Why are non-player characters death's apparently permanent?

[Famix]

The intro, the entire squad 2b is with dies, and they don't appear to ever come back, but then 2B dies, destroying her "black box", and she comes back? Then there are a few boss fields littered with dead androids, and they can't come back, even with their black boxes intact?

Am I misunderstanding something here?

[lessthanoff]

The "resurrection" of YoRHa androids isn't something given to every member. For many YoRHa androids, when they die, their memories are not copied and they are not brought back. This is for two reasons: 1.) because they aren't considered valuable enough to reproduce and can be easily replaced; 2.) because, as you may have noticed from NPC dialogue and mail notifications, server space on the bunker is extremely limited, so storing potentially hundreds of memory files, each containing several years of detailed memories, is not something YoRHa can afford to do.

2B and 9S are exceptions. 9S is a rare and special type of YoRHa unit (who is one of the best, if not the best scanner unit, as his operator heavily implies it's thanks to his performance that YoRHa has decided to increase production of scanner models ), and 2B...well, she's a bit more complicated, and I can't really go into it spoiler-free, but you'll find out why she's a special case later on. Essentially she is an E-type model, who specializes in hunting down and terminating androids who desert YoRHa or find out the truth of humanity...or any other reason YoRHa might want someone dead. (in this case, she is following 9S around, waiting for orders to kill him and reset his memories/personality data, as she has been doing for several years)

[udav]

Origineel geplaatst door lessthanoff:

2.) because, as you may have noticed from NPC dialogue and mail notifications, server space on the bunker is extremely limited, so storing potentially hundreds of memory files, each containing several years of detailed memories, is not something YoRHa can afford to do.

What does 2b tells before she killed 9s?

You are preocupaed with some ideas and trying to substitute facts with it instead of using facts to get idea.

[lessthanoff]

"What does 2b tells before she killed 9s?"

What does she say before killing 9S? Sure I can do that.

2B: "But you'll lose you, the you who exists at this very moment." "9S..."

So how does that discredit what I said in any way, shape or form? I already said 2B and 9S are both exceptions to this in my first post because of what they are, compared to the average YoRHa soldier.

"You are preocupaed with some ideas and trying to substitute facts with it instead of using facts to get idea."

...Are you going to explain why you think this? Or are you just going to continue your "camping out in the forums of a game I obviously don't like while flailing aimlessly at a story I don't really understand because I have nothing better to do" adventure? It didn't seem to go very well for you last time though, since you never responded to anything I had written about androids/machines wanting to be human-like and valuing human-like traits.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/524220/discussions/0/1841314700699841149/?ctp=2

Let's work through this together:

1.) It is a fact that, for many YoRHa androids, when they die during side quests and in the main quest, they do not come back; they stay dead (the squad at the beginning of the game, including 11B, A2's entire squad , the YoRHa betrayer androids, etc).

2.) It is a fact that, for the YoRHa androids who are important/essential enough to "come back," they need to upload their data to the bunker's server, which makes a copy of all their memories to be downloaded into a new body should the original version of them die.

3.) It is a fact that server space on the bunker is extremely limited, because YoRHa androids make this known to the player (such as the mail notification you get, in which YoRHa androids are encouraged to stop uploading non-essential data to the server, since it is reaching maximum capacity).


I think the inference is pretty easy. YoRHa picks and chooses who is important and worthy enough to replicate, and those who can be easily replaced are discarded. Looking at what happened to A2 and her squad shows this to be true, after all. They were sent on a suicide run for the sole purpose of seeing which of them had worthy enough traits to pass on to the newer YoRHa models, and which ones had traits that needed to be discarded. And when they died, they were intentionally not brought back, because they were considered obsolete -- to the extent that the only one who survived, A2, is marked for death .

[Juota]

TL;DR 2B is considered worthy because she's the one who knows 9S "long enough" to notice if 9S reached "that point"

You'll know if You complete the game

[Famix]

Which playthrough of the game?

[Juota]

Origineel geplaatst door Famix:

Which playthrough of the game?

Whichever, because it's revealed along the way, but D is preferable since You asked about 2B and D route is essentialy the connection between 2B and 9S
C route is for A2 alone

[Famix]

So, that's the fourth playthrough? Do I need to do anything specific to get these routes?

[lessthanoff]

Origineel geplaatst door Famix:

So, that's the fourth playthrough? Do I need to do anything specific to get these routes?

It works like this: Routes A and B are the first half of the game, told from 2B's (A) and 9S' (B) perspectives.

Once you beat both, Route C will unlock, which is the second half of the game, told from multiple perspectives. This is the last "route" you have to play.

Play Route C all the way to the ending, where you will have a choice between endings C or D.

Once you get one or the other, the game will end, but you will have unlocked chapter select.

Go into chapter select after the credits, and choose the chapter right before the choice between the two endings. Choose the ending you didn't choose initially.

This will unlock the true and final ending E.

[Psyntifik]

Origineel geplaatst door lessthanoff:

Go into chapter select after the credits, and choose the chapter right before the choice between the two endings. Choose the ending you didn't choose initially

Chapter 17 - 09 "A2 and 9S", just to be specific.