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TCJaime May 14, 2017 @ 3:12pm
Fahrenheit please!
I love this game, but I would love it even more if I could change the temps to fahrenheit. Thinking in celsius makes my brain hurt.

Pretty please?
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12 inches in a foot
3 foots in a yard
1760 yards in a mile (2025.37 yards in a nautical mile)

So if I walked 7 miles, that means I walked 12320 yards or 36960 feets, or 443520 inches.

Explain to me again how metric makes your brain hurt?
Last edited by Smugass Braixen-Chan; May 14, 2017 @ 10:53pm
Pragmatik May 14, 2017 @ 11:55pm 
Start using proper units for once lol. I'll never understand American and their obsession with using those stupid inches and fahrenheit when everybody else uses celsius and meters.
2ndForm May 15, 2017 @ 12:37am 
Originally posted by Insanity Wolf-Chan:
12 inches in a foot
3 foots in a yard
1760 yards in a mile (2025.37 yards in a nautical mile)

So if I walked 7 miles, that means I walked 12320 yards or 36960 feets, or 443520 inches.

Explain to me again how metric makes your brain hurt?
This.
Catch up with the rest of the world please America.
Your measurements are ridiculous.
TCJaime May 15, 2017 @ 5:50am 
It was a perfectly polite request...unlike your rude and belittling posts. All my other games can do it, so I don't see why this one can't.

No one said you had to use our "ridiculous" measurements, but I would like the option to use what I'm comfortable with.
Last edited by TCJaime; May 15, 2017 @ 5:54am
2ndForm May 15, 2017 @ 7:03am 
Originally posted by TCJaime:
It was a perfectly polite request...unlike your rude and belittling posts. All my other games can do it, so I don't see why this one can't.

No one said you had to use our "ridiculous" measurements, but I would like the option to use what I'm comfortable with.

Imperial or English measurement (which the US uses ironically) is pretty archaic.

This game is portraying lifeforms and evolution, in a sciencey-ish way, albeit in a very cute and fun way.
Even American scientists use metric. Becuase Imperial is ridiculous. It should have died in the 1800's, but still persists due to stubborness and blind ignorance.

We dont have to use it? YES WE DO. We're forced to continuously as US standards are fausted on us at every turn. It's an issue, it's confusion for the sake of it. It's exactly the same issue as the US demanding they just HAVE to have their own version of English. Exactly the same as the default currency on most sites being USD (INCLUDING THIS ONE), forcing the rest of the world to convert. Exactly the same as every single map of the world having america like three times the actual size it is, because... reasons?

But here I'll help:

Below 0 C = freezing (omgosh! It like totally makes sense! Starting from freezing point? Like how numbers do? GENIUS!)
0 - 20 C = pretty chilly.
20 - 30 C = were warming up.
30 - 40 C = hot. Add some humidity and you got average tropical.
40 - 50 C = Humans start passing out.
50 - 60 C = Average global temperature in 2020.

100 C = Waters boiling.
-273.15 = Atoms stop moving.
Dragon Fist Ent May 15, 2017 @ 7:12am 
I would preffer to have an Fahrenheit as well, though would be interesting how it might affect the game play since it will probably change temp much more frequintly than the Celsius numbers do which is why i preffer Fahrenheit its just a bit more accurate tempeture wise without having to go into the .4 or whatever.
Just having a meter that tells you the temperature in °F isn't as easy as you think it is.

The problem is that the game relies heavily on temperature, and exact increments between temperatures. Every time you here the little *ding* when you're altering the terrain, the temperature increases or decreases by 1 degree Celsius, and this can potentially have a dramatic effect on your ecosystem (Global Warming seems slightly scarier now, doesn't it?)

The distance between 32°F and 33°F is a lot smaller than the distance between 0°C and 1°C, and they don't fit into one another neatly, which means you would basically have to completely alter the way the game works, or otherwise have an inaccurate Fahrenheit counter (Which would just make things even more confusing when every ding means a change of 3.6°F instead of 1°C)

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The point of my previous statement is that if you can understand Imperial, you can understand Metric. Metric is DESIGNED to be easy to understand.

Celsius works like this;

Water freezes at 0°C (32°F) and boils at 100°C (212°F)

Most life on earth is supported within the range of 4°C (39.2°F) and 60°C (140°F). Anything hotter than this will generally die of heat exhaustion and anything colder will generally not fair much better, not without being adapted to extreme temperatures.

0°C is when ♥♥♥♥ starts freezing over, and basically nothing but the most specialized bacteria can survive temperatures of over 100°C.

For us humans, anything over 30°C would be considered a very hot day. 20-30°C is sort of comfortable temperature. 10-20°C is cold but bearable, and you do not want to be outside without a jacket at below 10°C
TCJaime May 15, 2017 @ 8:07am 
If implementing Fahrenheit would be too difficult based the game design, that's understandable. But don't belittle me for not using metric just because you don't like Imperial.
lPaladinl May 15, 2017 @ 8:47am 
Originally posted by 2ndForm:
Originally posted by TCJaime:
It was a perfectly polite request...unlike your rude and belittling posts. All my other games can do it, so I don't see why this one can't.

No one said you had to use our "ridiculous" measurements, but I would like the option to use what I'm comfortable with.

Imperial or English measurement (which the US uses ironically) is pretty archaic.

This game is portraying lifeforms and evolution, in a sciencey-ish way, albeit in a very cute and fun way.
Even American scientists use metric. Becuase Imperial is ridiculous. It should have died in the 1800's, but still persists due to stubborness and blind ignorance.

We dont have to use it? YES WE DO. We're forced to continuously as US standards are fausted on us at every turn. It's an issue, it's confusion for the sake of it. It's exactly the same issue as the US demanding they just HAVE to have their own version of English. Exactly the same as the default currency on most sites being USD (INCLUDING THIS ONE), forcing the rest of the world to convert. Exactly the same as every single map of the world having america like three times the actual size it is, because... reasons?

We don't demand that we have our own version of English. We actually HAVE a different brand of English than Britain, or anywhere else, does. There's a lot of words that your average American does not recognize in British English. We can make the same complaint against Britain for "having to be different" from us, too. You can thank regional differences for that, that's not some active thing Americans do just to annoy the world.

And the reasons USD is the default:

1.) Most likely you're dealing with a U.S. established company that operates out of the U.S. This would be like me complaining about Autralian companies defaulting to AUD when I shop at them.

2.) USD is one of the more widely accepted currencies in the world that is easier to obtain in more regions of the world.

I can agree that it is dumb that we use the Imperial system. There's not much wrong with it, but the metric system is more widely accepted. Now you know how Americans feel, because we actually use both interchangebly for different things. It's not exactly an easy thing to convert an entire country's population away from using one system to use another, though.
Kakujo May 15, 2017 @ 9:27am 
I agree that the Imperial system is pretty dumb compared to the Metric system, but I think it's a fair request for people who grew up with it, like myself. No need to be condescending.
RTiger32 May 15, 2017 @ 10:59pm 
I wouldn't mind seeing the option to show things in metric, Imperial, or Kelvin. Given this tracks temperature to the tenth degree, getting even a basic aproximation shouldn't be too difficult.

Here is a quick reference however:

00 C = 032 F
05 C = 041 F
10 C = 050 F
15 C = 059 F
20 C = 068 F
25 C = 077 F
30 C = 086 F
35 C = 095 F
40 C = 104 F
45 C = 113 F
50 C = 122 F
55 C = 131 F
60 C = 140 F

That the game portreys humans birth Temperature at 12C - 18C (54F - 64F) seems a bit amusing given many of us prefer the temperature at 18C - 24C (64F - 75F)
Last edited by RTiger32; May 15, 2017 @ 11:06pm
I wasn't being condescending in any way.

I just think it's a little silly to say that metric is hard to understand when Imperial is the hard one to learn.
UsF May 16, 2017 @ 5:31am 
No harm in having options, especially for user feedback.
2ndForm May 16, 2017 @ 6:21am 
Originally posted by Captain Buzzkill lPaladinl:
Originally posted by 2ndForm:

Imperial or English measurement (which the US uses ironically) is pretty archaic.

This game is portraying lifeforms and evolution, in a sciencey-ish way, albeit in a very cute and fun way.
Even American scientists use metric. Becuase Imperial is ridiculous. It should have died in the 1800's, but still persists due to stubborness and blind ignorance.

We dont have to use it? YES WE DO. We're forced to continuously as US standards are fausted on us at every turn. It's an issue, it's confusion for the sake of it. It's exactly the same issue as the US demanding they just HAVE to have their own version of English. Exactly the same as the default currency on most sites being USD (INCLUDING THIS ONE), forcing the rest of the world to convert. Exactly the same as every single map of the world having america like three times the actual size it is, because... reasons?

We don't demand that we have our own version of English. We actually HAVE a different brand of English than Britain, or anywhere else, does. There's a lot of words that your average American does not recognize in British English. We can make the same complaint against Britain for "having to be different" from us, too. You can thank regional differences for that, that's not some active thing Americans do just to annoy the world.

And the reasons USD is the default:

1.) Most likely you're dealing with a U.S. established company that operates out of the U.S. This would be like me complaining about Autralian companies defaulting to AUD when I shop at them.

2.) USD is one of the more widely accepted currencies in the world that is easier to obtain in more regions of the world.

I can agree that it is dumb that we use the Imperial system. There's not much wrong with it, but the metric system is more widely accepted. Now you know how Americans feel, because we actually use both interchangebly for different things. It's not exactly an easy thing to convert an entire country's population away from using one system to use another, though.
Firstly, your English is formed from British English, secondly, its not just regional you guys have (and just recently I might add on some accounts) decided to just start spelling things completely differently. In some cases, so that its easier to teach.

On your second point, yes this is a US established company (lets use Steam as the example). One that is operating and making a lot of coin in my country, and not paying much in the way of tax. Should McDonalds here in Australia also use USD too by this logic?

Widely accepted? You mean one of the easiest to counterfeit right? If not, I think you will find that you can convert any currency, to any other currency pretty much anywhere in the world. Not to mention, you MAY be able to force some USD on someone in a country that doesnt use it, but I seriously would not advise gadding about the world expecting to pay in USD everywhere... it wont fly. See above ease of conversion as a reason why. It would be like getting around with chunks of gold and saying 'ITS A STANDARD' when trying to pay for that cab ride.

Im glad you see how silly it is, because seriously, it should have been changed long ago. All your liquids and other stuff is yes, metric. But heres my main point:

Everything I said up there? Its all true... but when I buy off Steam, I just google the conversion. When I use Facebook or any social media and it tells me my spelling is wrong, I ignore it. When I use Word or many other applications, I go into the settings and change the default from US English, even though I bought it from Australia.
The fact is, that we dont ask to be catered to.
Even when its downright frustrating.

This happens on a DAILY basis for the rest of the world. We make do, and suffer the mild inconvenience. So maybe instead of asking the developer to cater to your request, we could have them concentrate on actual stuff that needs fixing, or more content, or whatever...
And you could just look at a VERY simple to read chart.

http://lrrpublic.cli.det.nsw.edu.au/lrrSecure/Sites/Web/activedata/lo/04_conversion_graph/other/popup_conversion_graph.htm

This one was put together by one of Australias education departments! Because we would rather be inclusive, understanding, and accept cultural changes when they come about rather than whine incessantly until we get absolutely everything our way. Its REALLY not that hard to understand... yeesh.

Edit: Here is an even bigger, bolder one for you:

https://mathsclass.net/images/uploads/img_conversion-graph_celsius-farenheit.png

Let me know if its too boring or what not, and perhaps I can add some m16s, hamburgers, the odd eagle and some jets of flame... anything you need to make it more palatable and hold your attention for long enough that it makes sense.
Last edited by 2ndForm; May 16, 2017 @ 6:24am
tl;dr on the posts about American-English and Currency.
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