Soft-Point vs. Polymere Munitions

[RudiRampage]

I dont really understand whats the advantage of soft-point amunition.

For me at least I constantly get better shots with polymere tip and cant seem to make soft-point work. I usually go for spine or lung shots with the highest allowed calibre for full integrity.

Can someone explain to me whats the advantage of using one or the other?

[RamMack]

Sounds like to me you have already explained it to yourself. Use what works best.

Happy Hunting

[RudiRampage]

But whats the point in having expansion and penetration stats for rounds, when higher penetration is always better? I struggle to see what expansion effects exactly

[RamMack]

Originally posted by RudiRampage:

But whats the point in having expansion and penetration stats for rounds, when higher penetration is always better? I struggle to see what expansion effects exactly

Well in real life, Poly points (hollow point /w poly insert) these should expand more, penetrate less.
Soft point should mushroom, and penetrate more. They seem to do the opposite in game.

There are some things that you have to ignore, and just realise it is a game, and learn how they coded it by playing, and doing what works.

[VonStreed]

Originally posted by RamMack:

Originally posted by RudiRampage:

But whats the point in having expansion and penetration stats for rounds, when higher penetration is always better? I struggle to see what expansion effects exactly

Well in real life, Poly points (hollow point /w poly insert) these should expand more, penetrate less.
Soft point should mushroom, and penetrate more. They seem to do the opposite in game.

There are some things that you have to ignore, and just realise it is a game, and learn how they coded it by playing, and doing what works.

Maybe I am way off, but don't poly tips have better aerodynamics and thus travel faster and straighter? You would think a higher velocity would mean better penetration. As far as expansion goes, i thought poly tips had more uniform expansion, not more overall expansion.

To the OP, I haven't comfirmed this, but rl debate aside, it seems like the greater expantion of soft tip leads to a higher blled rate since it rips more flesh. Also, if you land a round close to an organ it seems like the added expansion will send shrapnel into it. So if you aren't a great shot then you might want to go that route so you don't wind up chasing an animal for a mile or two. If you are accurate though, the deeper penetration menas you will often hit multiple organs when broadsiding an animal. Easier to get those double lung shots or heart shots when not infront of the animal.

[RamMack]

Originally posted by VonStreed:

Originally posted by RamMack:

Well in real life, Poly points (hollow point /w poly insert) these should expand more, penetrate less.
Soft point should mushroom, and penetrate more. They seem to do the opposite in game.

There are some things that you have to ignore, and just realise it is a game, and learn how they coded it by playing, and doing what works.

Maybe I am way off, but don't poly tips have better aerodynamics and thus travel faster and straighter? You would think a higher velocity would mean better penetration. As far as expansion goes, i thought poly tips had more uniform expansion, not more overall expansion.

To the OP, I haven't comfirmed this, but rl debate aside, it seems like the greater expantion of soft tip leads to a higher blled rate since it rips more flesh. Also, if you land a round close to an organ it seems like the added expansion will send shrapnel into it. So if you aren't a great shot then you might want to go that route so you don't wind up chasing an animal for a mile or two. If you are accurate though, the deeper penetration menas you will often hit multiple organs when broadsiding an animal. Easier to get those double lung shots or heart shots when not infront of the animal.

Poly tips do have better aero stats, so yes it will hit harder, but it is still a hollow point with a poly insert.
In RL everybody has there preference, but in game poly tips definatly work better.

[Quirt]

I've been using soft points for the past couple months. I switched to the balistic tips for this latest expansion. I have yet to shoot an animal that required more than one shot. even the non-DRT's only run a short distance then drop. As an example, I just dropped a gold moose at 80yds, head on, thru the heart, 7mm. The bullets work much better by far. Also look at it this way, they wouldnt cost more if they weren't better. :-)

[laserlight]

Originally posted by RudiRampage:

But whats the point in having expansion and penetration stats for rounds, when higher penetration is always better? I struggle to see what expansion effects exactly

I look at expansion as raw blunt damage. If you hit a vital or non-vital with a high expansion round, chances are you will drop a moose or a bear instantly. So, it's basically a gamble. Do you want to chance massive blunt damage or use high penetration rounds for extra chances to potentially hit vitals more often. The trade off is when you hit flesh wounds with penetration rounds you do little overall damage to the animal. If you hit an animal with several high expansion rounds you can kill it with only flesh wounds.

EDIT: I should probably state that I'm currently using high expansion rounds in my .357 and 7mm, and using high penetration rounds in my 30-30. 30-30 is my deer gun, 7mm is my large game gun and .357 is either for defensive shots or close range kills on small game or deers.

EDIT2: I switched my 7mm to using penetration rounds and I've had better results at range now.

[moparrtman6970]

Irl I used to shoot soft points when I first started hunting white tailed deer. I lost a lot of deer using that ammo. When I changed over to ballistic tips I watch the deer drop in the their tracks almost every time. It was a significant difference using ballistic tip and I would never use soft points again. To me, the game has soft point/poly tips shooting exactly like they should be.

[WildHunt]

soft point bullet in this game is for those who like to do back spine shot. hollow point is for organ shot because of the bullet penetration

[kaleun76]

Originally posted by MidgetStallion:

soft point bullet in this game is for those who like to do back spine shot. hollow point is for organ shot because of the bullet penetration

Great tip right there!

[pingburner]

I have idea how explain it. Mey be soft-point type have thin half-shell jacked. Simultaneously hollow-point munitions have thick jacked. High price of hollow-point munitions does not contradict this.

[Nite69]

I use poly ammo for everything, penetration is more important then expansion cause several of the big animals have thick skin

then if you want keep the score up just use the correct caliber rifle, .243 for small game, and .338 or .470 for large game

[cbrrrman]

poly tip has slightly more penetration...
comes in handy when ya tackle those bigger animals.

purdy much all I'll use, in every gun I can in this game.
They make a difference... but one stil needs to place an accurate shot to the animal's vital areas.
I generally attempt spine and heart shots... occasionally a brain shot, lung(s) if it has to be.
I've had purdy good success making those work.

in my experience with this game the poly tipped ammo is well worth their added cost.
They can seem pricey when ya first start out but after ya play for awhile and harvest as much as ya can... making millions in game money isn't too difficult. Shoot for instant kills !

[Paleo Jake]

I think softpoint causes more damage to the animal, it says the in the game's ammo store. If true, that would mean softpoint is for a faster kill, and polymer tip is for precision shots.
(if true, haven't tested it)

[VonStreed]

Originally posted by Paleo Jake:

I think softpoint causes more damage to the animal, it says the in the game's ammo store. If true, that would mean softpoint is for a faster kill, and polymer tip is for precision shots.
(if true, haven't tested it)

Not if you could have had a double lung shot with polymer because of the added penetration but you chose softs and only hit one lung.

Also....

holy necro, Batman!