Shotgun integrity, mostly about buckshot. (Repost)

[OhshiAppledrink]

Since someone suggested I post this in bug reports, I'll do that now.

This is gonna be a little bit random and some of you might know this, but after playing with the shotguns for a good long while, I have figured out what is causing the integrity of my shots to decrease or increase while using buckshot. Its all based on how many pellets actually hit the critter. Now this is kind of a bad way to score for the shotgun because it really leaves it all up to RNG because sometimes you'll hit them with 11 or lower which will give you 100% integrity or you hit them with 13 or higher which will decrease your integrity score. This forces you to try to not hit center mass so you won't land as many pellets.... which will probably cost you the quick kill!

Due to this fact, 12g buckshot is practically useless with the 20g slug being the overall better option for perfect harvests. The 20g buckshot also suffers from the integrity issue. Because of this I really think they need to change the scoring for buckshot. 20g and 12g.

On the other hand, birdshot and slugs often perform exactly how they need to (ON THE AFRICA DLC!!!) and I don't really ever have issues with those ammo types against the (SAVANNAH) animals I'm suppose to use them on other than user error, except for when the slugs decide to fly off in some odd direction instead of where I was pointing which I have encountered at the shooting range.

These are examples of 20g on springbuk.

Perfect Harvest - 11 pellets hit
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/956343422236276314/D82498EAC6882E683ED94E63ACEAD584AD768C5D/

Not Quite - 13 pellets hit
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/956343422236276642/40EB2598B47C6A1343DE34C1C94354609EF27809/

Jackal with perfect. I didn't count pellets at the time I took this picture, but judging by how short the scroll bar is, I'm assuming it is under 12.
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/963097554827951571/5550B24C630F17D40419EE77ED1C5F651B9238CF/

Jackal with lots of hits.
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/963097554827806492/41C66C8834312BDB738FA344E28B8E0C0DFF7C5C/

Even more frustrating is trying to get a perfect on deer in the non-dlc deer using the buckshot.
No quick kill due to low penetration, but only hit with 6 pellets so 100% integrity. Notice the distance compared to the perfect harvest on the springbuk. I'm closer, but I can't penetrate... Roe deer have body armor!

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/963097554839780873/CA2210C1666C85B99D1D4F5DFB71CCC6938D8F4C/

This time even CLOSER against a fallow and no penetration to touch organs, but uh oh too many pellets.
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/957467519330472469/ABA7A998AE7841ED9330B76FAB9F1F036CC57CFB/

Here is an example with bird shot. (Note: You have to be extremely close for birdshot to penetrate in my experience and the only way I got this harvest was due to the animal glitching out.)

Perfect with 12g birdshot
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/956343422241096279/E051AC3100E0325C8A3C28D35F534C297FAED234/

Here is another ODD situation. Using class 2 ammo type, 20g slugs, against a class 2 deer, but only getting 40% integrity.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/963097554832833845/33D7F358AD0815E8CE02A8BA1D6877E1B821B6E5/

In conclusion, shotguns on the savannah seem to work pretty alright except for buckshot. The vanilla reserves on the other hand have serious issues that hinder shotguns. The rng buckshot and the 40% class 2 slug on a class 2 animal... Also the fact that 12g buckshot is not really viable sort of forces players into having to buy the shotgun dlc for the 20g slugs as a side note.
So please, if anyone knows how to effectively get those perfect harvests with buckshot everytime please let us know HOW or if there is a dev out there who is reading this please consider reworking scoring for buckshot and the oddness of the vanilla reserves.

[[PTN] Moffegreven]

I dont now about the savannah, but i've all of a sudden started to loose integrity with buckshot on whitetail. Normally i can blast two shells and have 100% now one shell and 0% integrity..

[OhshiAppledrink]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/952966356909191465/F83EFC64FB9428765B0517E9B1FF70921B2B5B99/
20g buckshot which is class 1 ammo used against a class 1 deer and getting 0% integrity

[OhshiAppledrink]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/952966356914110128/855A05D7EC74934B09E4A16BD4D7640CD758BF67/
20g buckshot against coyote which is another class 1, 0% integrity

[No43_Moggy]

I thought this had been addressed in a patch earlier this year. I was on Layton, shot a female white tail with a 20 gauge buckshot shell using the new semi auto and I received 40% integrity. So I tried it again but shooting a male white tail using a 20 gauge buckshot shell and again I received 40% integrity.
Hopefully the devs can address this.

[Luke]

I gave up on buckshot after my third try. Got within 20 yards of a deer and hit him perfectly in the neck, blasted thing ran all over the place and gave me 0% quick kill, and 0% Integrity, not exactly realistic. I still use a shotgun in real life but in this game I switched to bow hunting up close.