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Ace May 5, 2023 @ 1:55am
The next step from biofuel is to coal power thanks for letting me know.
I finished building my coal power plant which has 24 coal generators and produces 1860 MW of power this is a lot better than trying to get by with biofuel alone, sorry for the noob questions and thanks for the help.
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Originally posted by Mobscene:
Originally posted by Howard:
Originally posted by Die Hand Gottes:
Well he should still deal with the coal
than to think about things that have been rejected by the developers for ages - that's why it was about the automation of biomass.

I started a new world and its gone way better than last time, still not at coal yet but the power issues are gone with a change of strategy.

I started simply placing the required biomass generators for each factory on an ore node and making many grids rather than one grid.

Now if I want iron items, I start the iron factories up, same for copper and limestone factories. This way I only use a small amount of biomass generators at a time which needs less harvesting by hand and wastes less than if I tried to do one mega grid.

I only have about 30 hours now and I did not think "things that have been rejected by the developers for ages" rather I thought that it was odd in a game about automation that they seem to have skipped biomass automation.

This seems excessively tedious. Others have already explained that you just get to Coal Power, go set it up and forget it, until you need to expand. You aren't "saving" or "wasting" Biomass by using a lot of small grids. Biomass Power is consumed by usage. If nothing is running connected to Biomass Power, none is used. For example, if you set up a Burner and attach it to a miner, once the miner has filled it's capacity, it will halt and no Biomass will continue to be used.

You're basically just handicapping yourself by splitting everything up into a bunch of small grids. You basically just want everything running at all times, unless it fills a storage container and the production turns itself off due to max capacity.

You can generally get Coal Power automated really early in a game without using too much Biomass. I like to get Solid Biomass production semi-automated quickly by getting the Chainsaw research and making a small build near my Biomass Burners to just dump Leaves/Wood into. Then just use that as a temporary backup that kicks on if Coal Power gets to the point it isn't enough for a short time. 2 Storage containers, one each for Leaves/Wood, each feeding into 2 Constructors making Biomass, which merge back into one belt into another Constructor making Solid Biomass which feeds into a final storage next to my Burners.

If you're actually having to run around collecting leaves/wood more than a few times(using the Chainsaw) then you're pretty much just wasting your time. Get to Coal, set up 8-16 Coal Generators and you should be good for quite a while. Then if/when you need more power, just go expand that again, unless you got to the next tier of power before that point.

The great thing about setting up the Coal Power is that once you set it up(can be anywhere on the map with Coal + Water), you pretty much never need to visit again until you need to expand it again. The best places early on that I usually use are that lake just north of the Grass Fields with 4 Coal nodes, or the Crater Lakes. 8 Coal Generators + 3 Water Extractors per block is what most people use I believe. Whenever you need to expand, just make another block.
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Die Hand Gottes May 5, 2023 @ 2:17am 
How many times the still this question no will not officially exist only with mod.
Biomass is only the transition phase to coal.
And if you have power outages then you just have to build more power plants.
I have in the game always an overproduction (currently over 70 GW)
You should always watch your energy and only build factories when the power is still enough.
I have as soon as I had unlocked the thermal power plants built power lines there to all 18 places across the map and long these also used as a zip line it is all no problem to lay long lines.
Now I have eh her whole map developed and everywhere electricity.


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Kolopaper May 5, 2023 @ 2:31am 
Just run coal. As you play, more and more resources will be way further than your original base, its natural. You can also find a spot near the coal to run your generators which require water as well, and just run a single wire to your base instead of the entire belt.
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kLuns May 5, 2023 @ 2:42am 
it's called habit
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OBXandos May 5, 2023 @ 3:07am 
Originally posted by Howard:
I have about 10 biomass generators and it takes quite a bit of manual harvesting to keep them running constantly, the coal is not a reasonable distance away to use. I have been running my factory on power that is less than required by not using all machines at once, its just the spikes need to be accounted for and to do that I make more generators which in turn causes it to take even longer to harvest fuel from the plants and also they consume far more fuel. I guess the problem I am facing is a softlock in this world because of this so I guess I will just start over in a new world and pick my main base spot closer to coal somehow without the detector upgrade you need to find coal.
You can turn the aggressiveness of the enemies off in the advanced game options if you want. All coal is going to be about that far away from any of the starting locations. In some locations the water will be pretty far too. That is just one of the challenges of this game.

Fill your inventory up with a lot of concrete, iron plates/rods, and enough parts to make power poles and a miner and head over to the coal node. I would also turn off everything in your base before you leave. Wildlife won't attack your conveyors or anything so just build a long belt and run the coal back to your base. Shouldn't take too long. Remember you can just build foundations over gaps and up cliffs and walk straight over to your destination.

Also if you didn't know the maps and starting locations are just one giant pre-generated map. The different starts are just different locations on the same map. You could just walk over to them right now if you wanted.
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DaBa May 5, 2023 @ 3:58am 
Wait, so you don't want to automate coal power because... it's too far away from your base? Huh? You realize this will be a thing for many other resources too, no? It's just one of the problems the game presents to you and expects you to solve. Not sure what you're really expecting playing this game.

Also, just think for a moment: why is it even a problem that it's far away? It's just a power plant, it's not like you have to keep visiting it... ideally you set it up once and leave it be.
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Wolfgang May 5, 2023 @ 4:21am 
Just wait until you need oil. You will have to travel a very long distance for that.
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Philbo May 5, 2023 @ 5:17am 
Build the coal generators near the coal and water. Just run a power line to them. You'll be fine. 1km isn't far at all.
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Die Hand Gottes May 5, 2023 @ 5:36am 
Originally posted by Howard:
I have about 10 biomass generators and it takes quite a bit of manual harvesting to keep them running constantly, the coal is not a reasonable distance away to use. I have been running my factory on power that is less than required by not using all machines at once, its just the spikes need to be accounted for and to do that I make more generators which in turn causes it to take even longer to harvest fuel from the plants and also they consume far more fuel. I guess the problem I am facing is a softlock in this world because of this so I guess I will just start over in a new world and pick my main base spot closer to coal somehow without the detector upgrade you need to find coal.
Turn off the things
Build on coal and later comes even better power generator.
I had just 5 the two on the hub and three extra that I have not even always loaded.
I had no desire to always run after them have not even made the better biomass much made by hand and quickly to the coal.
To focus on biomass is counterproductive.
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Die Hand Gottes May 5, 2023 @ 5:39am 
Originally posted by OBXandos:
Also if you didn't know the maps and starting locations are just one giant pre-generated map. The different starts are just different locations on the same map. You could just walk over to them right now if you wanted.

Not only that, you can also just build on the whole map.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2926742129
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Illuminia May 5, 2023 @ 5:48am 
Yeah, the game really intends for biomass to be a temporary power solution. That's why many players rush for Coal Power - because once it's setup and working correctly, you don't have to do anything else to it. (Other than expanding for more power later).

If you are only wanting Coal for Power right now (you'll need more Coal later for other things...)
The solution is relatively simple - just make a very long power line. There's no power loss over distance, so could could build power lines literally from one end of the map to the other.

Many of the resources you will want later are even further away from your base.
"Logistics" transport of materials is one of the major reoccurring challenges of this game.

You will eventually need to travel around roughly 1/4 of the entire game map, (almost no matter where you start or build a "home base"); hunting for other new resources and building different sorts of remote factories and logistics material transport methods.
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Die Hand Gottes May 5, 2023 @ 6:02am 
As a tip, build your power plants on the waterfront and transport the coal there rather than the water, which tends to get pulled around in long lines, and when you overclock power plants, it doesn't work well anymore.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2931502714
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2921616599
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2876262246
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Krieger May 5, 2023 @ 7:25am 
My advice: The game wants you to explore, eventually you will have stripped it to the coal anyway :P i would build my power plants near coal and water and run cables back home rather than a miner n a generator n cables back to base anyway n wait for coal to arrive.

Originally posted by Die Hand Gottes:
Originally posted by OBXandos:
Also if you didn't know the maps and starting locations are just one giant pre-generated map. The different starts are just different locations on the same map. You could just walk over to them right now if you wanted.

Not only that, you can also just build on the whole map.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2926742129

while i appreciate your map images and the time it would have taken, you post those images in posts real often and i get you wanna show them off, though even if it means spoiling the game for someone?
i know i would not want to see the complete map when i first started, it's the reason the game has a fog of war.
i've put in ..700 hours(?) 870 :D n still don't wanna know :D
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Die Hand Gottes May 5, 2023 @ 7:29am 
Originally posted by Bobisme:
while i appreciate your map images and the time it would have taken, you post those images in posts real often and i get you wanna show them off, though even if it means spoiling the game for someone?
i know i would not want to see the complete map when i first started, it's the reason the game has a fog of war.
These are just the pictures that I always take as an example because here again and again the same questions come.
Most are just too lazy to use the search function in the forum.

You are the first to complain from many others I get compliments
I will not change the pictures say more than words and recently also videos.

I would also have 350 screenshots from Satisfactory
could post all of them.
Last edited by Die Hand Gottes; May 5, 2023 @ 7:36am
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Krieger May 5, 2023 @ 7:36am 
Originally posted by Die Hand Gottes:
Originally posted by Bobisme:
while i appreciate your map images and the time it would have taken, you post those images in posts real often and i get you wanna show them off, though even if it means spoiling the game for someone?
i know i would not want to see the complete map when i first started, it's the reason the game has a fog of war.
These are just the pictures that I always take as an example because here again and again the same questions come.
Most are just too lazy to use the search function in the forum.

You are the first to complain from many others I get compliments
I will not change the pictures say more than words and recently also videos.

I would also have 350 screenshots from Satisfactory
could post all of them.

i was thinking of making a post of ppls most elaborate builds, there's some amazing stuff :D

EDIT: misread your comment
Last edited by Krieger; May 5, 2023 @ 7:41am
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Die Hand Gottes May 5, 2023 @ 7:42am 
Originally posted by Bobisme:
i was thinking of making a post of ppls most elaborate builds, there some amazing stuff :D
Yes I know you just need to go to YT
and under my pictures you will see the one or the other construction e.g. my largest train spiral that has taken a couple of days.
These are my videos and I am still harmless against others
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9KCndj4c_SXV8PZCwuP7CQz66RHW_y2k
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