Why is this game so sexualized with art and merchandise?

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

When I first looked at this game, most search results show sexy PS4 covers, body pillows, and booty mouse pads (why?!). But looking at the game itself the fanservice is barely there. I know the initial impression the community game me turned me off, (kinda like Soul Caliber, I might buy 6 though).

I plan on getting this on PS4 pro ( 1. My current computer can't run it. 2. The port sounds bad.) But I'm curious to hear how this game got such a reputation for fanservice, and do you think it turned off people who would have loved it.

[curry124242]

imagination and doujin

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Originally posted by curry124242:

imagination and doujin

I've seen most sexy fan art and doujin for I think just about all my favorite series. *thousand yard stare after stumblig across P4 Yu x Samael pics and doujin* I just found it interesting that the sexy parts are more prominent in this and overshadow the few cute pics I've seen.

[myhr2]

This is really not that specific to Nier : Automata specifically, but has more to do with the japanese culture. Having a somewhat tame product that leads to the creation of over-the-top merchandise is common in Japan. I'll could try and analyse why at length and probably sound pretentious while doing it, so I'll just say that my personal opinion is that they have a very strict society that leads to amazing innovations and creations, but this also builds pressure that inevitably leads to over-the-top innovations and creations.

Yes, I think it turned some people off...but that's why you should always separate a product to its community. Can it be nice to be part of a community, have people to talk to and that share your interests? Sure. But be careful to not use it as an echo chamber, or at least be conscious of it, and stay respectful to criticism (at least that's what I'm trying to do, not telling it's always easy or that I'm always successful, sadly)

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Originally posted by myhr2:

This is really not that specific to Nier : Automata specifically, but has more to do with the japanese culture. Having a somewhat tame product that leads to the creation of over-the-top merchandise is common in Japan. I'll could try and analyse why at length and probably sound pretentious while doing it, so I'll just say that my personal opinion is that they have a very strict society that leads to amazing innovations and creations, but this also builds pressure that inevitably leads to over-the-top innovations and creations.

Yes, I think it turned some people off...but that's why you should always separate a product to its community. Can it be nice to be part of a community, have people to talk to and that share your interests? Sure. But be careful to not use it as an echo chamber, or at least be conscious of it, and stay respectful to criticism (at least that's what I'm trying to do, not telling it's always easy or that I'm always successful, sadly)

I do notice that in most Japanese things I watch/read/play. And I mostly stick to communities to share experiences, and very rarely check out the rule 34 half of a random.

Japan can pull it off half the time with fanservice done right, but then you get characters like Ivy from Soul Caliber. Most characters are dressed reasonably, and then in the recent E3 they show her and its like "Why can she dress like sensible person? The ninja lady makes more sense than you!"

[shoopy]

See internet Rule 34 and Rule 35

[Meneluma]

A.k.a. why you can't recommend this game to most people who haven't heard of it prior(the more casual space of irl friends) no matter what you say about the game itself, the awards it won, the review scores and the GOTY nominations, the amount of people who get put off by the character design in the trailer is big enough to the point where I gave up trying.

[synthohol]

I don't think Nier:Automata's official merchandising by Square Enix is overly sexualized. If they joined up with some, erm... toy manufacturer or endorsed all the third-party stuff found on Amazon or Ebay, then I'd agree. Same applies to official artwork released and fanart created all over the internet: Someone's original design versus more or less tasteful interpretation of it.

Originally posted by Wishmaker_Latias:

A.k.a. why you can't recommend this game to most people who haven't heard of it prior(the more casual space of irl friends) no matter what you say about the game itself, the awards it won, the review scores and the GOTY nominations, the amount of people who get put off by the character design in the trailer is big enough to the point where I gave up trying.

That sums it up, unfortunately. The sad part is that increasing numbers of people playing games only have eyes for high-res textures and fluid animations (motion capture ftw).

I enjoyed that Platinum Games designed Nier:Automata's characters the way they did, they constantly balanced on the line but never crossed it, neither with 9S, nor with 2B and A2. Compared with one of their other highly-praised games, Bayonetta, in which they crossed my personal line for sexualization in video games, Nier:Automata is pretty tame in these terms. Apart from this, Nier:Automata has all the rights to claim its nominations, except for the fact that it is horribly programmed. THIS is a point one should be concerned about because it hinders one from actually trying out the game and come to their own conclusion on its content.

I had another paragraph comparing Nier:Automata to another, major game released in 2017 coming in but unfortunately I lost my track halfway thorugh it, maybe I will continue later.

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Hmm, I guess to me there's a kind of weird dissonance with the official and what's not. My personal taste is that I should be able to explain the game and show it to someone I know without having to say "I swear its not porn!"

I mean for example my Mom gets Bayonetta's design, but not Ivy Valentine. I find it kind of weird that the ps4 butt decals are higher up the list on Amazon than the game. I like sexy stuff, just not when it eclipses the game or character.

[reer]

butts are nice

[Exarch_Alpha]

Lol this is 2018, ever checked Street Fighter and Soul Calibur? This game is innocent compared to that.

As for porn, people did that in whole history, the internet just made it easier to see. So don´t want to see porn, move on.

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Originally posted by Exarch_Alpha:

Lol this is 2018, ever checked Street Fighter and Soul Calibur? This game is innocent compared to that.

As for porn, people did that in whole history, the internet just made it easier to see. So don´t want to see porn, move on.

I don't mind porn.
I'm not sure what you mean by SF; I'm assuming Cammy? I'm used to her outfit, she's had it since her debut so I'm used to it. Soul Caliber I'm assuming Ivy is the one sticks out.

I don't mind the rule 34 for the game, I just wondered why in any search result the unofficial fan stuff shows up higher than the game or official items. Heck, where do you even buy the official stuff, cause I'd actually love to support the series.

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Originally posted by nph CNN is Fake News:

https://cosplayheaven.tumblr.com/post/171398416848/android-2b-nier-automata-by-katyuska-moonfox

That is really good cosplay. Don't get me wrong I love sexy girls, but it just stuck out as much more prevalent than any (for lack of a better word) safe art. Is it so wrong that is want a laptop worthy picture of 2B and 9S that doesn't have cameltoe?

[Tebaldi]

Originally posted by Grima The Fell Dragon:

I plan on getting this on PS4 pro ( 1. My current computer can't run it. 2. The port sounds bad.) But I'm curious to hear how this game got such a reputation for fanservice, and do you think it turned off people who would have loved it.

No, your PC sounds bad. In my PC, it runs smoothly... Although I'd say that the best experience would be in PS4 Pro, since it's originally designed to play there, I don't have money to test it out.

[Eze]

Originally posted by curry124242:

imagination and doujin

Yoko Taro's.

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Originally posted by Tebaldi:

Originally posted by Grima The Fell Dragon:

I plan on getting this on PS4 pro ( 1. My current computer can't run it. 2. The port sounds bad.) But I'm curious to hear how this game got such a reputation for fanservice, and do you think it turned off people who would have loved it.

No, your PC sounds bad. In my PC, it runs smoothly... Although I'd say that the best experience would be in PS4 Pro, since it's originally designed to play there, I don't have money to test it out.

Mines Intel HD Graphics, so I originally got this for work. I do plan on upgrading soon.