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Werric Aug 22, 2020 @ 1:52pm
Ran out of coal!
Just had that happen to me. I know the nodes are infinite but my miner just stopped producing coal. The story is below.

Went to put in another batch of coal generators and upgrade to MKII miners. So I checked the current generators and they were running out of coal. Checked the belts and there was little to no coal on them. Checked miner and it just wasn't producing coal. It had power everything was connected it just didn't mine any coal for the 30-60 secs I watched.

Disconnected that miner from the belts, put a MKII down on the second coal node, connected it up to the belts and all was fine. Scratching my head I put a MKII down on the original node connected power and it's producing like a champion.

I have no idea why the original mine (a MKI) just stopped producing. Power usage for my entire system at the time this was noticed was around 330 out of 600KW available. Anyone have any ideas or maybe has had this happen to them?
Originally posted by matke587:
I had a similar issue with a miner on a normal iron node. Worked fine for several hours. Then without me changing anything, it suddenly started spitting iron on to the belt at random. When I checked the mine it's internal supply was 0 iron ore, and occasionally it would tick over 1 and spit it onto the belt.

Guessing it is a bug. As when I logged out and back in again it worked fine. The belt filled up fast and the mines internal supply went up fairly fast to 100!
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Vyndicu Aug 22, 2020 @ 2:02pm 
My best guess is the original miner mk 1 wasn't connected to the grid or output wasn't properly connected to a belt. I had the later happened to me before.
Werric Aug 22, 2020 @ 2:23pm 
A little more clarification as I did check all that when I noticed the problem.

The original was the only miner supplying coal to my generators and had been doing so for maybe 10-20 rl hours without a hitch. My power grid has been happily percolating along at around 330kw for all that time.
Vyndicu Aug 22, 2020 @ 2:34pm 
600 kw is 8 coal powerplant in total assuming no overclock or underclock.

One coal powerplant running at approximately 50% (330 kw used out of 600 kw) consume about 7.5 coal per minute. Time that by 8 is roughly 60 coal per minute.

A miner mk 1 actual yield depends on the purity of the deposit. Mk 1 miner on an impure coal deposit will only give 30 coal per minute. Mk1 on normal will give you 60 coal per minute. Mk 1 on pure deposit will give you 120 coal per minute.


Since changing to mk 2 miner fixed the issue. I think it is likely that your coal deposit was impure and was insufficient to supply more power spike above 300 kw long-term.
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Evilsod Aug 22, 2020 @ 2:39pm 
Originally posted by Werric:
A little more clarification as I did check all that when I noticed the problem.

The original was the only miner supplying coal to my generators and had been doing so for maybe 10-20 rl hours without a hitch. My power grid has been happily percolating along at around 330kw for all that time.

Unless you encountered a bug (which you did absolutely nothing to identify and have provided no useful evidence at all to replicate from the devs perspective), I think it's safe to say that it was not connected to a power supply.

It happens. I eventually went back to my Fuel Generators to figure out why the hell the power kept dropping, only to discover I'd accidentally removed a power pole to one of my two Oil Extractors.
Shadow Draxis Aug 22, 2020 @ 2:56pm 
if it was an impure node it produces 60/m and tier 1 belt is 60/m. Did you upgrade your belt to like t3 or 4? it makes it seem like its not working, but t3 belts move 240/m i think.
Grandaddypurple Aug 22, 2020 @ 2:56pm 
Were the coal ores spread evenly on the belt or was it more like random?
Werric Aug 22, 2020 @ 3:19pm 
The coal node is normal. Set up was a MKI miner with T2 belts. Power was connected to the grid as it was still drawing the 330kw. The miner was connected to that grid and it's light was yellow. Checking the miner and it just wasn't producing. Then back to my OP and replacing it with a MKII had it producing again. As of writing this that node is now supplying my second coal generation plant.

The last time I checked before this issue the coal was actually fully backed up to the miner and shuffling along as needed. When I got there this time the coal was basically non-existent.

The reason I went was because I knew at 330KW I was right on the limit (slightly over) of keeping a steady supply of coal to the generators and it was time to upgrade the miner. I expected to see some gaps in the coal supply line. What I didn't expect was the miner to not be producing.
Evilsod Aug 22, 2020 @ 3:38pm 
You turned the Miner off.
Werric Aug 22, 2020 @ 3:44pm 
Originally posted by Evilsod:
You turned the Miner off.

:)) No. It just wasn't producing. It was connected to power confirmed by me following the line and the light on the miner being yellow. It wasn't green because it wasn't producing it was just sitting there doing nothing.
Evilsod Aug 22, 2020 @ 3:47pm 
Originally posted by Werric:
Originally posted by Evilsod:
You turned the Miner off.

:)) No. It just wasn't producing. It was connected to power confirmed by me following the line and the light on the miner being yellow. It wasn't green because it wasn't producing it was just sitting there doing nothing.

I already covered that and you were adamant it was. That's not what I said.

You turned the miner off with the on/off switch. That is the only way you end up with a miner with power connected but a yellow 'standby' light showing.
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Werric Aug 22, 2020 @ 3:53pm 
Sorry I don't mean to sound like Mr Knowitall when answering people who make suggestions. I just realised that might be how my responses sound.

I was initially shocked that the miner was sitting there doing nothing. Then I went into connect the other node to the belt mode and then I went and checked and rechecked power etc. The second miner I connected to power using the same power pole as the original one and it wasn't until the second miner was up and running that I disconnected the power line from the original.
Werric Aug 22, 2020 @ 4:01pm 
Originally posted by Evilsod:
Originally posted by Werric:

:)) No. It just wasn't producing. It was connected to power confirmed by me following the line and the light on the miner being yellow. It wasn't green because it wasn't producing it was just sitting there doing nothing.

I already covered that and you were adamant it was. That's not what I said.

You turned the miner off with the on/off switch. That is the only way you end up with a miner with power connected but a yellow 'standby' light showing.

Not true. When a miner stops producing ore because it has 100 stored in it the light turns yellow. I have stood and watched that happen. Plus the light was yellow as I walked up to the miner which was before I pressed "E" to see what was happening. Also when I arrived there was still the odd coal or five coming down the belt but not the steady flow I expected. By the time I got halfway to the miner the belts were empty of coal.

The generators are about 200m from the miner and you have to walk past the generators to get to the miner. So I couldn't have turned off the miner while at the generators.
Evilsod Aug 22, 2020 @ 4:25pm 
I didn't think I had to be that specific, but I should've known you'd comment on it being yellow if its full... despite that not being relevant.

What is more likely here?

Option one:
You've encounter a bug.
One that just so happened to occur when you have openly admitted you were fiddling with the system to upgrade it? A bug that you also have basically no information on, didn't test and have given people next to nothing to replicate.

OR

Option two:
You accidentally disconnected the power to the miner/turned it off manually when you were fiddling with it.

Honestly, there is nothing more to discuss here. My monies on the latter, you broke the system by accident. It is the infinitely more likely option and we have nothing to go off to prove the former.
Werric Aug 22, 2020 @ 6:46pm 
Neither is your assumption that I turned off the miner relevant. You just assume that is what happened. However correcting your misinformation about when the light can be yellow is relevant. Funny how you're criticizing me for not providing information but you're happy to provide incorrect information.

Yes I admitted that I went there to upgrade the system. I never openly admitted to fiddling with the system when this happened. That is something else you have assumed.

Honestly you don't read what I write or if you do you just discount it or you just don't understand it. I'm not sure what part of the light was on and the power was connected you don't understand. I'm not sure what part of there was no coal on the belts as I walked the approx 200m from the generators to the miner you don't understand. I'm not sure how you think I turned it off or to standby from 200m away.

You're right though I have no information on the (maybe) bug. I pressed "E" on the miner and it wasn't producing coal. There was just the window without a "No Power" message or any other message in my face. It was just the window with no coal being produced.

I provided information in my posts about the entire set up of the system from node quality to miner to generators to belts and to average power output. Also information that the system had been running smoothly for 10-20 rl hours and was still outputting the required 330KW even as the coal reserves in the generators were dwindling. I even gave a description of what I saw as I walked from the generators to the miner. I also gave the information that I have to walk past the generators to get to the miner so it is impossible for me to turn the miner off while at the generators. But you're right I gave "basically no information". I'm a bad boy and I am only doing this to get attention.

Thank you for giving me the attention I was craving when I made this post.

For others who replied with suggestions thank you.

Replacing the miner solved whatever the issue was and as I've said it is happily producing coal and feeding a second set of 8 coal generators.

So on that note I bid you all and this thread farewell.
Evilsod Aug 23, 2020 @ 2:15am 
Wtf are you even thanking? Are you that so far up your own arse that you can't accept that maybe you made a mistake?
Nobody offered you any other suggestions because there aren't any.

Replacing the miner didn't 'fix' a bug, it replaced a miner that was off with a miner that was on. The more you fight against this, the more its obvious this is the answer.

There was no bug.

And yes, you have given no information. What does any of that 'background' you gave do for helping to replicate it? I'll tell you: Nothing.
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