I might need to take a longer break from this game before I feel energized enough to tackle this.
And yeah, I do understand that some assembly will be required, I just really feel like that you should have the option (and it's up to the user if they want to take it for all those 4x4x4 hardcore players) to funnel your resources into a blueprint expander or multiple blueprint designers or something (even if it's a gargantuan unreasonably large amount) to a point where you could fit four blueprints into a "megablueprint" for lack of a better term.

The definition of what a "Factory" is, shifts the more you play the game and the more resources are demanded of you. At the start, a factory is a smelter and a constructor. Where I'm at, a "factory" is a single floor of a multi-floor complex with 9 smelteries/constructors/assemblers per floor, to be expanded upon vertically where necessary.
Last edited by JezzDawga; Jan 22, 2024 @ 3:53am
Fenix Jan 22, 2024 @ 4:23am 
They should make a 5x5 or 6x6 version in tier 8 that is 4m taller. 4x4 is a bit small
or just replace the 4x4 with a 5x5, with that 4m height extension.
Last edited by Fenix; Jan 22, 2024 @ 4:24am
Vectorspace Jan 22, 2024 @ 4:31am 
There are mods that add larger blueprint support, you can search on https://ficsit.app
There are also mods that add copy/paste functionality, separate from the blueprinter.

If you absolutely believe the game should natively support bigger blueprints, then find an existing request for the same on https://questions.satisfactorygame.com and upvote it
Firewind Jan 22, 2024 @ 4:44am 
Originally posted by brnphoenix75:
Dude...I have almost 300 hours, have never used the blueprint machine. Maybe not your kinda game.
This!

I have over 500 hrs and I have not used the BP facility once. If you are stressing out at just tier 4, then this game is obviously not for you.
Doc✪Hollywood Jan 22, 2024 @ 6:03am 
Originally posted by Fenix:
They should make a 5x5 or 6x6 version in tier 8 that is 4m taller. 4x4 is a bit small
or just replace the 4x4 with a 5x5, with that 4m height extension.
Sure thing!

Originally posted by Vectorspace:
https://ficsit.app. There are also mods that add copy/paste functionality, separate from the blueprinter.
What I miss is the possibility to select buildings and structures and copy-paste them into the blueprint designer. To convert them into blueprints. Or to build them again without blueprint.

Is that by chance what you meant with copy/paste functionallity? (would be awesome)

In case it's really doing that ... would you have a link?
Last edited by Doc✪Hollywood; Jan 22, 2024 @ 7:45am
Paranoya Jan 22, 2024 @ 7:30am 
Originally posted by JezzDawga:
Yes I'm aware you're not MEANT to build entire factories in a blueprint. I do not care. I want this functionality in the game, at Tier 4, no matter how expensive it is.

Who cares that you do not care?
Exactly my humour.

With the help of google you could find within seconds what you are looking for, I know - that could be too easy.
Vectorspace Jan 22, 2024 @ 7:37am 
Originally posted by Gordon✪Gekko:
Originally posted by Vectorspace:
https://ficsit.app. There are also mods that add copy/paste functionality, separate from the blueprinter.
What I miss is the possibility to select buildings and structures and copy-paste them into the blueprint designer. To convert them into blueprints. Or just to build them again without making them a blueprint.

Is that by chance what you meant with copy/paste functionallity? (would be awesome)
That is what I mean. In-game, the ability to select an area and copy everything in that area, and paste elsewhere.
I know there were mods to do that. Area Actions is the only one I know of, but I think I heard it is no longer compatible.
There could be others. Search on ficsit.app for blueprint, copy, paste, etc.

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map is an online save editor that you can use to copy/paste out of game.
Doc✪Hollywood Jan 22, 2024 @ 7:52am 
Area is a possibility. I would prefer if I could select many buildings (like when disassembling with CTRL+LMB) and copy them like that.

It might take a bit longer but it's more precise that way.
Joeyramone Jan 22, 2024 @ 12:13pm 
this doesnt sound like your kind of game....100 hours and youre already sick of rebuilding? why even play if you want to just copy and paste a factory?
Lawn-Mower Jan 22, 2024 @ 1:12pm 
a) That's an awfully long rant; you're clearly quite frustrated
b) What are you hoping to achieve by venting that frustration at players who do enjoy the game?
b) It's called Satisfactory, not Stressfactory
c) It's pretty much open sandbox - the player plays the way they choose to. Why are you rebuilding if you don't enjoy rebuilding? Just go somewhere else and start fresh ffs.
d) 100hrs is orders of magnitude more than the vast majority of games can hold my attention; I'd be satisfied with 100hrs of entertainment for the price I paid
e) As Vectorspace mentioned, if you have genuine feedback/requests you'd like the devs to see, https://questions.satisfactorygame.com is the place for it
f) There's [almost] always a mod for that
g) Why would you play a game you're not enjoying?
Last edited by Lawn-Mower; Jan 22, 2024 @ 1:15pm
JezzDawga Jan 22, 2024 @ 2:47pm 
Well a lot of you didn't seem to actually read my post, because yes I did Google and yes I'm aware the mod exists, and I've outlined the reasons why I find it prohibitive to use (in addition to just being too small anyway).

Originally posted by Joeyramone:
this doesnt sound like your kind of game....100 hours and youre already sick of rebuilding? why even play if you want to just copy and paste a factory?

Accelerative progression should be embraced, not shunned. I want to copy and paste a factory (being ONE FLOOR of a multi-floor building) because I'm going to be repeating this for 15-20 of those factories, in addition to the rest of the logistics of cables and conveyors.

Originally posted by Lawn-Mower:
a) That's an awfully long rant; you're clearly quite frustrated
b) What are you hoping to achieve by venting that frustration at players who do enjoy the game?
b) It's called Satisfactory, not Stressfactory
c) It's pretty much open sandbox - the player plays the way they choose to. Why are you rebuilding if you don't enjoy rebuilding? Just go somewhere else and start fresh ffs.
d) 100hrs is orders of magnitude more than the vast majority of games can hold my attention; I'd be satisfied with 100hrs of entertainment for the price I paid
e) As Vectorspace mentioned, if you have genuine feedback/requests you'd like the devs to see, https://questions.satisfactorygame.com is the place for it
f) There's [almost] always a mod for that
g) Why would you play a game you're not enjoying?

A) Thanks Freud.
B1) I've seen the request made a lot here and I was hoping I could get a developer or someone to acknowledge it and either help me mitigate the feelings or this challenge, or tell me something is in the works to resolve the issue.
B2) Thanks Seinfeld.
C) Space management, design constraints, neatness and consistency. What do you mean "go somewhere else"? My setup spans the entire grasslands and will expand further once I'm building these factory floors for stuff other than copper- and iron-based material.
D) I never said I wanted a refund?
E) Thank you.
F) I looked.
G) To try, to find out I don't, thus I'm not, and probably won't be for a month as buchanant wisely suggested.

Originally posted by Firewind:
Originally posted by brnphoenix75:
Dude...I have almost 300 hours, have never used the blueprint machine. Maybe not your kinda game.
This!

I have over 500 hrs and I have not used the BP facility once. If you are stressing out at just tier 4, then this game is obviously not for you.

Nice gateway attempt but no, you don't get to make that call. I enjoy(ed?) this game, and if it was made solely for people like you, it wouldn't have a blueprint system to begin with.
Last edited by JezzDawga; Jan 22, 2024 @ 3:14pm
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