Hard drives

[ste]

If you make the wrong choice is there anything you can do about it?

[Mister Fabulous]

Well, kind of. The blueprints you get to pick from is determined at the start of the scan. So you could reload a save from before that and wait another 10 minutes.

There's always a save editor.

There are also more than enough drives around the map to get all alternate recipes, but that is a lot of walking.

[DaBa]

Get another Hard Drive. There are enough out there to unlock absolutely everything and you will still have a bunch of spares.

[cswiger]

Sure-- find another hard drive and research more.

All of the recipes have some use, but you should pick the ones which help you build the stuff you now have, rather than recipes for tech you haven't unlocked yet.

[ste]

Some seem worse than the original, I should of took the screws because that seems much better.
At the time though I didnt know what was useful and what wasnt

So, if you save and reload you can keep rolling until you get what you want.

[Zara]

Publicado originalmente por cswiger:

Sure-- find another hard drive and research more.

All of the recipes have some use, but you should pick the ones which help you build the stuff you now have, rather than recipes for tech you haven't unlocked yet.

Actually, at least according to the wiki and, I haven't seen otherwise, aside from one notable set of exceptions (the Pure iron/copper/etc recipes), you can't actually get any recipes for techs you don't have. So if you can't make Motors yet, you can't get the Alternate Motor recipe.

[cswiger]

If you check the Satisfactory wiki, it's got the details on the alternate recipes. Almost all of them result in faster production at a lower power cost.

The only exception which comes to mind offhand is the Iron Wire recipe, which is less efficient that using Copper to make Wires. But even this could be handy in rare cases where you've got a lot of Iron nodes handy and no Copper nodes nearby....

Casted Screws, Stitched Plates, and Industrial Beams from Steel Pipes rather than Steel Beams are probably the most useful ones, followed by Bolted Modular Frames and then the various Fuel and Plastic/Rubber ones.

[cswiger]

Publicado originalmente por Zara:

Actually, at least according to the wiki and, I haven't seen otherwise, aside from one notable set of exceptions (the Pure iron/copper/etc recipes), you can't actually get any recipes for techs you don't have. So if you can't make Motors yet, you can't get the Alternate Motor recipe.

Yes, the choices generally reflect the tech you've unlocked.

But if you keep finding and researching hard drives faster than you tech up, the choices will include recipes for stuff you haven't unlocked yet.

[Gorby]

Publicado originalmente por cswiger:

Casted Screws, Stitched Plates, and Industrial Beams from Steel Pipes rather than Steel Beams are probably the most useful ones, followed by Bolted Modular Frames and then the various Fuel and Plastic/Rubber ones.

I'm a big fan of the Coke Steel Ingot recipe too; 100 steel/minute vs. 45/min on the base recipe.

[DrNewcenstein]

I look at functionality over production rate/cost. "Do I need this now or will I need it soon?" - if the answer to either is "No", I reload the save and scan it again. As things get further along, after finding about 50 or 60 hard drives, you'll end up with more of the "useless' and "wasteful" recipes to pick from i.e. Steamed Copper Sheet, "Pure" anything, Cheap Silica, Wet/Fine Concrete, Charcoal, etc. Really takes the fun out of hunting the rest of them down at that point, because you know you're only getting crap to choose from, basically negating the effort it took to find them.

I do wish they'd change it so all possible recipes are displayed in a scrolling list (whether you've unlocked the related tech or not, maybe grey out the ones you don't have), but you can still only pick one per drive. At least you could look ahead and see which ones will be most useful to you in the immediate future. When you see nothing in the list but useless recipes, you can stop actively hunting for them.

[cswiger]

Don't you have to redo the 10 minute research timer to save-scum for different recipes?

Why not just keep playing and find another hard drive in the meantime. There are only so many recipes available, and at some point they start giving you other awards like inflating your inventory capacity.

[Evilsod]

Publicado originalmente por DrNewcenstein:

I look at functionality over production rate/cost. "Do I need this now or will I need it soon?" - if the answer to either is "No", I reload the save and scan it again. As things get further along, after finding about 50 or 60 hard drives, you'll end up with more of the "useless' and "wasteful" recipes to pick from i.e. Steamed Copper Sheet, "Pure" anything, Cheap Silica, Wet/Fine Concrete, Charcoal, etc. Really takes the fun out of hunting the rest of them down at that point, because you know you're only getting crap to choose from, basically negating the effort it took to find them.

I do wish they'd change it so all possible recipes are displayed in a scrolling list (whether you've unlocked the related tech or not, maybe grey out the ones you don't have), but you can still only pick one per drive. At least you could look ahead and see which ones will be most useful to you in the immediate future. When you see nothing in the list but useless recipes, you can stop actively hunting for them.

I can't see that happening, but it is very disappointing when your unlock is a choice of three extremely weak alternatives, even early on.