are you f****** kidding me?!

[Takingdomscosimog]

Are you really telling me because i walked out of the arena area where 9s is in the copied city after i kiled the boss, that i get a fkn game over?? "9s waited decades blah blah blah" and then i have to start from an hour back without warning?! WHAT THE F***!

[TheSeek]

Welcome to this game, where there 21 joke/bad endings, you just got one of those.

[Takingdomscosimog]

Originally posted by TheSeek:

Welcome to this game, where there 21 joke/bad endings, you just got one of those.

How many?! lol, all i wanted to do was explore the area before i went and progressed the quest, incase i wouldnt get a chance afterwards. I was that pi**ed that i literally just went straight to the boss fight again, but now im down like two levels, and all the items id looted. Are any of these endings actually meaningful btw?

[TheSeek]

Originally posted by Takingdomscosimog:

How many?

26 total endings, 5 main endings A to E(you will get A, B and C/D simply playing the game from start to "finish", and the other C/D and E by replaying the last section changing a final decision...ending E is the true ending, only after obtaining it the game is actually finished), and 21 joke/bad endings F to Z that you can get doing things you're not supposed to do, like leaving an area when you're not supposed to, going in the opposite direction of a destination if reaching the destination is an emergency, eating a certain fish, dying at specific parts of the game, or performing specific actions in specific places, etc. The only exception is ending Y, which is tied to a side quest which requires all weapons upgraded to the max level and will end in a lvl 99 boss fight, so it's end game content.

Originally posted by Takingdomscosimog:

all i wanted to do was explore the area before i went and progressed the quest, incase i wouldnt get a chance afterwards.

Iirc you can go back there later, but even if you can't, once you'll have 3 main endings you will unlock chapter select so you can go back to any point in the game to finish whatever you didn't, level up, etc. It's also how you'll get the last 2 main endings.

Originally posted by Takingdomscosimog:

Are any of these endings actually meaningful btw?

Other than ending Y, not really.

[Takingdomscosimog]

Originally posted by TheSeek:

Originally posted by Takingdomscosimog:

How many?

26 total endings, 5 main endings A to E(you will get A, B and C/D simply playing the game from start to "finish", and the other C/D and E by replaying the last section changing a final decision...ending E is the true ending, only after obtaining it the game is actually finished), and 21 joke/bad endings F to Z that you can get doing things you're not supposed to do, like leaving an area when you're not supposed to, going in the opposite direction of a destination if reaching the destination is an emergency, eating a certain fish, dying at specific parts of the game, or performing specific actions in specific places, etc. The only exception is ending Y, which is tied to a side quest which requires all weapons upgraded to the max level and will end in a lvl 99 boss fight, so it's end game content.

Originally posted by Takingdomscosimog:

all i wanted to do was explore the area before i went and progressed the quest, incase i wouldnt get a chance afterwards.

Iirc you can go back there later, but even if you can't, once you'll have 3 main endings you will unlock chapter select so you can go back to any point in the game to finish whatever you didn't, level up, etc. It's also how you'll get the last 2 main endings.

Originally posted by Takingdomscosimog:

Are any of these endings actually meaningful btw?

Other than ending Y, not really.

Yeah i just completed "Route A" then it said there are more story lines or something. Whats the deal between 2b and 9s, how come she starts crying over him, aren't they just robots? amazingly fun game and combats epic, but 9s is always getting in the way, and i always think im controlling him instead when it gets hectic. I wish there was an option to leave him at camp, or dismiss him or something iv set him to passive anyway so hes just kind of a hindrance. Either way this game is still really fun so I can live with it regardless lol.

[Dethlane]

Originally posted by Takingdomscosimog:

Whats the deal between 2b and 9s, how come she starts crying over him, aren't they just robots?

They're androids, not robots. They can feel, it's just "prohibited" by YoRHa. About the deal between 2B and 9S, 2B makes several hints among the route (the main is "It always... ends like this...", combined with her true attitude towards him), plus at the end of route C it will be pretty much spelled out (though it gets pretty obvious earlier as you go through the story)

[Takingdomscosimog]

Originally posted by Dethlane:

Originally posted by Takingdomscosimog:

Whats the deal between 2b and 9s, how come she starts crying over him, aren't they just robots?

They're androids, not robots. They can feel, it's just "prohibited" by YoRHa. About the deal between 2B and 9S, 2B makes several hints among the route (the main is "It always... ends like this...", combined with her true attitude towards him), plus at the end of route C it will be pretty much spelled out (though it gets pretty obvious earlier as you go through the story)

Interesting, but I still dont get why shes all torn up about killing him. I mean I can understand her not being happy about killing a fellow teammate, but shes only met him like 5 mins ago, n he's always getting on her nerves too yeah? Right up until before the last boss. I just found it a bit of an over-exaggerated reaction, cos I meanlike 90% of their dialogue was just objective instructions, and the rest was just passing comments and him annoying her at least thats how it seems. Yet at the end she acts like shes killing someone shes known all her life, i assumed she said "it alwasy ends this way" cos of the blackbox explosion that happened at the start. perhaps it's just me...

i guess i might learn more in the next play-through though iv just started, not particularly thrilled about playing as 9s though, he only has one weapon, and no delicious butt for me to stare at :(

[Dethlane]

Originally posted by Takingdomscosimog:

Interesting, but I still dont get why shes all torn up about killing him. I mean I can understand her not being happy about killing a fellow teammate, but shes only met him like 5 mins ago, n he's always getting on her nerves too yeah? Right up until before the last boss. I just found it a bit of an over-exaggerated reaction, cos I meanlike 90% of their dialogue was just objective instructions, and the rest was just passing comments and him annoying her at least thats how it seems. Yet at the end she acts like shes killing someone shes known all her life, i assumed she said "it alwasy ends this way" cos of the blackbox explosion that happened at the start. perhaps it's just me...

Umm, no, not only 5 mins ago. Even with this version of 9S (who, by his memory, met her only after the start mission) she spent a plenty of time (all their missions after this one, except for when they got temporarily separated). And (in this start mission) compare her commenting on deaths of her entire squad to her reaction on 9S getting critically hurt during boss fight. Just a teammate? Nah, not one bit. Especially her getting angry after meeting him in the bunker because he doesn't remember her. And this line develops as the route goes, climaxing in the ending. Pretty much same with 9S (only with 2B being just, like, his new team leader at the start). About 9S getting on 2B's nerves, it's more like she regularly reminds him of rules (following which he isn't fan of), but even then she starts giving him free passes on some as the game goes

[Takingdomscosimog]

Originally posted by Dethlane:

Originally posted by Takingdomscosimog:

Interesting, but I still dont get why shes all torn up about killing him. I mean I can understand her not being happy about killing a fellow teammate, but shes only met him like 5 mins ago, n he's always getting on her nerves too yeah? Right up until before the last boss. I just found it a bit of an over-exaggerated reaction, cos I meanlike 90% of their dialogue was just objective instructions, and the rest was just passing comments and him annoying her at least thats how it seems. Yet at the end she acts like shes killing someone shes known all her life, i assumed she said "it alwasy ends this way" cos of the blackbox explosion that happened at the start. perhaps it's just me...

Umm, no, not only 5 mins ago. Even with this version of 9S (who, by his memory, met her only after the start mission) she spent a plenty of time (all their missions after this one, except for when they got temporarily separated). And (in this start mission) compare her commenting on deaths of her entire squad to her reaction on 9S getting critically hurt during boss fight. Just a teammate? Nah, not one bit. Especially her getting angry after meeting him in the bunker because he doesn't remember her. And this line develops as the route goes, climaxing in the ending. Pretty much same with 9S (only with 2B being just, like, his new team leader at the start). About 9S getting on 2B's nerves, it's more like she regularly reminds him of rules (following which he isn't fan of), but even then she starts giving him free passes on some as the game goes

So I just completed route c and man do I have a new found love for 9s, he became interesting when he wasn't always overly cheerful and enthusiastic. Dunno I kind of prefer him as a lost hope psycho that wants vengeance. Now that iv played through 2 more times, the stuff your'e saying makes more sense than how I saw it. So does this mean hes in love with 2b? Or is their relationship supposed to be platonic like siblings rather a romantic one? I cant seem to decide, also is 2b aware that shes supposed to kill 9s? when she said "it always ends this way..." it kind of implies she isn't aware that Yorha wants her to kill 9s...

[TheSeek]

Originally posted by Takingdomscosimog:

also is 2b aware that shes supposed to kill 9s? when she said "it always ends this way..." it kind of implies she isn't aware that Yorha wants her to kill 9s...

Of course she is, she's an E model, it's her job, the B designation is just a disguise/cover up.
Anyway, If you haven't already, use chapter select to go back tot he last chapter right before the final choice(A2 or 9S for the final battle) and change your decision, you'll get the other ending C or D you didn't get yet, and then right after you'll be able to get ending E, which is the true ending.

[Takingdomscosimog]

Originally posted by TheSeek:

Originally posted by Takingdomscosimog:

also is 2b aware that shes supposed to kill 9s? when she said "it always ends this way..." it kind of implies she isn't aware that Yorha wants her to kill 9s...

Of course she is, she's an E model, it's her job, the B designation is just a disguise/cover up.
Anyway, If you haven't already, use chapter select to go back tot he last chapter right before the final choice(A2 or 9S for the final battle) and change your decision, you'll get the other ending C or D you didn't get yet, and then right after you'll be able to get ending E, which is the true ending.

So like if she knows, why would she continue to kill him since humanity is already dead anyway? Or does only 9s know that? I think i'v taken in too much information in too short of time, iv already started a new game+ as well so forgive me if i'm forgetting things or mixing stuff up. This game is unlike any other iv played im in awe right now...

[TheSeek]

There's no new game+ so I'm not sure what you're talking about, but did you get both endings C and D, and E?
2B kills 9S every time he discovers too much because that's her duty as an E model, it's what she's programmed to do. Also, it's hard to answer questions without spoiling information that is available outside of the game(novels and other stuff), which you should only read if you did get ending E.

[Takingdomscosimog]

Originally posted by TheSeek:

There's no new game+ so I'm not sure what you're talking about, but did you get both endings C and D, and E?
2B kills 9S every time he discovers too much because that's her duty as an E model, it's what she's programmed to do. Also, it's hard to answer questions without spoiling information that is available outside of the game(novels and other stuff), which you should only read if you did get ending E.

I mean I got route c done then clicked continue again, and now im back at the beggining as 2b with all my stuff carried over. If thats not a ng+ i dont know what is... I got the dlc with the game, and when i searched how to play it, it said dont play ending E. Cos apparently you lose all your saves or something, so im levelling up in another playthrough then ill do the dlc, then il do the other 2 endings. So if shes programmed does that mean she cannot have free will, which makes me wonder if they are really sentient or just programmed to act sentient.

[TheSeek]

Originally posted by Takingdomscosimog:

I mean I got route c done then clicked continue again, and now im back at the beggining as 2b with all my stuff carried over. If thats not a ng+ i dont know what is...

You're simply replaying the game without losing your previous level and equipment, but the enemies won't scale and nothing changes, there's no proper NG+ in this game.

Originally posted by Takingdomscosimog:

I got the dlc with the game, and when i searched how to play it, it said dont play ending E. Cos apparently you lose all your saves or something, so im levelling up in another playthrough then ill do the dlc, then il do the other 2 endings.

Losing your saves after ending E is a concious decision, you don't have to do it. You can safely get endings C, D and E, refuse to delete your data, keep playing via chapter select to do sidequests you might have missed and the DLC, or 100% the game finding everything there is to find, replay the final battle getting ending E, and then delete your saves.
There's no reason right now to start a new plathrough, mostly because you're starting a new one before actually finishing the game, so as I said earlier, I'd suggest to use chapter select to go the last chapter right before the final battle, change your decision, get the other ending C/D you didn't get yet, and then proceed to ending E, only then you'll have finished the game and the story.
A new playthrough to better get small nods and foreshadowing is hightly suggested, but only after you got both endings C and D, and E.

Originally posted by Takingdomscosimog:

So if shes programmed does that mean she cannot have free will, which makes me wonder if they are really sentient or just programmed to act sentient.

It's not that they can't have free will, it's that regardless of having free will, they're still androids created with specific goals in mind, to them their programming is like an instinct: the struggle between following orders/programming and following their own emotions deciding with their own head is one of the main themes of the game.