Satisfactory

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Mr Fantastic Dec 21, 2022 @ 5:09am
Nearest coal deposit is 700m away, do you make a conveyor all the way?
same with sulfur and others
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Taco Cat Dec 21, 2022 @ 5:15am 
Build on site, transport final product or electricity.
Illuminia Dec 21, 2022 @ 5:45am 
Yeah, pretty much.

At some points, you might find yourself making remote factories for creating 1 specific item from a rare resource, and just a long conveyor to bring that end product back home....

But it's also viable to bring the mined resource back to your home base on a long conveyor, and build factories at your home base do build products with it.

Both options have good and bad points.... either way involves long conveyors. (Until you unlock other transport options later, which have their own tradeoffs).


If you only want Coal for power, the better option is to build a power plant near a Water source near the Coal, and just run a long power line back to your home.
(Later you will want some coal for other things, but you can worry about it then :) )
Mr Fantastic Dec 21, 2022 @ 6:19am 
Yea I need coal to upgrade energy generation, it's getting old having to run around cutting trees and making eating away 1000 solid pellets every 30min or so.

But I'm also going to need an insane amount to make steel, hopefully can find some iron near the coal to make a remote mini smelting operation and send back steel ingots and electricity.
Moldy Cheese Dec 21, 2022 @ 6:20am 
I have a conveyor line going from the green starting area (easy) all the way to the northern woods. Why? Because my goal is to have my conveyors to run at 780 items (mk5 speeds) at all times no gaps.
GobboKirk Dec 21, 2022 @ 6:21am 
Originally posted by Mr Fantastic:
Yea I need coal to upgrade energy generation, it's getting old having to run around cutting trees and making eating away 1000 solid pellets every 30min or so.

But I'm also going to need an insane amount to make steel, hopefully can find some iron near the coal to make a remote mini smelting operation and send back steel ingots and electricity.
Move the coal to water and not the water to coal would be the easiest route to go.
dendriti Dec 21, 2022 @ 6:35am 
I use trains because I have more than two factories, and the number/length of conveyors you would need to link a given number of resource nodes to the same network increases multiplicatively with the number of bases. While the number/length of train tracks/stations you needs increases additively.

For early game coal power plants, there are several coal deposits near water where you can set up a 8*2 power station, pump local water, and just run power lines.
Last edited by dendriti; Dec 21, 2022 @ 6:36am
Mr Fantastic Dec 21, 2022 @ 6:49am 
Originally posted by dendriti:
I use trains because I have more than two factories, and the number/length of conveyors you would need to link a given number of resource nodes to the same network increases multiplicatively with the number of bases. While the number/length of train tracks/stations you needs increases additively.

For early game coal power plants, there are several coal deposits near water where you can set up a 8*2 power station, pump local water, and just run power lines.

What do you mean by 8*2?

How many power stations can a single coal deposit feed and still have 100% clock speed? Same for water intake, a pump taking 20MW is a lot, when a station produces only 75
Last edited by Mr Fantastic; Dec 21, 2022 @ 6:56am
GobboKirk Dec 21, 2022 @ 6:52am 
Originally posted by Mr Fantastic:
Originally posted by dendriti:
I use trains because I have more than two factories, and the number/length of conveyors you would need to link a given number of resource nodes to the same network increases multiplicatively with the number of bases. While the number/length of train tracks/stations you needs increases additively.

For early game coal power plants, there are several coal deposits near water where you can set up a 8*2 power station, pump local water, and just run power lines.

What do you mean by 8*2?

How many power stations can a single coal deposit feed and still have 100% clock speed?
Depends on your miner and quality of node, but it's 15 coal/min for each power station.
Illuminia Dec 21, 2022 @ 6:58am 
Coal power is a bit complicated, and I have to look it up on the Wiki each fresh game re-start. Depending on your miner and the node quality, there's a lot of answers.
Water is usually the bigger problem.

For a first start, don't worry about optimizing it too much - you can always tackle that later when you need to build a 2nd coal power plant and are willing to look at a crazy guide (water piping setup gets complicated past ~4-6 generators).
Mr Fantastic Dec 21, 2022 @ 7:33am 
Originally posted by Illuminia:
Coal power is a bit complicated, and I have to look it up on the Wiki each fresh game re-start. Depending on your miner and the node quality, there's a lot of answers.
Water is usually the bigger problem.

For a first start, don't worry about optimizing it too much - you can always tackle that later when you need to build a 2nd coal power plant and are willing to look at a crazy guide (water piping setup gets complicated past ~4-6 generators).

I'm trying to build 2 stations since that's more or less how much power I need right now, found a nice spot right next to water, now just need to set things up, and find a way to reach the coal nodes that are up there in the ravines so I can harness them all.

As long as I can have automatic energy generation for all my needs all is good, just ttrying to understand how much coal and water intake I need for 2-3 stations so I don't waste too much energy.
SourHammer Dec 21, 2022 @ 7:41am 
A single pure node of coal with a MK1. miner can operate 8 coal generator. 8 Coal generators require 3 water extractors. So you get 540 MW of power after deducting the amount of power needed to operate the water extractors.
GobboKirk Dec 21, 2022 @ 7:42am 
Originally posted by Mr Fantastic:
Originally posted by Illuminia:
Coal power is a bit complicated, and I have to look it up on the Wiki each fresh game re-start. Depending on your miner and the node quality, there's a lot of answers.
Water is usually the bigger problem.

For a first start, don't worry about optimizing it too much - you can always tackle that later when you need to build a 2nd coal power plant and are willing to look at a crazy guide (water piping setup gets complicated past ~4-6 generators).

I'm trying to build 2 stations since that's more or less how much power I need right now, found a nice spot right next to water, now just need to set things up, and find a way to reach the coal nodes that are up there in the ravines so I can harness them all.

As long as I can have automatic energy generation for all my needs all is good, just ttrying to understand how much coal and water intake I need for 2-3 stations so I don't waste too much energy.
https://satisfactory-calculator.com/
Check out the power planner :)
Mr Fantastic Dec 21, 2022 @ 8:30am 
Originally posted by SourHammer:
A single pure node of coal with a MK1. miner can operate 8 coal generator. 8 Coal generators require 3 water extractors. So you get 540 MW of power after deducting the amount of power needed to operate the water extractors.

Thanks, I just made 2 with 1 mine and 1 pump, the pump can feed 3 of them with a bit of a loss, but had no idea a single mine could feed so many. Much easier now that I don't have to farm bio fuel or worry about energy.

I guess coal plants are a good representation of the real world and why it's so hard to move beyond them.
Akatosh Dec 21, 2022 @ 9:15am 
If you don't know yet, there are yellow/blue/purple slugs everywhere on the map; if you research them in the MAM you'll be able to craft an item you can put in any machine to overclock it. It is especially usefull with the mine, because it can boost the production to 250% for the cost of a bit more electricity.

Just keep in mind that your conveyor speed must be at least equal to the production.
It is usless to mine 300 coal/min if you can only carry 60/min.
Die Hand Gottes Dec 21, 2022 @ 10:26am 
You can use what you want
Conveyor belts, vehicles, train or drone
I use everything except vehicles have replaced some conveyors with trains but many I still have.
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