Tier 6 conveyor belts - when?

[serega_morozov]

Hello!
Since my the factory is getting bigger and complicated, i`s one thing that become my worst nightmare - screws... T5 belts transport only 780 per minute, it`s absolutely not enough to feed more than 4 manufacturers making heavy modular frames... It`s boring, `cause i need to build supporting production of screws near all of them. I hope, you add new belts (maybe made from some kind of polymer, plastic+resin+rubber or nitrogen for example) in next update

[Phoenix Cat]

Hopefully with the next big update.

[Wolfgang]

1) Once there are no precission issues with that.
2) Use alt recipies and get rid of the screws entirely. I highly recommend the alt recipe "Heavy Encased Frame".

[serega_morozov]

Originally posted by Wolfgang:

1) Once there are no precission issues with that.
2) Use alt recipies and get rid of the screws entirely. I highly recommend the alt recipe "Heavy Encased Frame".

Thx, but I already opened all alt recipes, and use them everywhere when it's profitable. Heavy modular frames is only example for bad screws balance in most of the recipes.

[Wolfgang]

Originally posted by serega_morozov:

Originally posted by Wolfgang:

1) Once there are no precission issues with that.
2) Use alt recipies and get rid of the screws entirely. I highly recommend the alt recipe "Heavy Encased Frame".

Thx, but I already opened all alt recipes, and use them everywhere when it's profitable. Heavy modular frames is only example for bad screws balance in most of the recipes.

There is a reason why you should remove screws entirely from your whole factory. And it is possible with alt recipes.

You are screwed anyway if you use screws in the long term.

[Vectorspace]

The Heavy Encased Frame alt recipe for Heavy Modular Frames does not require screws. The components of it also have alt recipes that do that require screws

[Fenix]

coming in v1.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4mfXsTjAP8

[Vectorspace]

All he says is they have a solution to not being able to extract the full 1200/min from a fully overclocked mk3 miner on a pure node.
They have not said what that solution is, it may not be a faster belt. It might be a 2nd output.

[®æ]

Yes the tier 5 belts are pretty annoying

[kLuns]

I got my module of 800 iron ingots into 720 cable running perfectly with 780 belts. There is no need for a faster belt if you are creative.

Originally posted by Wolfgang:

There is a reason why you should remove screws entirely from your whole factory. And it is possible with alt recipes.

You are screwed anyway if you use screws in the long term.

No there is not.
Don't tell others what to do.
Copper Rotor is my favorite rotor recipe and it works flawlessly.
This is a game you should enjoy and that's all that should be done.

[markuswolfe]

Originally posted by serega_morozov:

Originally posted by Wolfgang:

1) Once there are no precission issues with that.
2) Use alt recipies and get rid of the screws entirely. I highly recommend the alt recipe "Heavy Encased Frame".

Thx, but I already opened all alt recipes, and use them everywhere when it's profitable. Heavy modular frames is only example for bad screws balance in most of the recipes.

Heavy Encased Frame is objectively superior to the base recipe in every way unless you have a concrete shortage. It has a better input: output ratio for the other components while also having a higher production rate. Switch recipes and you'll be killing 2 birds with one stone.

[Phoenix Cat]

Everyone keeps talking about the heavy frame alt recipe. I have went thru a lot of alt recipes and have yet to come across that one. Really wish I would. Tired of using the screws.

[Whispdragoon62]

Honestly make a blueprint that stacks 10-12 constructors with 1 input and 1 output that feeds and powers every constructor. Basically a cube of constructors. Just feed iron in and screws out. The exact rate doesn't really matter. Its very easy to spam 2-3 blueprints for 20-30 constructors and copy-paste the iron ingot -> screws recipe.

Now just run 3 conveyor belts stacked at 600per minute or so and when one belt is around 90% consumed just route in the second belt. Etc. Etc.

Don't worry about which machines are saturated etc. Just have excess capacity to ensure every single input resource is ultimately converted into the output resources. This is the way.

I route the Iron ingots to the factory and have pre-set blueprints like "93pm iron into 4pm smart plate" or "105pm iron ingot to 5pm modular frame" to sort of keep track of how much iron I am using. When I am unable to feed the next blueprint I just belt in another ~600-700 iron ingots again.

[Jimmy]

Well... this sounds like a 2 belts problem. Have you guys even seen BIG builds? search for IMKibitz (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9BR3jEdGPI) on Youtube - no more than a mark 5 needed. You have to make the game your own not the other way around.

[greeny]

Originally posted by Wolfgang:

Originally posted by serega_morozov:

Thx, but I already opened all alt recipes, and use them everywhere when it's profitable. Heavy modular frames is only example for bad screws balance in most of the recipes.

There is a reason why you should remove screws entirely from your whole factory. And it is possible with alt recipes.

You are screwed anyway if you use screws in the long term.

There is no reason to remove screws. If you're having issues with screws, you're having issues with high-throughput items, not screws directly (and will have same issues with wire and quickwire).

Instead build screw constructors directly in front of machines that need those screws, especially with steel screws you can feed one or more machines directly from that (and clock speed is your friend to make it a nice ratio).