DEV please read: Desperate need to control the conveyor belt rate/flow need

[Mojiato]

Have you ever tried to make a optimum bus belt? Does it happen to you to have incredible amount of headed just to adjust the amount of IO on your belt? Yap that’s a real struggle because there is no flow/rate control mechanism!
Similar to the flow gauge you introduce for pipes, there should be a mechanise to adjust or limit item/second for a belt. This is necessary as any build based on a bus system is almost impossible to optimise without this. You recommend to use the performance control to adjust the output of factories for this aim, but it is practically useless as:
- Some factories are far away so for any change on the IO of the bus you need to visit all the production cites and adjust.
- Why doing that if you could adjust each belt speed separately and feed the over flow to the sink?!
I suggest you think of something exactly like the pipe gauge for conveyors where you can limit the output of the belt to a certain rate.
It can be a cube with one input and one output, or it can either be added to the adjustments of the computerised splutter.
Please look into it!

[queen's gambit]

Someone has probably already said as much, but if you could limit belt speed you wouldn't splitters and mergers, nor over and underclocking.

I'm sorry if I offend, but if your OCD is that severe you're just gonna have to math your way out of it.

[SilverthorneR33]

absolutely correct me if wrong, but I'm gathering that you want to put all of the materials needed for a specific factory on one belt. there is a relatively easy way to do what you're wanting and still maintain an effective flow. overflow splitting. so say you've got 20/min of one item coming on to the belt, 30/min of item 2, 5/min of item 3, and 2/min of item 4. you need 6/min of item 1, 25/min of item 2, 5/min of item 3, and 1/min of item 4. run the main branch on a belt capable of everything needed, then use two programmable splitters to pull the items to their own belts. now if one belt backed up that would be a problem as it would spill out onto the main bus and block the progress of the other items. Solution: container with an overflow splitter ahead of it on each individual conveyer after the split. that way you have a ready supply of each material should you decide to expand as well as never having your belt back up. the smart or programmable splitters with one output set to overflow would go just before the container, and the machine requiring each resource would go after the container. the overflow side of the splitter could be merged back with the other overflows and go to an awesome sink. that way you make coupons, never have a belt backup, and never have a need to perfectly balance every single system in your base. one of many solutions, but the easiest in my mind. Cheers

[Kraft51]

Mojionix eredeti hozzászólása:

Capt. Q. Schwartz eredeti hozzászólása:

Saturate the machine, and the belt will follow. You are creating a problem out of nothing but pure impatience.

you dont undrestant the scenario, and you seem to sure to even ask!
Move on,

no we all understand perfectly well, its you that doesn't understand ... theres no need for what you are requesting. you've been provided several viable solutions (that are in common practice amongst the majority of the playerbase) and choose to skoff at them and try and play them down as if they aren't intended for the player to engage in.

you are expected to find these type of solution on your own and in game, there might be mods that could accommodate your needs but i wouldn't know about what mods are even available. be clever, use your imagination and engineer your way through. couldn't imagine how you would have reacted back when we didn't even have Conveyor Lifts. we all started building corkscrew belt elevators, talk about tedious if you have to go up several floors.

[Lil Puppy]

A single line for everything that a production line needs is always, always a bad idea. If you have a single hiccup in your power or production or if production of 1 item is just .01 more than perfect, you will have a backup unless you use an awesome sink.

However, the problem exists when you start using slower belts and faster belts with splitters/mergers.

Each splitter/merger has a 10 item storage capacity after the line has saturated behind it.

When a fast belt passes through a splitter and that splitter is connected to slower output belts, some of the items will pass by the output it was intended for because an item in front of it was occupying the space already. This will clog up your line and your production will suffer and then it all breaks shortly after that.

Having an awesome sink at the end of your bus is the only way to maintain flow in these systems. This is a waste of 50MW of energy because you used a bus instead of separate manifolds/direct lines and ignored the lines being full of products at perfect ratios.

A bus system will never have perfect ratios or efficiency due to later products having odd ratios that will break bus systems very easily.

Variable speed conveyors cannot solve these problems, but if you really have to have a bus system for your odd little production system, you will have to use mods to accomplish it, if they exist. If they don't, you will have to use MATH and a lot of splitters/mergers to accomplish your goals like everyone else does.

[jhughes]

This Mod will also help you:

https://ficsit.app/mod/21TjhG1mpxxfz2

https://youtu.be/2D3oyWEK4zA

[Jerubius]

Wouldn't a simple solution to a bus be to go for maximum saturation, but stick an awesome sink on the end instead of looping? It's more wasteful, but so long as the splitters are set to overflow on the side that continues the bus, you never back up, and since things don't loop around you won't run into unused parts taking the place of new parts.

[Lil Puppy]

Jerubius eredeti hozzászólása:

Wouldn't a simple solution to a bus be to go for maximum saturation, but stick an awesome sink on the end instead of looping? It's more wasteful, but so long as the splitters are set to overflow on the side that continues the bus, you never back up, and since things don't loop around you won't run into unused parts taking the place of new parts.

The ONLY way to make a bus system work is with an awesome sink to prevent backups which will almost always happen.

[Master]

It would be a nice addition, indeed!