Max Flow Oil Extractor

[MAX-K-29]

Hello

How did they go up to the maximum pump flow rate which is 600 m³ per minute, while the pipes have a maximum flow rate of 300 m³ per minute ??

[MAX-K-29]

Gecko の投稿を引用：

Well, no, you don't need 50,000-80,000MW of power. That would create an absurd output of materials that you don't need for anything currently in the game.

No one ever said I "Need" it. This is an open world sand box game. I built a factory that large because I *WANT IT*. There is a difference. In this game anyone can build anything as big as their mind and heart desires. If I want to build something large then I can build something large. Even if I don't need it. I still want to build a large factory so I did so. And large factories need insane power requirements. Even as big as my factory is I still find things to do and build in the game. [/quote]

My factory is currently under construction, for the moment, it is 130 square wide by 200 square long, I plan to make 8 floors, it may be smaller or larger for the moment, I don't know, but I I want to bring back as much mine as possible, as "AQUAFAWKS" says, everyone see what they want to do.
I currently have 10 fuel generators, overload at 250% and I do not produce enough electricity, I would need 10 more, but I am limited by the oil I find (2 Pure and 2 normal ) Hence my first question, which was "how to extract 600m³ with the oil pumps" I spent a good part of the night there, and NO, we cannot, even by putting several pipes at the exit of the pump.

I really hope for a Pipe MKII and / or MKIII in the near future.

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MAX-K-29 の投稿を引用：

My factory is currently under construction, for the moment, it is 130 square wide by 200 square long, I plan to make 8 floors, it may be smaller or larger for the moment, I don't know, but I I want to bring back as much mine as possible, as "AQUAFAWKS" says, everyone see what they want to do.
I currently have 10 fuel generators, overload at 250% and I do not produce enough electricity, I would need 10 more, but I am limited by the oil I find (2 Pure and 2 normal ) Hence my first question, which was "how to extract 600m³ with the oil pumps" I spent a good part of the night there, and NO, we cannot, even by putting several pipes at the exit of the pump.

I really hope for a Pipe MKII and / or MKIII in the near future.

You need this: https://ficsit.app/mod/FBgH7tfhC5qkBe

It's the only way.

[DrNewcenstein]

MAX-K-29 の投稿を引用：

I currently have 10 fuel generators, overload at 250% and I do not produce enough electricity, I would need 10 more, but I am limited by the oil I find (2 Pure and 2 normal )

You're looking at numbers in entirely the wrong way with regards to fluid. It's not the same as a physical product like what you see on a belt. Yes, the pipes have a max capacity of 300. With a Pure extractor pushing out 600, you have to split as close to the port as possible into 2 pipes, which will fill up almost instantly because they are being fed at a rate of twice their capacity. There's no bottleneck with fluids on the short 300m3 pipe coming out of the extractor and going straight into a junction feeding 2 pipes, because it's liquid, not solid. If your pipes are long enough, and they feed into enough generators to consume it as it comes in, and you have enough machines on a grid waiting for power which you can engage by connecting a single wire, your extractor will rarely cycle down, if that's your concern.

Each fuel generator at 100% consumes 15m3 of fuel. Each refinery outputs 100m3 (can't recall if that's at 250% or not).
6 fuel generators at 100% will consume 90m3, leaving 10m excess.
12 fuel generators at 100% will consume 180m3, leaving a total of 20m3 excess.
2 refineries producing 100m3 each can feed 25 fuel generators, as the 20m3 combined leftover will feed one more fuel generator.

I have this setup in one of my previous saves. It works. It doesn't starve for fuel. Then again I don't have multiple Assemblers and Manufacturers turning out identical parts, draining the power. I'm working on that for my current save because I wanted to experiment with real-world-style satellite factories being served by transportation, instead of massive mile-long ones with belts all over the place. Currently I have 18 fuel generators being fed by a single Pure at 600 and a Normal at 300, along with 8 coal generators, and it's more than enough for what I have built so far.

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DrNewcenstein の投稿を引用：

You're looking at numbers in entirely the wrong way with regards to fluid. It's not the same as a physical product like what you see on a belt. Yes, the pipes have a max capacity of 300. With a Pure extractor pushing out 600, you have to split as close to the port as possible into 2 pipes, which will fill up almost instantly because they are being fed at a rate of twice their capacity. There's no bottleneck with fluids on the short 300m3 pipe coming out of the extractor and going straight into a junction feeding 2 pipes, because it's liquid, not solid.

You are incorrect and wrong. I'm not trying to argue with you but just correct you with facts. Right now all pipes in this game are limited to 300 m3/min. It doesn't matter if the pipe is 1 inch long or 8 miles long, they're still limited to 300 m3/min. Even that "short pipe coming out of the extractor" is still limited to 300 m3/min. There is no possible way at the moment to extract a full 600 m3/min out of any oil extractor in the vanilla game. The only way is by using mods that give us oil extractors with multiple outputs.

[MAX-K-29]

DrNewcenstein の投稿を引用：

MAX-K-29 の投稿を引用：

I currently have 10 fuel generators, overload at 250% and I do not produce enough electricity, I would need 10 more, but I am limited by the oil I find (2 Pure and 2 normal )

You're looking at numbers in entirely the wrong way with regards to fluid. It's not the same as a physical product like what you see on a belt. Yes, the pipes have a max capacity of 300. With a Pure extractor pushing out 600, you have to split as close to the port as possible into 2 pipes, which will fill up almost instantly because they are being fed at a rate of twice their capacity. There's no bottleneck with fluids on the short 300m3 pipe coming out of the extractor and going straight into a junction feeding 2 pipes, because it's liquid, not solid. If your pipes are long enough, and they feed into enough generators to consume it as it comes in, and you have enough machines on a grid waiting for power which you can engage by connecting a single wire, your extractor will rarely cycle down, if that's your concern.

Each fuel generator at 100% consumes 15m3 of fuel. Each refinery outputs 100m3 (can't recall if that's at 250% or not).
6 fuel generators at 100% will consume 90m3, leaving 10m excess.
12 fuel generators at 100% will consume 180m3, leaving a total of 20m3 excess.
2 refineries producing 100m3 each can feed 25 fuel generators, as the 20m3 combined leftover will feed one more fuel generator.

I have this setup in one of my previous saves. It works. It doesn't starve for fuel. Then again I don't have multiple Assemblers and Manufacturers turning out identical parts, draining the power. I'm working on that for my current save because I wanted to experiment with real-world-style satellite factories being served by transportation, instead of massive mile-long ones with belts all over the place. Currently I have 18 fuel generators being fed by a single Pure at 600 and a Normal at 300, along with 8 coal generators, and it's more than enough for what I have built so far.

I may have a bug ...

But I can't have 600 m³ with 2 pipes.
the first pipe has a flow rate of 300 m³ / minute
the second pipe, this filled but afterwards has no flow, even with a lift pump.
The petroleum extractor stops for 10 or 15 seconds at regular intervals.

But I take my pain patiently, I will wait for the new update

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MAX-K-29 の投稿を引用：

I may have a bug ...

But I can't have 600 m³ with 2 pipes.
the first pipe has a flow rate of 300 m³ / minute
the second pipe, this filled but afterwards has no flow, even with a lift pump.
The petroleum extractor stops for 10 or 15 seconds at regular intervals.

But I take my pain patiently, I will wait for the new update

That is not a bug. That is the correct way that the game functions, at this moment. We players are restricted to a maximum of 300 m3/min from all oil extractors, regardless of node purity.

[sansee]

MAX-K-29 の投稿を引用：

I may have a bug ...

But I can't have 600 m³ with 2 pipes.
the first pipe has a flow rate of 300 m³ / minute
the second pipe, this filled but afterwards has no flow, even with a lift pump.
The petroleum extractor stops for 10 or 15 seconds at regular intervals.

But I take my pain patiently, I will wait for the new update

Being patient helps as it takes time to build up (even more if you use buffers). But if it seems to loose pressure over time and it seems to never build up consider adding more pumps, and adding a vertical "valve" to stop the fluid from being pushed backwards.