(Spoilers) Story question/discussion

[Jhemp12]

How did 2B get infected and 9S didn't? When 9S is going through the server at the Bunker he notices a weird noise so he doesn't upload his data to the server and he stops 2B's data from being uploaded too. After the Bunker is attacked, the commander asks them why they aren't infected and 9S tells her it's because he stopped their data from being uploaded to the server because he noticed something was wrong. It almost seems like the game completely forgets about this just a few minutes later because 2B becomes infected with the virus.

It doesn't make sense that they would completely contradict their story like that, especially in such a short time frame so I was wondering, how did 2B get infected? Is it because I saved the game, while the server was compromised? Has anyone tried doing a no save playthrough? The way saving is used as a story mechanic in this game, it would make sense that there would be a hidden ending in which 2B doesn't become infected and lives, if you don't save the game while the server is compromised, which would be from the time 2B sends 9S up to the bunker, up until they reunite.

[myhr2]

Keep playing, you'll see what happens. Come back onec you've reach ending E, and I'll gladly talk about the story with you. =)

[TheSeek]

Have you played the whole game?
Cause in the reports it is explained that the Logic Virus is nothing more than a control measure to prevent YoRHa android from learning the truth about humanity, and acts by slowly infecting androids, which means all YoRHa units are infected(including 2B and 9S) and what you see is just the final sage where the virus takes over. Various hints of this can be spotted around, mainly in 9S route where you can briefly see N2 as soon as the second encounter with Adam and Eve in the alien ship. Assuming 9S stopping the upload did something, it merely slowed down the infection, or prevented the final attack of it to be as destructive as it was for the other androids.

[KenzyBlane]

Originally posted by TheSeek:

Have you played the whole game?
Cause in the reports it is explained that the Logic Virus is nothing more than a control measure to prevent YoRHa android from learning the truth about humanity, and acts by slowly infecting androids, which means all YoRHa units are infected(including 2B and 9S) and what you see is just the final sage where the virus takes over. Various hints of this can be spotted around, mainly in 9S route where you can briefly see N2 as soon as the second encounter with Adam and Eve in the alien ship. Assuming 9S stopping the upload did something, it merely slowed down the infection, or prevented the final attack of it to be as destructive as it was for the other androids.

Where in the world did you get that information from? Because it's false for these reasons:

- the logic virus has already existed way before YoRHa, as told in Anemone's records when one of her comrades get infected.
- this point invalidates the purpose of the virus which you've brought up (to prevent YoRHa from learning the truth about humanity). What do you think E models are for?
- N2 has had access to the Bunker for a while now and could've wiped out YoRHa or any remaining androids in existence at any time. How else did N2 get SS level information to show to 9S?

When the squad in route C got infected, 9S most likely only halted the virus in 2B, uploaded his clean and 2B's infected data through backdoor, both selfdestructed and got new bodies in the Bunker, which then blew up. After that 2B saved 9S by sending him away and taking on the infected YoRHas in flight units and got EMPd and infected even further. Notice how the EMP blasts are the same as Simone's hacking attacks, which she most likely used to take over other androids, which, when summoned by her, have red infected eyes and use the exact same hacking attacks.

[strangerblues]

And 2B can resist the hacking attack of Simone, by using hacking abilitties, and in the end the pod give A2 hacking abilities !!!???

[TheSeek]

Originally posted by KenzyBlane:

- the logic virus has already existed way before YoRHa, as told in Anemone's records when one of her comrades get infected.

I never said the virus was created with that purpose, I said it's used as a control measure to wipe out all of YoRHa, which is exactly what happens. So it already existing doesn't make its use invalid.

Originally posted by KenzyBlane:

- this point invalidates the purpose of the virus which you've brought up (to prevent YoRHa from learning the truth about humanity). What do you think E models are for?

The official E units job is to kill other YoRHa units that have been damaged in battle and can't be recovered to avoid any info ending up inm the machine's hands(source, yoko taro himself), which is why they're included in each descend squadron.
I know what the actual purpose of E units is, but it's a more generic purpose as they're used to kill any other unit that becomes a threat, be it cause it falls victim of the logic virus, betrayal, berserk, or any reason, including discovering the real purpose of YoRHa(2B/E case), but it's not their only reason to kill other units, it's just one of many, so no, E units aren't made specificaly for that.
small addition, most people think E models existence is kept secret due to their purpose being killing other units who discover the real purpose of YoRHa, but that's false since unit 7E is present in the very first chapter as part of 2B's squadron, so other units know of their existence and official purpose, it's just 9S that, being a scout and thus usually working alone, is not aware of it(again, taro himself is the source of this)

Originally posted by KenzyBlane:

- N2 has had access to the Bunker for a while now and could've wiped out YoRHa or any remaining androids in existence at any time. How else did N2 get SS level information to show to 9S?

I didn't mean her presence starts there, but that 9S starts becoming aware of her presence at that point, which is a sign of the virus taking action(another sign is him being somehow connected to the machine network).

[Cacosubthree]

If you are open to side contents that are officially declared canon, you can refer to the short story "Memory Cage"

It is confirmed there that 2B always keeps a dormat version of the logic virus for good measure. So she always had it. It just activated beyond her control.

[DuctTapedGoat]

i thought they were two different infections - there was the hack on the bunker (the noise), but 2B was infected along with all the B model (E model?)... Omega Team troops directly, when this happened, 9S was at the top of the building/landing site outside of factory.

the final game lore suggests that this was not an outside attack, but a self destruct mechanism of Yorha, to force the persuasion that humanity still exists on the moon.