I am Saddened...

[tj2g]

I love this game! Now that is out of the way...

I am saddened I'm seeing other early access games on console and not this one. Techtonica recently arrived on console and it's basically another automation game that is in early development.

I've seen Satisfactory is not going to console until it's fully released. I personally feel this may not be the right move. I think of this with the concept of time value of money, the sooner you do something about it the better off you'd be. More revenue could be collected early on, more people discussing the game could help make the game better and the learning for the developers to make both PC and console changes/updates for both at the same time would be figured out sooner.

There are a lot of people that would rather play on console than on PC for many different reasons that I'm pretty sure almost everyone has heard.

I'm just saddened other games are making it to rather large communities sooner and I feel this one could be a big one on console...

[MrLoup]

Disclaimer: I am no game developing expert, this is just my feeling. It may be bullsh*t

You cannot just copy/paste your game to make it operational to console. You need a dedicated team that "translate" your game for the console hardware and tackle the new issues arisen due to that. It means that your team must be bigger, with more testing and community feedback. I am not sure that money-wise, it is interesting.

It is probably easier to finish the game and them to make it for console. Imagine writing a book and translating it at the same time. Each time you make a change in the original one, you must change it also in all translations.

[tj2g]

Originally posted by MrLoup:

Disclaimer: I am no game developing expert, this is just my feeling. It may be bullsh*t

You cannot just copy/paste your game to make it operational to console. You need a dedicated team that "translate" your game for the console hardware and tackle the new issues arisen due to that. It means that your team must be bigger, with more testing and community feedback. I am not sure that money-wise, it is interesting.

It is probably easier to finish the game and them to make it for console. Imagine writing a book and translating it at the same time. Each time you make a change in the original one, you must change it also in all translations.

I don't disagree to anything you are saying and not saying it would be easy. I'm saying the sooner it's done, the sooner the differences between the two can be worked out. If you're waiting until it's finished to rewrite for console, you're already behind. As far as the money is concerned, even an early access game can be sold on console. I have Game Pass for Xbox and Techtonica is "free" on that so had to go look at the store for it and they are charging $30 for it. That is nothing to laugh at as far as revenue is concerned.

[curtyuiop]

console gaming sucks, you can't make a game on a console like you can on PC. Most people want to play on PC but they are more expensive, don't ever say people want to play on consoles more than pc. All console games were made on a PC first. your statement above is completely false.

[werwolfgaming]

Originally posted by tj2g:

Originally posted by MrLoup:

Disclaimer: I am no game developing expert, this is just my feeling. It may be bullsh*t

You cannot just copy/paste your game to make it operational to console. You need a dedicated team that "translate" your game for the console hardware and tackle the new issues arisen due to that. It means that your team must be bigger, with more testing and community feedback. I am not sure that money-wise, it is interesting.

It is probably easier to finish the game and them to make it for console. Imagine writing a book and translating it at the same time. Each time you make a change in the original one, you must change it also in all translations.

I don't disagree to anything you are saying and not saying it would be easy. I'm saying the sooner it's done, the sooner the differences between the two can be worked out. If you're waiting until it's finished to rewrite for console, you're already behind. As far as the money is concerned, even an early access game can be sold on console. I have Game Pass for Xbox and Techtonica is "free" on that so had to go look at the store for it and they are charging $30 for it. That is nothing to laugh at as far as revenue is concerned.

other points is this. the fact the devs for this game dont have a set timeline for the game so they dont even know when it will be released add in needing to code for multiple platforms onto that. it will make the game update EVEN slower than it is now

[werwolfgaming]

Originally posted by curtyuiop:

console gaming sucks, you can't make a game on a console like you can on PC. Most people want to play on PC but they are more expensive, don't ever say people want to play on consoles more than pc. All console games were made on a PC first. your statement above is completely false.

false theres multiple games developed on consoles then ported to pc examples being god of war being developed on ps before pc all pokemon games are only developed for switch not pc same with most other nintendo games pretty sure call off duty was developed for xbox before pc hogwarts legacy was developed on ps before it was ported to pc so no not all games are developed on pc actually most devs choose to focus on xbox or ps to develop thair games on then port it to it to pc as its easier to optimize stuff for consoles

[Nauskills]

Originally posted by curtyuiop:

console gaming sucks, you can't make a game on a console like you can on PC. Most people want to play on PC but they are more expensive, don't ever say people want to play on consoles more than pc. All console games were made on a PC first. your statement above is completely false.

A lot of games run better on console than on Pc, stop acting like Pc is the only place people should enjoy video games, that's some corny early console war mentality.

[tj2g]

Originally posted by werwolfgaming:

Originally posted by curtyuiop:

console gaming sucks, you can't make a game on a console like you can on PC. Most people want to play on PC but they are more expensive, don't ever say people want to play on consoles more than pc. All console games were made on a PC first. your statement above is completely false.

false theres multiple games developed on consoles then ported to pc examples being god of war being developed on ps before pc all pokemon games are only developed for switch not pc same with most other nintendo games pretty sure call off duty was developed for xbox before pc hogwarts legacy was developed on ps before it was ported to pc so no not all games are developed on pc actually most devs choose to focus on xbox or ps to develop thair games on then port it to it to pc as its easier to optimize stuff for consoles

I don't want anyone hating on anything. To say console or PC is better is not the topic of this conversation and has been argued many times in many other topics. No one truly knows why anyone wants any game on PC or console as like I said there are a multitude of reasons for both. I do know that the console audience is very, very, very large and not to have a spot in that is a very, very, very large missed opportunity.

[Aven]

Console support, like controller support, is simply an unnecessary distraction while they are still trying to develop the core game and storyline.

[stevej018]

consoles are dead weight, no one is playing games on console afaik

[Wolfgang]

Originally posted by stevej018:

consoles are dead weight, no one is playing games on console afaik

125 Millon sold Nintendo Switch units are disagreeing with you.

[Die Hand Gottes]

With this controller control they would only annoy the console players.
Satisfaktory is the first game after a very long time where I had to get used to mouse keyboard control and so really used to it I have even after over 2300 hours still not used to it use some features not even from the keyboard.

[curtyuiop]

Originally posted by werwolfgaming:

Originally posted by curtyuiop:

console gaming sucks, you can't make a game on a console like you can on PC. Most people want to play on PC but they are more expensive, don't ever say people want to play on consoles more than pc. All console games were made on a PC first. your statement above is completely false.

false theres multiple games developed on consoles then ported to pc examples being god of war being developed on ps before pc all pokemon games are only developed for switch not pc same with most other nintendo games pretty sure call off duty was developed for xbox before pc hogwarts legacy was developed on ps before it was ported to pc so no not all games are developed on pc actually most devs choose to focus on xbox or ps to develop thair games on then port it to it to pc as its easier to optimize stuff for consoles

You can't write programs with a controller.

[werwolfgaming]

Originally posted by curtyuiop:

Originally posted by werwolfgaming:

false theres multiple games developed on consoles then ported to pc examples being god of war being developed on ps before pc all pokemon games are only developed for switch not pc same with most other nintendo games pretty sure call off duty was developed for xbox before pc hogwarts legacy was developed on ps before it was ported to pc so no not all games are developed on pc actually most devs choose to focus on xbox or ps to develop thair games on then port it to it to pc as its easier to optimize stuff for consoles

You can't write programs with a controller.

are u dumb did i state they CODED on ps5 i said THEY CODED for ps5 now think what would that mean it would mean the code is made to optimize the perfromance on the ps5 when launching the game on there if the code is not optimized for pc the code would not work so even if u code a game on A PC u can make that code basically only work for ps or xbox

[Aven]

Originally posted by werwolfgaming:

are u dumb did i state they CODED on ps5 i said THEY CODED for ps5 now think what would that mean it would mean the code is made to optimize the perfromance on the ps5 when launching the game on there if the code is not optimized for pc the code would not work so even if u code a game on A PC u can make that code basically only work for ps or xbox

Yes, but:

Originally posted by werwolfgaming:

false theres multiple games developed on consoles then ported to pc examples being god of war being developed on ps before pc all pokemon games are only developed for switch not pc same with most other nintendo games pretty sure call off duty was developed for xbox before pc hogwarts legacy was developed on ps before it was ported to pc so no not all games are developed on pc actually most devs choose to focus on xbox or ps to develop thair games on then port it to it to pc as its easier to optimize stuff for consoles

Not once did you mention coding. You mentioned development, which for our purposes can be seen as synonymous with coding, so it's no surprise that you elicit some confusion when you say "developed on consoles" numerous times throughout your post. The run-on paragraph with no punctuation or capitalization doesn't help your cause, either.

However, it really doesn't matter what the rest of the gaming industry does or doesn't do in regards to consoles. All that matters is what the developers of Satisfactory feel is necessary, and if you refer to the stickied FAQ at the top of the forum:

Originally posted by snutt:

Will Satisfactory be available on consoles or Linux/Mac?
There are currently no plans for any release on console or Linux/Mac. We might do it in the future.

[Blake]

Originally posted by stevej018:

consoles are dead weight, no one is playing games on console afaik

I bought and play Demon Souls/FF16 on PS5. That's it. I have an Xbox Series X purely for playing 4k/Blurays. That's it.

PC for everything else...