How much height up can a pipe go without needing an upward flow pump?

[Mr Fantastic]

Does 1m already need a pump?

[hanrahan6]

It is 10m but I would recommend using a pump sooner because it does seem to go slower the closer to 10 it gets.

[Mr Fantastic]

Originally posted by hanrahan6:

It is 10m but I would recommend using a pump sooner because it does seem to go slower the closer to 10 it get s.

The extractor and refinery both mention 10m uplift, does this mean that height loss is calculated throughout the whole pipe at the same time? Which would mean I only need a pump after those 20 from extractor and refinery?

[hanrahan6]

Originally posted by Mr Fantastic:

Originally posted by hanrahan6:

It is 10m but I would recommend using a pump sooner because it does seem to go slower the closer to 10 it get s.

The extractor and refinery both mention 10m uplift, does this mean that height loss is calculated throughout the whole pipe at the same time? Which would mean I only need a pump after those 20 from extractor and refinery?

That is a good question and I do not know the answer to it.
Although, it would make sense that if the refinery is 10m above the extractor, you could go up another 10m before need the pump.

[Omega420]

This awesome video by TotalXclipse explains it all very well...

https://youtu.be/LzVVx1ubGxY

[Die Hand Gottes]

Water pumps by themselves already have a pumping capacity of 20 meters above that you need a pump.

If you would be a little more proactive, you can find most things easily with Aunt Google.
Or in the Satisfactory Wiki

[Vectorspace]

Originally posted by Mr Fantastic:

Originally posted by hanrahan6:

It is 10m but I would recommend using a pump sooner because it does seem to go slower the closer to 10 it get s.

The extractor and refinery both mention 10m uplift, does this mean that height loss is calculated throughout the whole pipe at the same time? Which would mean I only need a pump after those 20 from extractor and refinery?

No. Head lift only changes though a pipe system, not through machines. The refinery output pipe will have 10m of headlift regardless of the input pipe headlift

[Illuminia]

Caveat: Liquid Storage Buffers.
Both pipes are both input & output at same time, which can cause some odd behavior. If your input flow to a storage stops and is not a full pipe, the storage may try to push out through what you consider to be the "input" pipe.

Storages connected together will try to "share" and equalize the liquid between them; so the levels may bounce around.

The amount of output push or Head lift from a Liquid Storage will vary depending on how much liquid is actually inside.
So a full storage will have a good amount of push, but but if it's nearly empty it won't have much head lift at all.

If head lift after a Liquid Storage is of any concern, it may be worth using a pump just to make sure you'll have it (as long as there is still enough liquid in the storage to flow outwards. If storage is low , it may not output enough liquid for the pump to do anything with.)


I don't fully understand it all myself ; but that's the high level of what i learned when dealing with storage in my old Oil plant.
Unless you're planning to fill train liquid tanker(s), liquid storage may be more trouble than it's worth. (and if you are, consider Packaging the liquid for transport instead?)

[mansman]

Also, head lift does not stack. If you place 2 pumps next to each other, you still only have head lift from the second pump in your pipe.

[Mr Fantastic]

Originally posted by mansman:

Also, head lift does not stack. If you place 2 pumps next to each other, you still only have head lift from the second pump in your pipe.

How can you transport a liquid across a big ravine if you need the liquid to go up 50m? Can you make stops at every 10 or 15m and install an upward pump?

[Illuminia]

Originally posted by Mr Fantastic:

Originally posted by mansman:

Also, head lift does not stack. If you place 2 pumps next to each other, you still only have head lift from the second pump in your pipe.

How can you transport a liquid across a big ravine if you need the liquid to go up 50m? Can you make stops at every 10 or 15m and install an upward pump?

Basically, yes. Mk1 Pumps say they provide "Maximum Head Lift: 20 meters." each, so before that 20 meters height is reached, you would place another pump.

When you are building a pump, a blue "pulse" runs along the pipe in the direction of flow - this shows the "Head Lift" the pump would provide.... so you can watch as it slows down or a solid blue ring on the pipe when the head lift would stop.

..... it can be hard to align your view from where you want to build it and still be able to watch the pulse though.
I personally end up building pumps that are probably closer than they really "need" to be just to be covered.

[Omega420]

Sigh... Just watch the YouTube video I linked. It will explain everything anyone would ever need to know about pipes.

[Mihle]

There is mk2 pumps you get later that has 50m headlift.