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Are people who bought it on epic store gonna have a key? or no?
Knowing that satisfactory is coming to steam is really amazing, and i wonder if people who bought the game on the epic store are gonna get a free key. If so then i could invite some of my steam friends who have already wishlisted this to play some good ol' satisfactory.
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Valve are under no obligation to rescue you from you own poor decision making and lack of impulse control. You paid for and received an epic key, if you now want a Steam key you're going to have to stump up for one.
Автор останньої редакції: Dinger; 1 берез. 2020 о 1:42
It depends on the developers. For example Snapshot Games offers backers who preordered Phoenix Point before epic announcement get free Steam/GOG key in addition to Epic key once exclusivity ended. Here’s the link.
https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/clarifications-on-what-we-are-offering-to-backers-of-phoenix-point/3083
Автор останньої редакції: fryfamily1993; 2 берез. 2020 о 0:54
Цитата допису fryfamily1993:
It depends on the developers. For example Snapshot Games offers backers who preordered Phoenix Point before epic announcement get free Steam/GOG key in addition to Epic key once exclusivity ended. Here’s the link.
https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/clarifications-on-what-we-are-offering-to-backers-of-phoenix-point/3083
That's a different setup. Customers already bought a Steam key via preorders, which they cannot activate until the game actually comes on Steam. There might even be legal issues involved, concerning how early some company might sell a product which you receive as a customer only after a certain time, after a delay.

However, when people talk about receiving a Steam key after buying an Epic key, as with this game, they made the choice to buy it on Epic and therefore there is no reason why CSS should give them keys for Steam as well. They are effectively two separate products, the version on Steam and the version on Epic. Buying one product doesn't entitle you to receive the other one as well, which is exactly what people here ask for.
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Цитата допису fryfamily1993:
It depends on the developers. For example Snapshot Games offers backers who preordered Phoenix Point before epic announcement get free Steam/GOG key in addition to Epic key once exclusivity ended. Here’s the link.
https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/clarifications-on-what-we-are-offering-to-backers-of-phoenix-point/3083
That's a different setup. Customers already bought a Steam key via preorders, which they cannot activate until the game actually comes on Steam. There might even be legal issues involved, concerning how early some company might sell a product which you receive as a customer only after a certain time, after a delay.

However, when people talk about receiving a Steam key after buying an Epic key, as with this game, they made the choice to buy it on Epic and therefore there is no reason why CSS should give them keys for Steam as well. They are effectively two separate products, the version on Steam and the version on Epic. Buying one product doesn't entitle you to receive the other one as well, which is exactly what people here ask for.
Again it’s depends on the developers.
Цитата допису fryfamily1993:
Цитата допису Ardenian:
That's a different setup. Customers already bought a Steam key via preorders, which they cannot activate until the game actually comes on Steam. There might even be legal issues involved, concerning how early some company might sell a product which you receive as a customer only after a certain time, after a delay.

However, when people talk about receiving a Steam key after buying an Epic key, as with this game, they made the choice to buy it on Epic and therefore there is no reason why CSS should give them keys for Steam as well. They are effectively two separate products, the version on Steam and the version on Epic. Buying one product doesn't entitle you to receive the other one as well, which is exactly what people here ask for.
Again it’s depends on the developers.
No, it is too easy to say that. By saying this, one enables players to attack CSS for not giving them Steam keys, however, the point is that the situation is completely different than in other cases where developers and publishers gave Steam keys to people who bought the game on a different launcher.
Цитата допису l-xXx-l:
You won't get steam key for owning on epic.no company do this.

Except some do. Klei is one example. You can get a Steam key for Griftlands if you own the Epic Game Store version.
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Цитата допису l-xXx-l:
You won't get steam key for owning on epic.no company do this.

Except some do. Klei is one example. You can get a Steam key for Griftlands if you own the Epic Game Store version.

However, they do that by using a third party account that links your account to the game.
Автор останньої редакції: Dark Phoenix; 8 лип. 2020 о 8:05
Devs have mentioned it several times, including on the FAQ post here on steam:
If you want it on steam, you'll have to buy it on steam.
Цитата допису tomvanharmelen:
Devs have mentioned it several times, including on the FAQ post here on steam
You are aware that the FAQ was created on March 31st, and this thread was made on February 24th, right? But you were probably too busy climbing and falling off your high-horse to notice.
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Цитата допису tomvanharmelen:
Devs have mentioned it several times, including on the FAQ post here on steam
You are aware that the FAQ was created on March 31st, and this thread was made on February 24th, right? But you were probably too busy climbing and falling off your high-horse to notice.
No, it is why I used the words 'several times' and 'including here on steam'
To indicate that this information is available in multiple places.

The discord
Their twitch streams
Their youtube videos
Their twitter probably too
Havent checked the subreddit but wouldbt surprise me if it was available there too.

Want to borrow that invisible high-horse you think I am on to hurry towards the places that have the information?
You can't buy something from Walmart and expect Amazon to support your purchase... Just try taking your Ferrari to a Ford dealership for service.

You buy it on one store you don't get access to it also from another store. Every key has to be paid for and there's no transferring cause that would mean Epic would have to pay for a Steam key for you for the transfer. How stupid is that?...
Цитата допису Patch:
If they were to give away keys to Epic owners, they would have to buy those keys from steam first. I can't see CSS wasting thousands on free keys just to keep players "happy".

Цитата допису Lil Puppy:
You buy it on one store you don't get access to it also from another store. Every key has to be paid for and there's no transferring cause that would mean Epic would have to pay for a Steam key for you for the transfer. How stupid is that?...

I'm sorry, But are you guys high? You do know that steam allows devs to make unlimited keys for their games to do with as they please, right?

It is literally a case of generating a bucket of keys from the dev account, and setting up a system to verify you have it on epic to then give you one of the keys from the bucket.
Автор останньої редакції: Ad-Man-Gamer; 4 верес. 2020 о 7:25
Цитата допису Ad-Man-Gamer:
Цитата допису Patch:
If they were to give away keys to Epic owners, they would have to buy those keys from steam first. I can't see CSS wasting thousands on free keys just to keep players "happy".
I'm sorry, But are you high? You do know that steam allows devs to make unlimited keys to do with as they please, right?

Either you have totally misunderstood what you're responding to, or they aren't as high as you are...
Цитата допису Evilsod:
Цитата допису Ad-Man-Gamer:
I'm sorry, But are you high? You do know that steam allows devs to make unlimited keys to do with as they please, right?

Either you have totally misunderstood what you're responding to, or they aren't as high as you are...

You have totally misunderstood what you're responding to. As quoted.

Цитата допису Patch:
... they would have to buy those keys from steam first. I can't see CSS wasting thousands on free keys just to keep players "happy".

Цитата допису Lil Puppy:
... Every key has to be paid for and there's no transferring cause that would mean Epic would have to pay for a Steam key for you for the transfer. How stupid is that?

The point of contention is that they both think the devs have to buy the keys from steam to then give them out. However It costs the devs nothing at all.

They don't buy any keys off of steam as they are the devs, and they are free to generate steam keys for their game till the cows come home. This is how steam has always worked on the dev end.
Автор останньої редакції: Ad-Man-Gamer; 4 верес. 2020 о 7:44
Цитата допису Ad-Man-Gamer:
Цитата допису Evilsod:

Either you have totally misunderstood what you're responding to, or they aren't as high as you are...

You have totally misunderstood what you're responding to. As quoted.

"They would have to buy those keys from steam first."

"Every key has to be paid for and there's no transferring cause that would mean Epic would have to pay for a Steam key"

The point of contention is that they both think the devs have to buy the keys from steam to then give them out. However It costs the devs nothing at all.

They don't buy any keys off of steam as they are the devs, and they are free to generate steam keys for their game till the cows come home. This is how steam has always worked on the dev end.

Sounds more like ignorance on your part.

Steam is a business not a charity.
They do not give keys to the devs for free, to pass along to customers who paid their competitors, so they can use their own service at their own cost.
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