How to get rid of sulfer acid

[Aftertaste]

As the topic says, how is this done ? you should be able to simply package any liquid then store it, or send it through the shop, why is sulfer not allowed to do this with ? i cannot fully automate nuclear power because it stops when the sulfer is full or empty (i tried running a filled closed loop, but it runs out as fast as they all fill, so still cant automate), am i missing something ?

[Aftertaste]

Originally posted by kmarkopl:

feed back to the production system

Did that, is what i mean by saying i operated with a closed loop, i filled up 5 giant fluid containers, then unhooked the main sulfer line, the time it takes to use so much sulfer that it no longer pumps more into production is the same time as it takes to fill up 5 giant fluid containers, so still not fully automated

[ELi]

The wiki has some info and a picture of how to do it:
https://satisfactory.gamepedia.com/Sulfuric_Acid

[AltF4]

How about using it to create black powder, and grinding the powder?

[Aftertaste]

Originally posted by AltF4:

How about using it to create black powder, and grinding the powder?

oh i looked it uses hard sulfur, and not the liquid, but for a second i thought yay

[Mister Fabulous]

If your production stops from lack of resources or outputs back up, it's not balanced. For 100% in/out balance, you can do 5 refineries making pellets with 3 refineries producing acid. All outputs are fed back in. Feed is manifold style with acid production coming in one side, "waste" output from the other side.

Otherwise, you have to play with clock speeds.

My example assumes everything is clocked at 100% and pellet consumption will not get backed up.

EDIT: Pipe only diagram -> https://imgur.com/15tEYFj
Use powered pumps to prevent backup and force flow. Needs 400 sulfur and a couple iterations to get up to speed. Input is 300 and waste in the loop-back is 100. While I haven't built this yet just because I don't feel like dealing with waste, I like to think I know pipes so in theory it should work.

[Mister Fabulous]

So I went and built this. Not really a fan of saying "Well, I think this works". Minor update. Seems running one full speed flow into an opposing flow will very slowly but surely cause a backup even when it's supposed to balance. When you have flows clashing in opposite directions, you should distribute everything a little more.

This distribution I ended up using was pretty similar to how I do my water in aluminum production. 3 solution refineries needing 300. Feeding 240 in, 60 waste fed back, the 2 120 inputs from the extractors does not all come in from one side. Though it probably could since it's not 300. Not gonna go play with that right now :)

I should probably actually make an account so I can remove invalid pictures. Here's an updated setup, pump only on waste side: https://imgur.com/Fo5ukWW

[Aftertaste]

Originally posted by Mister Fabulous:

So I went and built this. Not really a fan of saying "Well, I think this works". Minor update. Seems running one full speed flow into an opposing flow will very slowly but surely cause a backup even when it's supposed to balance. When you have flows clashing in opposite directions, you should distribute everything a little more.

This distribution I ended up using was pretty similar to how I do my water in aluminum production. 3 solution refineries needing 300. Feeding 240 in, 60 waste fed back, the 2 120 inputs from the extractors does not all come in from one side. Though it probably could since it's not 300. Not gonna go play with that right now :)

I should probably actually make an account so I can remove invalid pictures. Here's an updated setup, pump only on waste side: https://imgur.com/Fo5ukWW

Thankyou for this information, i see how you set it up, but i have one problem, i only need 1 uranium pellet refinery, i simply do not need that much power right now haha, i mostly posted this because we should have a way to package any liquid, and then send it to the shop to recycle, i am still messing around with trying to get just 1 uranium pellet and 1 uranium fuel rod factory automated, still having issues, but i will keep poking at it

[Mister Fabulous]

No problem, that can be balanced too. Have 1 sulfuric acid refinery clocked to 60% feeding 1 pellet refinery at 100%. Connect the pellet fluid output back to its input adding to the acid production. I'd add a pump to the waste return pipe anyway just for good measure to ensure the output doesn't back up.

You can have the pellets go through a smart splitter and overflow to an awesome sink just in case your rod production can't keep up. If the pellets back up, the acid production will fill completely and could cause the acid output from the pellet refinery to also back up.

Refinery production with by-products is fun! It has to be balanced otherwise everything backs up eventually and grinds to a halt unless you're under-producing at every point alone your production line.

[Player 1]

Is there a reason that the sulfuric acid can't be flushed from a fluid buffer?

[Ruges]

Think of pipes like belts. You have the pipe that is like a belt except two way. and you have a 4way that is like a splitter and merger in one. So if you have 3 pipes going into a 4way. if you have 200m3 going in one pipe, and 200m3 going in the other pipe. and 300m3 leaving the 3rd pipe. your actually going to get 150m3 from the first pipe and 150m3 from the 2nd pipe.

Or say you have 300m3 in the first pipe and 100m3 on the 2nd pipe your going to get 200m3 from the first and 100m3 from the 2nd for 300m3 going out the 3rd pipe. However this will back fill the 2nd pipe. IE if you had storage on the 2nd pipe it would back fill it from the first pipe.

So to prevent that first pipe from back filling the 2nd pipes storage you need to raise the storage up over 22m. IE have the 2nd pipe go up 6 walls high. have storage at that level. and a pump pumping pipe 2 into that storage.

So what ends up happening is pipe 1 has 300m3, pipe 2 has 100m3, and pipe 3 is consuming 300m3. Pipe 3 will take 200m3 from pipe 1 and 100m3 from pipe 2. since you think of it as belts at this point in time. Running out there to take a pic of what I am talking about.

[Mister Fabulous]

Originally posted by Player 1:

Is there a reason that the sulfuric acid can't be flushed from a fluid buffer?

You can do that, but you'll have to check on it periodically since that has to be done manually. You could have 1000 industrial buffers, given enough time they will fill and production will stop. The idea is to setup something you don't have to look at again.

As this particular case with uranium is tied to power production, you dont want it to stop because something backed up. Dealing with excess fluids is one of the reason people often run into problems with oil based power production.

[Ruges]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2171355662
in this picture you can see the output of my pellet refineries. a pump pumps up the waste acid to a storage tank. (probably dont even need this tank, or just a small one).
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2171355842
In this picture you can see the input of my pellet refineries. You can see the the pipe coming down from that tank in the previous picture. and you can see the pipe coming in from acid refineries.

Because the storage tank is so high the pipe from the acid refineries can never fill it up. And new acid from that tank will always get added to that line before the acid from the acid refinery. Meaning there will never be a back up of acid in the pellet refineries.

The acid refineries will turn on and off to keep the pipe filled to 100%. Granted this is pretty small scale. if it was a larger scale with a higher volumn. I would have had the 4 way from the tank directly on the input from the acid refineries.

If it was a larger setup with higher throughput I could have put a 4 way on the end of the large tank. 3, 4 ways on the pipe from the acid refinery. And say I had 300m3 from the acid refinery and 300m3 from the tank then. The first 4 way would take 150m3 from the acid pipe and 150m3 from tank pipe 1. On the 2nd connection it would take 150m3 (which is 50/50) from the previous 4 way and 150m3 from the 2nd pipe from the tank. On the 3rd connection would would take 150m3 from the previous 4way. (which is now 25/75). Meaning the end result would be it taking 37.5 m3 from the acid refineries and 262.5m3 from the tank.

[Aftertaste]

This took awhile to get working right, as you have to allow it time to produce alot of by product waste to see if it backs up, so this took me a few days.

My setup is a fairly simple one, but lengthy to explain, I will attempt to be short.


-- Nuke Waste Setup --

2 truck stations, one near nuke power plants, one as far north as we could go and still be able to build platforms to place the station.

Truck station near nuke power is set to load, station far north set to unload.

Nuke waste sent to loading truck station, with 1 truck ferrying the waste product to the far north.

Currently, only the truck station near nuke power plants have a packaged fuel line running to it, the plan is to do the same to the one in the far north, so the truck is never without fuel, now that sulfur is not backing up, that should be the final stage.

-- Nuke Rod Setup --

We have 1 uranium miner 3 supplying 1 Uranium Pellet factory, which then supplies 1 uranium rod factory.

The problem was the sulfur acid output, it would always back up, I added 5 large storage, then 1 small one at ground level (as we build large foundation areas above ground, so the truck can travel a flat surface), that way, to begin with, I could flush the output to allow production to continue, this of course was not ideal, and trying to fully automate it was a pain.

First I tried, in a few different ways, to run a pipe from the sulfur acid output from pellet factory into the main sulfur line, by attaching a pipe splitter to main, then attaching the output, I tried this in many ways, and the problem always was, the main line, would try to fill both the production side, and the output side, I attempted to stop this with many pumps, but it would always cause problems and stop the flow of sulfur to production.

So, to end this book, here is what I had to do to get it working.

I placed 1 giant liquid storage with a few feet of pipe coming out of it, that just ends and is attached to nothing, then placed a pipe splitter close to its end, route main to one side, waste to other both with a pump on each to keep it from backing up into the waste side, then both lines fill the large storage, and the production line is now fed from that.

For the last 32 hours, my production has not stopped, and my 5 output fuel storages are empty, so it is working, although I have not had time to test it yet, it seems as if, I overclock both productions, I should be able to feed 3 nuke power plants without interruption, which would be 7,500 power from nuke alone, pretty sure, at this stage of EA, we wont need more.

Sorry for the book.

[DrNewcenstein]

Sulfur is the solid that you combine with coal to make black powder.

Sulfuric Acid is what you use for uranium refinement, made from Sulfur. The two are not interchangeable.

[Aftertaste]

Originally posted by DrNewcenstein:

Sulfur is the solid that you combine with coal to make black powder.

Sulfuric Acid is what you use for uranium refinement, made from Sulfur. The two are not interchangeable.

Although you are correct, you should be able to intuit that i mean the acid, as i mention it as the output from the uranium pellet factory many times ..