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loganjamesalex 2017 年 3 月 23 日 上午 4:27
Eve battle too hard stuck
I just got to Eve battle and I used up all 10 small healing and 10 medium healing now i am stuck in the pit with no way to beat him without any heals what do i do I am level 15
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Guidsmaster 2017 年 8 月 15 日 上午 6:34 
im not sure if reloading your save file might take you back outside the pit, even though there's a "checkpoint" right at the fight. You don't need to grind at all. If you're playing on hard, just make sure to buy plenty of melee and ranged defense items, as well as lots of healing. Having 20-40 of each should be ok for all situations
If reloading doesn't work to get you back outside, you're gonna have to do the fight more or less untouched. With a few attempts and good dodging it should be doable. As long as you understand how his 2 shields work (1 vs ranged, the other vs melee, though ive seen the ranged one blow up in melee, maybe because of shockwave chip), you'll get there.

As a side note, you can farm exp up and item up chips at the amusement park, on the rollercoaster (or all around if you dont mind attacking friendlies). This also has the benefit that later on, each ride is worth a lot of exp. In the early game it wasn't much xp, but when I tried towards the end-game, I was getting nearly a level per ride, and quickly ended up level 90 just from farming a few item drop chips.
Exarch_Alpha 2017 年 8 月 15 日 上午 6:46 
引用自 Чжао Yevheniya
Grinding is boring though. This game is boring.

Then all RPGs are boring to you because all rely on side quests and killing mobs to level up. That includes everything from your precious Skyrim to EVERY japanese RPG, and even to the Witcher.

Idiotic post, honestly buddy. Delete it.

For OP:

1- hoard + XP chips and try to get them to level 6
2- Always bring medium healing (more than 30) but also + melee and ranged attack AND defense.
3- If you don´t care about abusing the system, put the network on and let revived androids do the work. FFS I once got one so good the last Adam fight didn´t last even 3 minutes. It almost insta-shotted him.
最后由 Exarch_Alpha 编辑于; 2017 年 8 月 15 日 上午 6:49
KinGG 2017 年 8 月 15 日 上午 8:14 
OP already cleared this fight but you were so desperate to defend your ass-upskirt game that I don't think you noticed.

There's a difference between RPGs that mix up the character progression or offer a plethora of options, and games that insist you spin the wheels. Most "grinding" is mindless, you see it doesn't require any kind of strategic solution other than the application of patience. That's especially the case in this game where there are three enemy types (short robot, tall robot, and floating robot) and three attack types (light melee, heavy melee, and shooting). Games like Zelda mix it up by offering you puzzles and unique enemy types, requiring you to think and re-evaluate your approach to every new obstacle. Games like Dark Souls mix it up by having an interesting and dynamic combat system. Many successful JRPGs have tried not to commute the gameplay to pointless grinding but that doesn't seem to be the case with Nier.

I only wanted to know if people unironically thought Route B added a lot of content to the game or if grinding on weak, boring mobs for 20 levels is good fun. If that's the case, then yeah I have to say people probably aren't playing this game for the game, if you know what I mean.

@Guidsmaster: I honestly don't know what good healing items are. If every attack kills you in one hit then it's moot. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Tahl 2017 年 8 月 15 日 上午 10:27 
This games not rpg. Quit crying and learn to play.

Im lvl 80+ and had to grind only the last 4 levels. ...and that was just in the pit for the DLC thing. Not any part of the story.

Quit blaming your failures on everything else.
Dethlane 2017 年 8 月 15 日 上午 10:34 
引用自 Чжао Yevheniya
your ass-upskirt game
Funny how ALL the haters of this game bring that up. Probably because that's why they bought it in the first place.
I only wanted to know if people unironically thought Route B added a lot of content to the game or if grinding on weak, boring mobs for 20 levels is good fun
Route B actually adds a plenty of side quests, as well as different perspective on the main questline. And nobody makes you grind anything. If you do most of the quests you stay ahead of your enemies by several levels (except for some of shared sidequests in the Route A).
If every attack kills you in one hit then it's moot
Turn off Very Hard difficulty. Problem solved.
KinGG 2017 年 8 月 15 日 下午 3:15 
It's a bad game that isn't fun to play. How is that "my failure?"

The upskirt thing is an observation about how a game doesn't need to be good in order to be considered good. Just add some upskirts and the problem is solved.
Tahl 2017 年 8 月 15 日 下午 4:08 
引用自 Чжао Yevheniya
It's a bad game that isn't fun to play. How is that "my failure?"

The upskirt thing is an observation about how a game doesn't need to be good in order to be considered good. Just add some upskirts and the problem is solved.

Nice conflation. The topic was not whether or not its fun to play. Sorry you dont enjoy it but even if I dont see the golden age god of games some people do, its a great game even still.
You whining like a child screams low effort with high expectations. Another spoon fed casual come to cry for attention on the forums.
This game is far from hard at all and challenge level is optional. Your complaint regarding that is entirely invalid.

The upskirt thing is a petty attempt to validate your angst.
Even the creator was open about his motives for having fem leads with revealing clothes.
If you have done your research however, you would have found that his previous game had an exclusively male lead.
Though it also contained skant clothing on female characters careful examination of that content compared to the overall game would strongly suggest that was far from the selling point.

Alos, if T&A is what people want there are better games for it. Ones with customization of character and clothing. F2P games. Multiplayer and singleplayer ones.

The point you seem to be trying to ham fist into reality is feeble and childish.
最后由 Tahl 编辑于; 2017 年 8 月 15 日 下午 4:09
Exarch_Alpha 2017 年 8 月 15 日 下午 4:41 
引用自 Чжао Yevheniya
It's a bad game that isn't fun to play. How is that "my failure?"

The upskirt thing is an observation about how a game doesn't need to be good in order to be considered good. Just add some upskirts and the problem is solved.

Dude the point is, your bad reasons exists in way too many games. FFS, tell us what do you think a good game is.

BTW even I, who really like this game, admit it has its flaws, but those are

1- The extremelly repetitive flight scenes with only 3 enemy types
2- Hilarious faces of NPCs with Playstation 1 level of animation
3- Making people learn from the Internet obscure moves to reach secrets and weapons.
4- The android recovery system is broken as ♥♥♥♥ and makes battles versus some bosses a joke, not to mention bosses don´t level properly.

The combat versus standard enemies is grindy? Yes. But there are MUCH worse cases and at least here fights are over in a matter of seconds. I didn´t play Skyrim, because I´ve played Oblivion and Morrowind and honestly, I didn´t even bother to finish Morrowind. Cliff racers, lelz. ♥♥♥♥ them.
Guidsmaster 2017 年 8 月 15 日 下午 6:30 
Indeed healing items won't work if you're one-shotted, but if you maintain defense buffs, attacks will do half damage. If even that much is still a one-shot, just make sure to equip some max hp and defense chips, and those combined will almost certainly make any one attack surviveable. As long as you can survive any one hit, it changes the fight from having to be "perfect" to being able to make as many mistakes as you can maintain with items.

Another option is to embrace the one-shottedness and just go full dps chips. If you kill it faster, you'll have to dodge stuff for less time.

All this is assuming your save file lets you reload outside of the pit, or that you have items available.

Otherwise, just lower the difficulty for that fight.

As a side note, it may be safer to use your best chip sets only for boss fights since you can almost always safely retrieve your items at the start of the fight, whereas it's easy to die consecutively and lose your chips out in the open.
最后由 Guidsmaster 编辑于; 2017 年 8 月 15 日 下午 6:31
Tahl 2017 年 8 月 15 日 下午 6:45 
PS: Those one shots may be counters caused by your attacks. JUST a possbility but this could also be a result of not paying attention.
If Im remembering correctly those particular bosses have counter attacks to specific offensive moves.
Exarch_Alpha 2017 年 8 月 15 日 下午 7:36 
Or not. In Hard even Engels of the prologue can one shot you.

Honestly, Hard is indeed Hard. It requires smart use of items and having all 3 pods with pod switching, and using programs all the time. Using Gatling laser only will be... frustrating. The Melee shield blocks even attacks from Adam and Eve and is great to slash them a good bit.
geaisbleu200 2023 年 11 月 11 日 下午 9:03 
Guys yall missed the point. Its doing the fight without heals, without any upgrade chips (as you lose on death and if you cant make it back to the corpse on time you lose them forever), underleveled (under level 30) and on normal or even worse hard or very hard all while not being able to see bc of the off camera angle and thick smoke. I would honestly prefer to be fighting Melania from Elden Ring. That said, all other bosses were very easy to fight for me, it might be a thing of circumstances where I ran out of heals and money at the end. Eve seems to be at a different level: a boss so aggressive with 2-3 lives and attacks that do 10x the damage you do to it is going to be difficult (again, considering you lost all your upgrades and are underleveled you are just scratching is back while fighting for your life to not get hit during a 10 min fight sequence where you are playing half blind).
Reaper 2023 年 11 月 12 日 上午 7:23 
Fuse the auto healing chip with the same level. Keep doing that so it's 2HP/sec instead of .7HP/sec. If you using a controller, change your controls around.

My gamepad controls:
LT/2 - heavy attack
RT/2 - light attack
R3 - evade

Note:
I beat it on normal difficulty @ Lv. ~22 and it was very fast. What made a huge difference was changing my control.
最后由 Reaper 编辑于; 2023 年 11 月 12 日 上午 7:25
Chillin 2024 年 9 月 8 日 下午 3:21 
is this the fight where you cant see ♥♥♥♥ cuz of some dust storm? and half way thorugh the fight he goes to an elivated platform that you have to jump up floating moving platforms to fight him again? if so im stuck on this fight also and im level 25.
rparham685 2024 年 10 月 6 日 下午 7:19 
Sorry if I necro this, but would we even be able to change difficulty during gameplay?
Thanks, and apologies, in advance. o7
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