Playing as 9S isn't fun.

[MTV]

So I just finished ending A and wasn't impressed with the storyline in this game. However, I keep hearing people say to do more endings before judging, so I'm going for ending B now. I already hate playing as 9S because of the hacking mini-game. I keep screwing up the hacks on the first boss. I assume the hacking is only going to get more hard as I play?

I'm honestly considering quitting the game because I really am not enjoying hacking. Any tips or should I just quit the game?

[MTV]

I was able to get past the first boss eventually. I still don't like the hacking mini-game.. I guess I will just keep playing and push through. Hopefully these other endings are worth it.

[Spooky]

Something to bear mind, is that the true climax of the story is Route C. Route A is perhaps lacking (although still excellently written) in terms of story content. In the context of Route B and C though, it is integral to the story and its themes.

However, I do have my share of misgivings towards how it was handled and wish Route B was smarter about it's pacing: To force the player to tread through tired content, is detrimental to its enjoyment. It's all in the service of art, which I can appreciate, yet Route B is quite bare on new content; even if it's truncated by upgrades, items and etc., it's a lot of 'been there done that' which is too much to ask from the average player.

Regardless, I love the game tremendously.

[myhr2]

Don't feel obligated to use hacking as 9S, yes, he cannot combine two weapons, but he has his own movesets. I recommand using spears, he can charge his attack to throw them, giving him some kind of mid-range combat style.

[MTV]

Originally posted by myhr2:

Don't feel obligated to use hacking as 9S, yes, he cannot combine two weapons, but he has his own movesets. I recommand using spears, he can charge his attack to throw them, giving him some kind of mid-range combat style.

Thank you. I already liked using spears with 2B, So I'm definitely using a spear with 9S. I can handle the hacking when it's just one ball that shoots bullets, But when it's shielded and has a ton of defenders spamming you with tons of projectiles it's stressful because you have to hurry to complete the hack..

[MTV]

Originally posted by Cawfee:

Something to bear mind, is that the true climax of the story is Route C. Route A is perhaps lacking (although still excellently written) in terms of story content. In the context of Route B and C though, it is integral to the story and its themes.

However, I do have my share of misgivings towards how it was handled and wish Route B was smarter about it's pacing: To force the player to tread through tired content, is detrimental to its enjoyment. It's all in the service of art, which I can appreciate, yet Route B is quite bare on new content; even if it's truncated by upgrades, items and etc., it's a lot of 'been there done that' which is too much to ask from the average player.

Regardless, I love the game tremendously.

I heard Ending E was the real ending. I will keep this in mind thanks.

[old.school]

Yah i didnt like playing as 9S either...

Not so much his moves or abilities but for me it was more to do with his personality and appearance. I'm not really into the whole fetish thing with shotas, traps, feminine looking guys with white hair. I didnt like it in Metal Gear Solid 2 (my first MG game) and i didnt like it in Nier. Getting to play a character like Snake only to have him replaced by Raiden or in Niers case playing as 2B and having to play 9S.

[MTV]

Originally posted by old.school:

Yah i didnt like playing as 9S either...

Not so much his moves or abilities but for me it was more to do with his personality and appearance. I'm not really into the whole fetish thing with shotas, traps, feminine looking guys with white hair. I didnt like it in Metal Gear Solid 2 (my first MG game) and i didnt like it in Nier. Getting to play a character like Snake only to have him replaced by Raiden or in Niers case playing as 2B and having to play 9S.

I can't blame you for that. I think Adam and Eve are laughably bad villains for that reason. Not just their looks but they are so one dimensional. I'm a bad guy that wants to kill everything just because I'm bad! Funny enough, I liked Kuja in FF9 despite his girlish looks but he was more fleshed out at least.

[[reaVerNL@Rumble]ᚱᛖᚨᚠᛖᚱ]

if you're using mouse and keyboard use the NAIOM mod that's found on this forum. That will make the hacking games much more playable. Most enemies have fairly simple hacking games, the major bosses can have games unique to them. If you go for route D and hack A2 without attacking her you will see something quite astounding.

And while the games are hard at first, you will eventually get used to them and then it will be much easier. Just carry enough recovery with you in case of failures.

[zetto156]

You will get better at the hacking minigame, make sure you do because it's important. You really should be using a controller if you're not, but if you're not, check out that NAIOM mod.

This game is an onion. The A ending is supposed to be unsatisfying, because you're not supposed to stop there. The more you see of the game the further the onion is peeled back and the more you come to accept. Ending A I thought this game was pretty good. Ending B I decided is was truly great. Endings C & D secured it as my game of the year and Ending E convinced me it is an all-time masterpiece.

[Vectura]

I had a similar opinion before, didn't want to replay everything, but people said that I should push through it, and I did. It was totally worth it, and I really encourage you to continue. Though things do start off the same you start to get new information from 9S's perspective, and the story continues onwards.

[lessthanoff]

Originally posted by MTV:

Originally posted by old.school:

Yah i didnt like playing as 9S either...

Not so much his moves or abilities but for me it was more to do with his personality and appearance. I'm not really into the whole fetish thing with shotas, traps, feminine looking guys with white hair. I didnt like it in Metal Gear Solid 2 (my first MG game) and i didnt like it in Nier. Getting to play a character like Snake only to have him replaced by Raiden or in Niers case playing as 2B and having to play 9S.

I can't blame you for that. I think Adam and Eve are laughably bad villains for that reason. Not just their looks but they are so one dimensional. I'm a bad guy that wants to kill everything just because I'm bad! Funny enough, I liked Kuja in FF9 despite his girlish looks but he was more fleshed out at least.

I wasn't a big fan of Adam and Eve either, to be honest. Neither one of them won my interest or sympathy, not even in Route B. And they were way too over-the-top anime-esque for me. As far as the story goes, they're my only real complaint.

However, without going into specifics, there is a much, much more interesting villain that's presented later.

[Portos]

I know replaying that part of the game as 9S doesn't appeal at first glance. Keep going, anyway. You'll start to notice new things from his perspective and it's faster than the first time as 2B.

Also, be aware that you're not going to keep repeating that part of the story while you get "new endings". Don't think about it as new endings, it's more like episodes in a tv show, time will keep going and new things will happen. A and B endings feel more like a prologue to me (not because of the lenght, but the story)

Since you're asking for tips, if you're getting tired of playing this part remember that you can change to easy mode for some time if you're stuck in a specific battle. Or all the time if you want to rush it. Not a fan of the idea, I personally like it hard, but could help preventing you to miss a really great game. Don't forget to go back to normal or hars as soon as you finish route B, tho.

Also, about Adam and Eve, they felt too anime cliched for me too, but they make sense in the story as a whole and you're not going to see them anymore. This first "season" is more archetypical, as I already stated, A&B will feel like a mere prologue when you start C.

[Sikent]

At first I didn't enjoy him as well, but got into him over time and eventually enjoyed him more than 2B

[MTV]

I'm using a controller and I'm not getting any better at hacking. I'm just god awful at it. kept failing at hacking Simone constantly. At this point I'm either going to ignore it all together or have to find a trainer for hacking because it's really making me want to drop the game.

[lessthanoff]

Originally posted by MTV:

I'm using a controller and I'm not getting any better at hacking. I'm just god awful at it. kept failing at hacking Simone constantly. At this point I'm either going to ignore it all together or have to find a trainer for hacking because it's really making me want to drop the game.

I would ignore it. There aren't too many situations where it's mandatory. In many cases, all it really does is make fights longer (comparing a situation where it takes 20 seconds to hack an enemy to a situation where it takes about 4 or 5 seconds to slash it to death).