What's the point in the counter chip when dodge is so much easier

[bob]

Anyone noes?

[ウィッチ（？）]

Depends on how you like to do in combat. Dodge everything or do extra damage with Counter move.

[Guidsmaster]

Can you explain how the counter chip works please?

I think the point of the thread is that you can already counter by dodging, so what's the point of the counter chip.

[Aletheia]

Originally posted by Guidsmaster:

Can you explain how the counter chip works please?

I think the point of the thread is that you can already counter by dodging, so what's the point of the counter chip.

i'm pretty sure you do a counter when you attack at the same time as the enemy. Then you add extra damage to this attack.

[Zamus]

Originally posted by Aletheia:

i'm pretty sure you do a counter when you attack at the same time as the enemy. Then you add extra damage to this attack.

Counters are done by properly timed dodges, 2B does a special animation where she kinda disapears, this is a timed dodge then you just follow with light/heavy/pod attack, pretty sure this chip just increases this counter attack damage.

[Aletheia]

Originally posted by Zamus:

Originally posted by Aletheia:

i'm pretty sure you do a counter when you attack at the same time as the enemy. Then you add extra damage to this attack.

Counters are done by properly timed dodges, 2B does a special animation where she kinda disapears, this is a timed dodge then you just follow with light/heavy/pod attack, pretty sure this chip just increases this counter attack damage.

Actually, I did a weird animation the last time I played, with the counter chip equiped. 2B stopped the enemy weapon and the guy took a huge hit. So I don't know.


Edit : https://www.reddit.com/r/nier/comments/5y7t7q/counter_chip/

[Antitype]

Originally posted by Aletheia:

Originally posted by Guidsmaster:

Can you explain how the counter chip works please?

I think the point of the thread is that you can already counter by dodging, so what's the point of the counter chip.

i'm pretty sure you do a counter when you attack at the same time as the enemy. Then you add extra damage to this attack.

I've been a bit scared to try this, enemies hit like trucks in hard and it's easier to counter atk with the dodge iframes. Is there some iframes with pure counter ?
edit: reading the reddit link, it's apparently super precise timing, so no iframes I guess.

[Aletheia]

Originally posted by Antitype:

Originally posted by Aletheia:

i'm pretty sure you do a counter when you attack at the same time as the enemy. Then you add extra damage to this attack.

I've been a bit scared to try this, enemies hit like trucks in hard and it's easier to counter atk with the dodge iframes. Is there some iframes with pure counter ?

2B will turn greyish like for the perfect evade, so yeah there's iframe. You block the incoming attack to deal extra damage. From what I've read, it's even more powerful than the counter-attack from a perfect evade.

The method to do a counter is to have the counter chip equiped and move the analog stick towards your enemy while he's attacking. It's actually the same timing than for a perfect evade, but you use the stick instead of the right trigger.

[Antitype]

Originally posted by Aletheia:

Originally posted by Antitype:

I've been a bit scared to try this, enemies hit like trucks in hard and it's easier to counter atk with the dodge iframes. Is there some iframes with pure counter ?

2B will turn greyish like for the perfect evade, so yeah there's iframe. You block the incoming attack to deal extra damage. From what I've read, it's even more powerful than the counter-attack from a perfect evade.

The method to do a counter is to have the counter chip equiped and move the analog stick towards your enemy while he's attacking. It's actually the same timing than for a perfect evade, but you use the stick instead of the right trigger.

Should be manageable then I have no issue doing perfect dodges.

[Aletheia]

Originally posted by Antitype:

Originally posted by Aletheia:

2B will turn greyish like for the perfect evade, so yeah there's iframe. You block the incoming attack to deal extra damage. From what I've read, it's even more powerful than the counter-attack from a perfect evade.

The method to do a counter is to have the counter chip equiped and move the analog stick towards your enemy while he's attacking. It's actually the same timing than for a perfect evade, but you use the stick instead of the right trigger.

Should be manageable then I have no issue doing perfect dodges.

Be sure to save before trying haha. Also I think the best way to try is with the little machines from the Ruined City.

[Sygmaelle]

you can ... use both i guess