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Mr. Ape Jul 27, 2021 @ 9:34pm
Any reason to package nitrogen gas before transporting via Train?
Currently trying to bring nitrogen back to my main base and deciding whether I should package it or not. From my understanding, packaged nitrogen is 4 times more space efficient. However, you have to go through the whole packing / unpacking process, and then deal with the logistics of shipping empty bottles to where they are needed. All this takes power and space.

Why not just have 3 extra trains? Having 3 extra trains is not only simpler, but saves power and space. What's the advantage of packing / unpacking when you can simply add more trains?
Last edited by Mr. Ape; Jul 27, 2021 @ 9:35pm
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Schalimah Jul 28, 2021 @ 12:49am 
packing is only worth it if you want to transport it via conveyor or if you want to use the alternate turbo motor recipe that actually requires packaged nitrogen.

and why make additional trains if you can just add more carts.
Last edited by Schalimah; Jul 28, 2021 @ 12:50am
Grandaddypurple Jul 28, 2021 @ 2:49am 
For trains, it's actually 8 times more space efficient than in liquid:
1600m3 in fluid freight car
A "solid" freight can hold 32 stacks, the stack size of the packaged nitrogen is 100, and each hold 4m^3 of nitro
32*100*4 = 12800m^3
So you can compact 8 fluid freight cars into one single solid freight car, at the cost of a bit of power with the packagers.
You can recycle the fluid tanks easily. The space you saved can be used to redirect those into another freight car

TL;DR it's very useful if you're using a substential amount of nitrogen. If it's a temporary base to get you to Tier 8, don't bother with it
EDIT: it also depends on need and personal preference. If you're not struggling with space and power, and that you find fluid freight cars to look cooler (which I agree with), you could totally have 3 trains of 15 cars each with no downsides
Last edited by Grandaddypurple; Jul 28, 2021 @ 2:57am
Mojo Jul 28, 2021 @ 6:48am 
Is there a reason for Nitrogen gas? Just asking, havent played around with the game for Nitrogen as of yet.
NoClicksOnMe Jul 28, 2021 @ 10:34am 
Not really, and counting both ends would take more than a dozen packagers. So I tend to agree with what was already said, if you are only using it for a temp base, don't have a direct use for it, and aren't constrained for space or power it probably isn't worth it and is just easier to throw on a few fluid freight cars. Might be easier to package if you are setting up new trains, but thats more down to your setup and personal preference.

Originally posted by Mojo:
Is there a reason for Nitrogen gas? Just asking, havent played around with the game for Nitrogen as of yet.

It's needed for the T8 project assembly components and to build the Particle Accelerator. Other than that, its needed for MK3 Miners and Turbo Motors now as their base recipe has changed. You can get around the turbo motors with an alt recipe, but not for the MK3 miner or particle accelerator.
marcusaddamsson Jul 28, 2021 @ 10:48am 
Heh. My first experience with nitrogen was kinda funny. I looked at the recipe (I think it's the one in the blender to make the uber-mod-frames...) and went to my Aluminium plant, did a ton of work to bring in more bauxite, etc. 'cuz I needed the liquid 'aluminium solution' and setup a train car. Brought it all together in the middle of my crappy, spaghetti-fest base... only to find out they wanted nitrogen. the other silver-ish stuff in a pipe.

Then the only source of nitrogen I could find was at the bottom of a cliff, so I thought I'd build my first fluid tower... which was totally unncessary as nitrogen (in this game) doesn't need pumps to go up hill. Sigh.
Last edited by marcusaddamsson; Jul 28, 2021 @ 10:48am
Faustus Jul 29, 2021 @ 1:48pm 
Definitely worth packaging at the point of extract although I would suggest using a drone hub to take the packaged nitrogen gas to your processing plant and returning the now empty canisters.

Once the system is primed it is a perfect loop and in my build gave me more than enough nitrogen for all my T8 needs.

I chose drones as I'd no desire to build a train line or pipe network to the nitrogen vents from my well established bases.
Last edited by Faustus; Jul 29, 2021 @ 1:51pm
C2 Aug 1, 2021 @ 7:03am 
just run a pipe line i only use it to make fused frames and then make fissile uranium from nuclear waste that doggos give you.... There is no need for nuclear power and its just messy in my view uranium should have been in one place at least you could have a clean rad free map bar one certain area and that would be more of an incentive to build nuclear at present unless game forces you to produce nuclear stuff dont bother with it
marcusaddamsson Aug 1, 2021 @ 10:59am 
@Faustus.. I built my first drone ever, and used it to draw my nitrogen. Worked like a charm. TYVM.
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