Do Epic store owners have to buy the game again for steam?

[Devil in me.]

Prefer my games on steam, but i already own it in Epic store..

[Mr.Person]

Why do people keep asking questions like this? The answer is always yes.

[Caz]

Originally posted by Mr.Person:

Why do people keep asking questions like this? The answer is always yes.

Because there have been games that gave a Steam key even though they didn't originally launch on Steam. It's a fair question.

To be more accurate about the likelihood of getting a Steam key if own it on Epic, assume we will not. It's highly unlikely we will. In the Q&A Jace doesn't say definitively that we won't, just that it's extremely unlikely.

[smiley_face]

Originally posted by Caz:

Originally posted by Mr.Person:

Why do people keep asking questions like this? The answer is always yes.

Because there have been games that gave a Steam key even though they didn't originally launch on Steam. It's a fair question.

To be more accurate about the likelihood of getting a Steam key if own it on Epic, assume we will not. It's highly unlikely we will. In the Q&A Jace doesn't say definitively that we won't, just that it's extremely unlikely.

Because those devs appreciate their fans...coffee loves money over everything else, enjoy double dipping EGS-ers

[Caz]

Originally posted by smiley_face:

Originally posted by Caz:

Because there have been games that gave a Steam key even though they didn't originally launch on Steam. It's a fair question.

To be more accurate about the likelihood of getting a Steam key if own it on Epic, assume we will not. It's highly unlikely we will. In the Q&A Jace doesn't say definitively that we won't, just that it's extremely unlikely.

Because those devs appreciate their fans...coffee loves money over everything else, enjoy double dipping EGS-ers

From what I've seen, CSS loves their fans, too. They made a bad call with the EGS thing. For most companies, I wouldn't give them a second chance. But if CSS does this again, I won't buy their products anymore. I doubt they will, though. In fact, I doubt this whole exclusivity nonsense will continue. Devs/pubs seem to have largely gotten the message that PC gamers aren't going to put up with this sh!t.

[Ardenian]

Originally posted by Caz:

Originally posted by Mr.Person:

Why do people keep asking questions like this? The answer is always yes.

Because there have been games that gave a Steam key even though they didn't originally launch on Steam. It's a fair question.

To be more accurate about the likelihood of getting a Steam key if own it on Epic, assume we will not. It's highly unlikely we will. In the Q&A Jace doesn't say definitively that we won't, just that it's extremely unlikely.

If you look on actual examples of games that provided customers with an additional Steam key, it was usually either marketing strategy (e.g. EA games providing Origin keys for Steam purchases or something like that) or because the original product is supposed to include a Steam key.

This concerns, in particular, people backing a product on platforms like Kickstarter, with the promise of receiving a Steam key at launch. However, if the developer and/or publisher decided to release the game on a different store first, for instance the EGS, there is the (legal) problem of people having backed the product with the promise of receiving a Steam key and thus, eventually, when the product comes to Steam, they receive a Steam key.

I do not know of any case in which people received a Steam key after the product was released in and bought by people from a different store instead of Steam, with the product eventually coming to Steam and them receiving an additional Steam key without requiring a new purchase here on Steam.

[Sklyer]

It would be too expensive to duplicate every key that has been made and I am sure neither Valve or Epic would be willing to play ball on that front. If you want the game on steam you will have to rebuy the game.

The reason they say they don't know is purely for PR reasons. If they said 'No' people would be angry. Saying they don't know implies they will or are trying even if they intend to do nothing about it, it softens the blow.

[Magma Hunter]

To answer OP's question: You're more likely to win the lottery than to receive a Steam key for owning the Bloatware store copy (A.K.A. Epic)

Valve gains nothing from providing these keys for free.
The Bloatware store loses potential victims.
Coffee Stain lose out on double dip sales from those dumb enough to support the Bloatware store's exclusivity deals.

Wanted this on Steam? Should have been patient enough to wait out the stupid deal

[Weaver]

Originally posted by Box-of-Demons:

Prefer my games on steam, but i already own it in Epic store..

Why would you expect an extra copy of a game from a different store who gets nothing out of it? If you bought a product that first came out at Target would you expect another copy of it for free when it showed up at Walmart? Would you expect Walmart to honor the products warranty? Clearly not. Also, you kids have fun dying on your hill ranting about the Epic Store, its not going anywhere, the rest of the world has moved on.

[Sarcast]

@Narax that's just utter nonsense which you made up yourself.
@Magma.. well yes and no. The only way you can let your voice as a gamer be heard to gaming companies is with your wallet usually.

Satisfactory is a great game, and happy I bought it on Epic (even though it's the only reason why I have Epic, I'd never buy any other game there).
I will never buy the game a 2nd time, just to be able to play on a different platform.
Actions like this will refrain me from buying a game again from a company.

Loyality goes both ways you know :)

[Atomizer]

Originally posted by Sarcast:

@Narax that's just utter nonsense which you made up yourself.
@Magma.. well yes and no. The only way you can let your voice as a gamer be heard to gaming companies is with your wallet usually.

Satisfactory is a great game, and happy I bought it on Epic (even though it's the only reason why I have Epic, I'd never buy any other game there).
I will never buy the game a 2nd time, just to be able to play on a different platform.
Actions like this will refrain me from buying a game again from a company.

Loyality goes both ways you know :)

That isn't how buying things work.
You bought it on Epic, thus your license is bound to Epic now.
Unless they specifically stated that all purchases on Epic would give a steam key, it will likely never happen.
That is the entire point of the timed exclusive deal, and one of the reasons I have not touched Epic since, you buy a product there, you are now locked in to their platform, even if you used GOG Galaxy(or steam) to launch the game, it is still locked to Epic.
And by pulling people to their store for 1 game, it increases their user figures, and will increase the chance of people buying other games from Epic, since you already have the launcher/account.
Same reason for the free games, to get people to sign up.

And as Rockstar has been familiar with for years, if you release a game on progressively better platforms, you tend to get repeat buys.(double dipping)
So many of these exclusivity deals is not only up front funding from Epic, but people going to Epic because of a game, but then once the exclusivity time is up, the same people buy it again.

[Sklyer]

I think Box-of-Demons had his question answered. Bickering about anti-consumerism in a steam forum isn't solving anything. Move on.

[Obiwan]

Originally posted by Ardenian:

Originally posted by Caz:

Because there have been games that gave a Steam key even though they didn't originally launch on Steam. It's a fair question.

To be more accurate about the likelihood of getting a Steam key if own it on Epic, assume we will not. It's highly unlikely we will. In the Q&A Jace doesn't say definitively that we won't, just that it's extremely unlikely.

If you look on actual examples of games that provided customers with an additional Steam key, it was usually either marketing strategy (e.g. EA games providing Origin keys for Steam purchases or something like that) or because the original product is supposed to include a Steam key.

This concerns, in particular, people backing a product on platforms like Kickstarter, with the promise of receiving a Steam key at launch. However, if the developer and/or publisher decided to release the game on a different store first, for instance the EGS, there is the (legal) problem of people having backed the product with the promise of receiving a Steam key and thus, eventually, when the product comes to Steam, they receive a Steam key.

I do not know of any case in which people received a Steam key after the product was released in and bought by people from a different store instead of Steam, with the product eventually coming to Steam and them receiving an additional Steam key without requiring a new purchase here on Steam.

Elite Dangerous was neither of the 2 cases you mentioned.

The fact is that since CSS has now pretty much admitted steam/epic accounts could well be seperated aswell as communities - that changes things dramatically as EVERYONE who bought on EGS was lead to believe that would NOT be the case.

[Ardenian]

Originally posted by Obiwan:

Originally posted by Ardenian:

If you look on actual examples of games that provided customers with an additional Steam key, it was usually either marketing strategy (e.g. EA games providing Origin keys for Steam purchases or something like that) or because the original product is supposed to include a Steam key.

This concerns, in particular, people backing a product on platforms like Kickstarter, with the promise of receiving a Steam key at launch. However, if the developer and/or publisher decided to release the game on a different store first, for instance the EGS, there is the (legal) problem of people having backed the product with the promise of receiving a Steam key and thus, eventually, when the product comes to Steam, they receive a Steam key.

I do not know of any case in which people received a Steam key after the product was released in and bought by people from a different store instead of Steam, with the product eventually coming to Steam and them receiving an additional Steam key without requiring a new purchase here on Steam.

Elite Dangerous was neither of the 2 cases you mentioned.

The fact is that since CSS has now pretty much admitted steam/epic accounts could well be seperated aswell as communities - that changes things dramatically as EVERYONE who bought on EGS was lead to believe that would NOT be the case.

Looks like Elite Dangerous is indeed such a case, for instance reading the article Existing Elite: Dangerous owners will be granted Steam keys. However, the true nature of this remains unknown. Existing owners receiving Steam keys is an interesting move whose details I would like to know, however, I am confident that people who buy the game from their store now instead buy a Steam key and receive access to the game through the original launcher as well, so the situation is "turned around".

As for the other part of your post. Show me one post in which CSS confirmed that this game and its content, including multiplayer, is NOT going to be separated. I am sure they made some vague comments and expressed their wishes to add cross-play and such, that however, is not deception of you as a customer because they never said it would not be separated, none was lead to believe that they would not be separated.

[Tiberia]

Originally posted by Caz:

Originally posted by Mr.Person:

Why do people keep asking questions like this? The answer is always yes.

Because there have been games that gave a Steam key even though they didn't originally launch on Steam. It's a fair question.

To be more accurate about the likelihood of getting a Steam key if own it on Epic, assume we will not. It's highly unlikely we will. In the Q&A Jace doesn't say definitively that we won't, just that it's extremely unlikely.

could you give legit examples of games where you bought it on EPIC and got an actual STEAM key?

[Dark Phoenix]

Originally posted by Ardenian:

Originally posted by Obiwan:

Elite Dangerous was neither of the 2 cases you mentioned.

The fact is that since CSS has now pretty much admitted steam/epic accounts could well be seperated aswell as communities - that changes things dramatically as EVERYONE who bought on EGS was lead to believe that would NOT be the case.

Looks like Elite Dangerous is indeed such a case, for instance reading the article Existing Elite: Dangerous owners will be granted Steam keys. However, the true nature of this remains unknown. Existing owners receiving Steam keys is an interesting move whose details I would like to know, however, I am confident that people who buy the game from their store now instead buy a Steam key and receive access to the game through the original launcher as well, so the situation is "turned around".

The issue there being that frontier were selling elite on their own store, and they still use their launcher to launch the game. They had accounts for the players, so distributing steam keys was not a problem.