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Tommy Smith Nov 29, 2020 @ 5:27pm
Atrocious performance and low fps
Is my PC really that old and clunky?

I have i7-6700K (OC to 5.1 GHz), 1070 SLI and in 3440x1440 I get like 15 to 25 fps, with open areas dipping to single digits when rapidly moving camera around. SLI is working, I can see both GPUs utilization in 70-90% region, they also consume their TDP worth of power. Most settings are maxed, except AA, shadows and blur.

Yhat's with and without FAR, game runs from SSD and I have 64 GB of RAM.

Is it within what I should expect and I just should throw money at the problem, or something is wrong with my setup?
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Hypertext Eye Nov 29, 2020 @ 5:31pm 
It's not your hardware. I have similar, 6700K (no OC), GTX 1080 playing at 3840x2160 and I have no issues. Mess with your graphics settings a bit maybe, but don't expect anything amazing. This is a pretty poor console port after all.
Gamma Ray Nov 30, 2020 @ 8:25am 
Reformat your hard drive.

Don't install crapware.
Zombie101 Dec 1, 2020 @ 12:02am 
How about turning down the res to something reasonable. Your morons not understand that higher the res more power it need to run each frame. You running like x2.5 to x4 power

Pixel count of 1920x1080 "2,073,600 pixels"
Tommy Smith Pixel count of 3440x1440 "4,953,600 pixels"
I think japan guy Pixel count of 3840x2160 "8,294,400 pixels"
That just pixel power the gpu need process not count each pixel there more effect math. that be x4 Japan guy and 2.5 for tommy.

What your asking unreasonable of your cards. And SLI not really supported in alot games.
TheSeek Dec 1, 2020 @ 12:20am 
Originally posted by Zombie101:
How about turning down the res to something reasonable. Your morons not understand that higher the res more power it need to run each frame.[...]
What your asking unreasonable of your cards. And SLI not really supported in alot games.
Except in terms of performance his build is perfectly capable of running this game at 4K 60fps with SLI working, proof(ignore the wrong aspect ratio, the streamer was not using FAR) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgNMhm2nf3A

OP did you try the SLI fix listed here[www.pcgamingwiki.com](the FAR one, not Nvida inspector)? Cause your performance is similar to reports of running the game at 4K with just one 1070, so maybe that's the issue, regardless of how you can see both GPU utilization.
Hypertext Eye Dec 1, 2020 @ 4:53am 
Originally posted by Zombie101:
How about turning down the res to something reasonable. Your morons not understand that higher the res more power it need to run each frame. You running like x2.5 to x4 power

Pixel count of 1920x1080 "2,073,600 pixels"
Tommy Smith Pixel count of 3440x1440 "4,953,600 pixels"
I think japan guy Pixel count of 3840x2160 "8,294,400 pixels"
That just pixel power the gpu need process not count each pixel there more effect math. that be x4 Japan guy and 2.5 for tommy.

What your asking unreasonable of your cards. And SLI not really supported in alot games.
It's really not unreasonable. I play all games at 4K and most of them run at 60 fps (with vsync on).
Last edited by Hypertext Eye; Dec 1, 2020 @ 4:55am
Tommy Smith Dec 2, 2020 @ 10:55am 
Originally posted by ハイパーテクスト・アイ:
It's not your hardware. I have similar, 6700K (no OC), GTX 1080 playing at 3840x2160 and I have no issues. Mess with your graphics settings a bit maybe, but don't expect anything amazing. This is a pretty poor console port after all.

Thanks!


Originally posted by Gamma Ray:
Reformat your hard drive.

Don't install crapware.

I have lightweight (no social crap, clould apps, IMs, etc, only drivers and Steam) dedicated to gaming Windows install.



Originally posted by Zombie101:
How about turning down the res to something reasonable. Your morons not understand that higher the res more power it need to run each frame. You running like x2.5 to x4 power

[...]

And SLI not really supported in alot games.

With 3440x1440 monitor it's hard to play in lower res - barely anything is supported, custom resolutions often do not work or disable G-sync, and it looks atrocious, honestly.

Actually, I think Nier supports SLI pretty well. I've got 90%+ scaling.




Originally posted by TheSeek:
Originally posted by Zombie101:
How about turning down the res to something reasonable. Your morons not understand that higher the res more power it need to run each frame.[...]
What your asking unreasonable of your cards. And SLI not really supported in alot games.
Except in terms of performance his build is perfectly capable of running this game at 4K 60fps with SLI working, proof(ignore the wrong aspect ratio, the streamer was not using FAR) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgNMhm2nf3A

OP did you try the SLI fix listed here[www.pcgamingwiki.com](the FAR one, not Nvida inspector)? Cause your performance is similar to reports of running the game at 4K with just one 1070, so maybe that's the issue, regardless of how you can see both GPU utilization.

But... but... but my SLI is working! I've got nice scaling and both GPUs are loaded. With single card (SLI disabled) I get even worse performance. Anyway, now, I haven't tried the change you posted, I'll try it on this weekend. Thank you!

Now that I read people wit 1060 Ti are playing this game 4k@60 fps and I'm getting little mad.
Hypertext Eye Dec 2, 2020 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Tommy Smith:
With 3440x1440 monitor it's hard to play in lower res - barely anything is supported, custom resolutions often do not work or disable G-sync, and it looks atrocious, honestly.
Yes, I agree with you. I have a 4K screen and lower resolutions (even at max settings) look like ass compared to 4K (even at lowest settings) because of scaling.
Tommy Smith Dec 2, 2020 @ 2:50pm 
Originally posted by ハイパーテクスト・アイ:
Originally posted by Tommy Smith:
With 3440x1440 monitor it's hard to play in lower res - barely anything is supported, custom resolutions often do not work or disable G-sync, and it looks atrocious, honestly.
Yes, I agree with you. I have a 4K screen and lower resolutions (even at max settings) look like ass compared to 4K (even at lowest settings) because of scaling.

With 4K you have straight up 1080p option. 2x2 pixel looks sharp, at least on screens I have used so far. For 3440x1440 it's 1720x720, and... well, you can guess how bad it looks. 2580x1080 or 2560x1080 (3/4 resolution) delivers basically 1080p performance, but due to scaling looks suuuuper bad, doesn't mater if the GPU or monitor does the scaling, AND G-Sync doesn't work at all.
Hypertext Eye Dec 2, 2020 @ 4:13pm 
Originally posted by Tommy Smith:
With 4K you have straight up 1080p option. 2x2 pixel looks sharp
No, it's really not an option. Every upscaler uses an algorithm to interpolate information for the extra pixels, and it becomes a blurry mess. Nearest neighbor interpolation (what you're describing) hasn't been easily doable until recently (I don't know why, it's literally the simplest algorithm to implement). Now NVIDIA can do it (but only if you have an RTX GPU for some stupid reason), I'm not sure about AMD since I don't have one of those. I don't have an RTX GPU, but there is an app here on Steam that can do it if you play in a window. It turns your small window into a fullscreen borderless window and uses nearest neighbor interpolation. Using that app, upscaling from 1080p is sharp, but a pixel perfect 1080p image on a 40" screen still looks like ass.

You're probably looking at a tiny 27" 4K monitor. It's no wonder you can't tell the difference. 27" is much too small for 4K.
RadicalDog Dec 2, 2020 @ 5:52pm 
Antialiasing in this game is the killer for fps. If you only turn one setting down, try AA.

I would also add that with a 2070 S, I have to run this at 2560x1440 instead of true 4k, unless I accept 40fps. 16X AA and 4k gave me, hmm, 6fps in menus, which is obviously because this is a terrible port.
Last edited by RadicalDog; Dec 2, 2020 @ 5:54pm
NyanPasu Dec 6, 2020 @ 11:17pm 
hey man, i hope your doing good, i know it sucks but it isnt your Pc fault, the game is poorly optimized for PC , you can solve this problem by using FAR mode, trust me the game is really good, good gameplay + story totally worth your time, jjust google how to install far mode for pc and enjoy
Last edited by NyanPasu; Dec 6, 2020 @ 11:18pm
Peludismo Dec 7, 2020 @ 4:20am 
AA is the main resource hog. at x8 the game looks very good and removes all the jagged edges, but it kills many GPUs (and sadly, it is bugged the AA, you can see near the water weird flashes of light, when you turn it off completely this glitch goes off)

I have a rtx 2060 6gb and i can crank the AA to x8 only at 1080p, i get 60 fps really stables. But turning the resolution up it starts to fall apart. At 4k i don't even bother, with AA turned on i run out of VRAM and the game runs at 4 fps. With everything on low at 4k i get 40 fps with dips to 30.

AA asides, the game is just not well optimized, you need stupid amount of GPU power to brute force to run at high resolutions.
Grettir Dec 7, 2020 @ 10:48am 
My Pc is more lower that yours all - 750 ti/ AMD Phenom II x4 925/ 16 RAM and game on HDD, and on low sets, i play fine with 45-60 fps.
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